App Transfer Portal 2025 - OUT

[AppWyo]

To be fair, Satterfield dominated in a weak Sun Belt. Those App teams lifted the Sun Belt and the conference got better as a result. I’m not sold on him being as successful in today’s Sun Belt.

We don't know that for sure but I can see why you would take that stance. Scott recruited and developed much better though. We can say the SBC was easier but he put way more players into the NFL if you count those he brought in to App than Clark did.

I can pretty much guarantee Jerry Moore would not have been. We would have maybe won one national title but certainly not the others. Armanti would have had a massive offer, along with several others.

I don't think this new era means we should lower our standard of making a bowl and winning 8 games but we definitely won't win 11+ games 3 or 4 years in a row until something is done in terms of legislation.

I get why many players want to stay in college forever because they are more free than NFL players and they know their chances of making it are much less.

We have talked about it before that if schools would refuse to do NIL and would not keep players for waiver years to prevent this back log that is encouraging players to transfer then most issues would go away. The reality is too many are willing to throw away money just to win rather than band together and spend more responsibly.

What schools want to do is win now and win big.

The portal is one thing that Satterfield and Drinkwitz did not have. I believe if Drinkwitz had had the portal, he would have taken the entire team with him. When he did get the portal, he cherrypicked Appalachian, which in theory if he had not App would have had players that would have helped App win more games this year. Who knows, Satterfield may have taken Appalachian's entire team with him to Louisville, just like Huff is doing and Cignetti did last year.

It is going to take some time to figure this whole thing out, even App expects to win big and win now. I believe App has the best coach to navigate the current landscape of college football. Only time will tell of course.

[Yosef10]

Disagreeance is not lacking objectivity. It is merely a difference in perspective.

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

I’m not a Clark apologist but just saying Satterfield didn’t have his top players leaving for SEC schools. He hasn’t given me any reason since he left App to make me think he’d do much better than Clark the past few years. Not defending Clark, just saying they were coaching in different environments, both conference make up and different sets of rules. Satterfield’s advantage over Clark was finding diamonds in the rough and developing them into great talent. That doesn’t matter anymore because they’d leave for a paycheck once developed.

Shawn had two guys leave for SEC schools over his 5 years - and one was after 4 years at App (and coincidentally had his best season at Missouri). We gotta stop acting like this roster was pillaged year in and year out, it just is not the case. In fact, most transfers ended up transferring down to FCS. Which tells you the evaluation portion of recruiting was lacking as well.

[MrCraig]

Disagreeance is not lacking objectivity. It is merely a difference in perspective.

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

I’m not a Clark apologist but just saying Satterfield didn’t have his top players leaving for SEC schools. He hasn’t given me any reason since he left App to make me think he’d do much better than Clark the past few years. Not defending Clark, just saying they were coaching in different environments, both conference make up and different sets of rules. Satterfield’s advantage over Clark was finding diamonds in the rough and developing them into great talent. That doesn’t matter anymore because they’d leave for a paycheck once developed.

Shawn had two guys leave for SEC schools over his 5 years - and one was after 4 years at App (and coincidentally had his best season at Missouri). We gotta stop acting like this roster was pillaged year in and year out, it just is not the case. In fact, most transfers ended up transferring down to FCS. Which tells you the evaluation portion of recruiting was lacking as well.

The transfer portal situation is the same as the coaching situation. We should WANT to get guys that will be eventually poached by P4 schools. If we aren’t, then we aren’t getting very good players.

[704App]

If the transfer portal we know today existed in 2019, Drink likely wouldn't be at Mizzou and a good chance he's the one that got fired after this season.

Transfer portal changed the game for G5s.

Until Loggains came with his plan, the athletic department didn't see the need to increase. Now, since Loggains laid out his plan and was hired with a larger NIL and assistant salary pool, hopefully we can compete in this era.

Clark didn't get the resources he needed to compete in this era but also didn't change his ways until way too late into the game. If he changed his ways to align with the change in G5 recruiting earlier, I think he might have been given the resources to compete like Loggains is getting.

Once Clark got the salary pool to get the coordinators on a 2 year deal to compete and more NIL resources, he was already too far behind the 8 ball in player development because of the constant rotation of position coaches to catch back up.

[Pikapp79]

Disagreeance is not lacking objectivity. It is merely a difference in perspective.

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

I’m not a Clark apologist but just saying Satterfield didn’t have his top players leaving for SEC schools. He hasn’t given me any reason since he left App to make me think he’d do much better than Clark the past few years. Not defending Clark, just saying they were coaching in different environments, both conference make up and different sets of rules. Satterfield’s advantage over Clark was finding diamonds in the rough and developing them into great talent. That doesn’t matter anymore because they’d leave for a paycheck once developed.

Shawn had two guys leave for SEC schools over his 5 years - and one was after 4 years at App (and coincidentally had his best season at Missouri). We gotta stop acting like this roster was pillaged year in and year out, it just is not the case. In fact, most transfers ended up transferring down to FCS. Which tells you the evaluation portion of recruiting was lacking as well.

Due to our lack of talent.

[AppWyo]

Disagreeance is not lacking objectivity. It is merely a difference in perspective.

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

I’m not a Clark apologist but just saying Satterfield didn’t have his top players leaving for SEC schools. He hasn’t given me any reason since he left App to make me think he’d do much better than Clark the past few years. Not defending Clark, just saying they were coaching in different environments, both conference make up and different sets of rules. Satterfield’s advantage over Clark was finding diamonds in the rough and developing them into great talent. That doesn’t matter anymore because they’d leave for a paycheck once developed.

Shawn had two guys leave for SEC schools over his 5 years - and one was after 4 years at App (and coincidentally had his best season at Missouri). We gotta stop acting like this roster was pillaged year in and year out, it just is not the case. In fact, most transfers ended up transferring down to FCS. Which tells you the evaluation portion of recruiting was lacking as well.

Due to our lack of talent.

The extra year due to covid also kept players around another year that maybe had they not had that extra year would have allowed new players to play and develop.

Basically, it is not one thing it is everything. Our players and coaches never quit or gave up, the score just did not reflect the effort.

[bcoach]

Disagreeance is not lacking objectivity. It is merely a difference in perspective.

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

I’m not a Clark apologist but just saying Satterfield didn’t have his top players leaving for SEC schools. He hasn’t given me any reason since he left App to make me think he’d do much better than Clark the past few years. Not defending Clark, just saying they were coaching in different environments, both conference make up and different sets of rules. Satterfield’s advantage over Clark was finding diamonds in the rough and developing them into great talent. That doesn’t matter anymore because they’d leave for a paycheck once developed.

Shawn had two guys leave for SEC schools over his 5 years - and one was after 4 years at App (and coincidentally had his best season at Missouri). We gotta stop acting like this roster was pillaged year in and year out, it just is not the case. In fact, most transfers ended up transferring down to FCS. Which tells you the evaluation portion of recruiting was lacking as well.

Due to our lack of talent.

I thought we had a wealth of talent and should have won the confrence and on to a ny6.

[AppStFan1]

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

I’m not a Clark apologist but just saying Satterfield didn’t have his top players leaving for SEC schools. He hasn’t given me any reason since he left App to make me think he’d do much better than Clark the past few years. Not defending Clark, just saying they were coaching in different environments, both conference make up and different sets of rules. Satterfield’s advantage over Clark was finding diamonds in the rough and developing them into great talent. That doesn’t matter anymore because they’d leave for a paycheck once developed.

Shawn had two guys leave for SEC schools over his 5 years - and one was after 4 years at App (and coincidentally had his best season at Missouri). We gotta stop acting like this roster was pillaged year in and year out, it just is not the case. In fact, most transfers ended up transferring down to FCS. Which tells you the evaluation portion of recruiting was lacking as well.

Due to our lack of talent.

I thought we had a wealth of talent and should have won the confrence and on to a ny6.

That is exactly what our previous staff thought. At least it is what 2-3 of them thought. I am just hoping that we can finally believe what comes out of Jack Branch Drive now.

[AppSt94]

Disagreeance is not lacking objectivity. It is merely a difference in perspective.

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

Cooper Hodges, Nick Hampton, Shaun Jolly, Bucky Williams, Tyrek Funderburke, Andrew Parker and Henry Pearson. Feel free to discount this list as Satt guys for the most part but they were developed into NFL ready talent by the former staff. It is also fair to say that they aren’t as good in quality as that from the Satt era. Drink accomplished nothing in terms of recruitment and development.

Facts are facts as you stated. But you don’t get to cherry pick what is fact and what is excuse. They are all facts. Injuries, attrition, class balance, coaching turnover. Dismissal as an excuse doesn’t dismiss it is as fact.

[AppFan11]

D’Marco Jackson

[Mjohn1988]

Disagreeance is not lacking objectivity. It is merely a difference in perspective.

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

Cooper Hodges, Nick Hampton, Shaun Jolly, Bucky Williams, Tyrek Funderburke, Andrew Parker and Henry Pearson. Feel free to discount this list as Satt guys for the most part but they were developed into NFL ready talent by the former staff. It is also fair to say that they aren’t as good in quality as that from the Satt era. Drink accomplished nothing in terms of recruitment and development.

Facts are facts as you stated. But you don’t get to cherry pick what is fact and what is excuse. They are all facts. Injuries, attrition, class balance, coaching turnover. Dismissal as an excuse doesn’t dismiss it is as fact.

Come on man, every one of these guys except Parker came in under Satt. Yes they played under Clark. Your post actually does more to prove Yosef10’s point than it does to refute it. You named 6 guys that came in under Satt and one that came in under Clark. I really like Shawn Clark but the recruiting was awful.

[AppSt94]

Disagreeance is not lacking objectivity. It is merely a difference in perspective.

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

Cooper Hodges, Nick Hampton, Shaun Jolly, Bucky Williams, Tyrek Funderburke, Andrew Parker and Henry Pearson. Feel free to discount this list as Satt guys for the most part but they were developed into NFL ready talent by the former staff. It is also fair to say that they aren’t as good in quality as that from the Satt era. Drink accomplished nothing in terms of recruitment and development.

Facts are facts as you stated. But you don’t get to cherry pick what is fact and what is excuse. They are all facts. Injuries, attrition, class balance, coaching turnover. Dismissal as an excuse doesn’t dismiss it is as fact.

Come on man, every one of these guys except Parker came in under Satt. Yes they played under Clark. Your post actually does more to prove Yosef10’s point than it does to refute it. You named 6 guys that came in under Satt and one that came in under Clark. I really like Shawn Clark but the recruiting was awful.

His comment was to development and not recruiting. Those are two different things. Those guys didn’t come to campus ready to be NFL players. They were developed by the former staff.

[Mjohn1988]

Disagreeance is not lacking objectivity. It is merely a difference in perspective.

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

Cooper Hodges, Nick Hampton, Shaun Jolly, Bucky Williams, Tyrek Funderburke, Andrew Parker and Henry Pearson. Feel free to discount this list as Satt guys for the most part but they were developed into NFL ready talent by the former staff. It is also fair to say that they aren’t as good in quality as that from the Satt era. Drink accomplished nothing in terms of recruitment and development.

Facts are facts as you stated. But you don’t get to cherry pick what is fact and what is excuse. They are all facts. Injuries, attrition, class balance, coaching turnover. Dismissal as an excuse doesn’t dismiss it is as fact.

Come on man, every one of these guys except Parker came in under Satt. Yes they played under Clark. Your post actually does more to prove Yosef10’s point than it does to refute it. You named 6 guys that came in under Satt and one that came in under Clark. I really like Shawn Clark but the recruiting was awful.

His comment was to development and not recruiting. Those are two different things. Those guys didn’t come to campus ready to be NFL players. They were developed by the former staff.

So who’s going to the NFL from the 20, 21 or even the 22 classes? Did the last staff “develop” any NFL players from those classes? Point being all the marinade in the world can’t turn a flank steak into a fillet mignon.

[Pikapp79]

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

I’m not a Clark apologist but just saying Satterfield didn’t have his top players leaving for SEC schools. He hasn’t given me any reason since he left App to make me think he’d do much better than Clark the past few years. Not defending Clark, just saying they were coaching in different environments, both conference make up and different sets of rules. Satterfield’s advantage over Clark was finding diamonds in the rough and developing them into great talent. That doesn’t matter anymore because they’d leave for a paycheck once developed.

Shawn had two guys leave for SEC schools over his 5 years - and one was after 4 years at App (and coincidentally had his best season at Missouri). We gotta stop acting like this roster was pillaged year in and year out, it just is not the case. In fact, most transfers ended up transferring down to FCS. Which tells you the evaluation portion of recruiting was lacking as well.

Due to our lack of talent.

I thought we had a wealth of talent and should have won the confrence and on to a ny6.

Where was the wealth of talent? Who are the studs? Team full of ok guys with a handful of good players.

[AppSt94]

At the end of the day facts are facts. Feel free to list the guys who ended up on NFL rosters over the last 3 years compared to any 3 year stretch of Satt/Drink. Development has unquestionably been an issue at App. Shouldn’t hurt anyone’s feelings to call it like it is.

Cooper Hodges, Nick Hampton, Shaun Jolly, Bucky Williams, Tyrek Funderburke, Andrew Parker and Henry Pearson. Feel free to discount this list as Satt guys for the most part but they were developed into NFL ready talent by the former staff. It is also fair to say that they aren’t as good in quality as that from the Satt era. Drink accomplished nothing in terms of recruitment and development.

Facts are facts as you stated. But you don’t get to cherry pick what is fact and what is excuse. They are all facts. Injuries, attrition, class balance, coaching turnover. Dismissal as an excuse doesn’t dismiss it is as fact.

Come on man, every one of these guys except Parker came in under Satt. Yes they played under Clark. Your post actually does more to prove Yosef10’s point than it does to refute it. You named 6 guys that came in under Satt and one that came in under Clark. I really like Shawn Clark but the recruiting was awful.

His comment was to development and not recruiting. Those are two different things. Those guys didn’t come to campus ready to be NFL players. They were developed by the former staff.

So who’s going to the NFL from the 20, 21 or even the 22 classes? Did the last staff “develop” any NFL players from those classes? Point being all the marinade in the world can’t turn a flank steak into a fillet mignon.

Why is it important to produce NFL talent? Isn’t it the position among the group that wins and losses are what matter? Yes you want and need good players and you can have good players that aren’t NFL caliber. Patrick Mahomes is one of the best QBs in the NFL today and his teams at Texas Tech were mid.

Here is a question for those of you that think that Shawn had destroyed or was on the way to destroying the program. He hasn’t produced the results that Satt did which is true. And we can sit here and go back and forth from now until the end of time with “what ifs.” It isn’t going to change anyone’s opinion one way or another. Is it possible that Satt caught lightening in a bottle with the collection of talent from 2017-2019 that he benefited from?
He was 51-24 here at App but is a paultry 33-40 at big boy schools. Jerry Moore won three Nattys with pretty much the same nucleus of talent. Once that talent started to move on, the titles went away.

Time will tell whether this change was a good decision or not.

[Mjohn1988]

Cooper Hodges, Nick Hampton, Shaun Jolly, Bucky Williams, Tyrek Funderburke, Andrew Parker and Henry Pearson. Feel free to discount this list as Satt guys for the most part but they were developed into NFL ready talent by the former staff. It is also fair to say that they aren’t as good in quality as that from the Satt era. Drink accomplished nothing in terms of recruitment and development.

Facts are facts as you stated. But you don’t get to cherry pick what is fact and what is excuse. They are all facts. Injuries, attrition, class balance, coaching turnover. Dismissal as an excuse doesn’t dismiss it is as fact.

Come on man, every one of these guys except Parker came in under Satt. Yes they played under Clark. Your post actually does more to prove Yosef10’s point than it does to refute it. You named 6 guys that came in under Satt and one that came in under Clark. I really like Shawn Clark but the recruiting was awful.

His comment was to development and not recruiting. Those are two different things. Those guys didn’t come to campus ready to be NFL players. They were developed by the former staff.

So who’s going to the NFL from the 20, 21 or even the 22 classes? Did the last staff “develop” any NFL players from those classes? Point being all the marinade in the world can’t turn a flank steak into a fillet mignon.

Why is it important to produce NFL talent? Isn’t it the position among the group that wins and losses are what matter? Yes you want and need good players and you can have good players that aren’t NFL caliber. Patrick Mahomes is one of the best QBs in the NFL today and his teams at Texas Tech were mid.

Here is a question for those of you that think that Shawn had destroyed or was on the way to destroying the program. He hasn’t produced the results that Satt did which is true. And we can sit here and go back and forth from now until the end of time with “what ifs.” It isn’t going to change anyone’s opinion one way or another. Is it possible that Satt caught lightening in a bottle with the collection of talent from 2017-2019 that he benefited from?
He was 51-24 here at App but is a paultry 33-40 at big boy schools. Jerry Moore won three Nattys with pretty much the same nucleus of talent. Once that talent started to move on, the titles went away.

Time will tell whether this change was a good decision or not.

I’m not at all about beating up on Shawn Clark. I have simply been saying for the last 3 years that we have had a major drop off in talent. I don’t even thinks it’s an arguable point. With that I’ll be done talking about it.

[BambooRdApp]

Former Appalachian State QB Joey Aguilar tells ESPN he plans to set a visit next week to UCLA. He’s also heard from Cal, UCF, Washington State, Ole Miss, Charlotte, Coastal Carolina, Miami OH and WKU. UCLA is his only visit in the works.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out and whether he gets a Power school offer with a legitimate chance to start

[boonetown1]

Former Appalachian State QB Joey Aguilar tells ESPN he plans to set a visit next week to UCLA. He’s also heard from Cal, UCF, Washington State, Ole Miss, Charlotte, Coastal Carolina, Miami OH and WKU. UCLA is his only visit in the works.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out and whether he gets a Power school offer with a legitimate chance to start

Charlotte must have someone forking up some money down there. They already landed loftis. TBH, kind of jealous the route they chose to go.

[AppSt94]

Come on man, every one of these guys except Parker came in under Satt. Yes they played under Clark. Your post actually does more to prove Yosef10’s point than it does to refute it. You named 6 guys that came in under Satt and one that came in under Clark. I really like Shawn Clark but the recruiting was awful.

His comment was to development and not recruiting. Those are two different things. Those guys didn’t come to campus ready to be NFL players. They were developed by the former staff.

So who’s going to the NFL from the 20, 21 or even the 22 classes? Did the last staff “develop” any NFL players from those classes? Point being all the marinade in the world can’t turn a flank steak into a fillet mignon.

Why is it important to produce NFL talent? Isn’t it the position among the group that wins and losses are what matter? Yes you want and need good players and you can have good players that aren’t NFL caliber. Patrick Mahomes is one of the best QBs in the NFL today and his teams at Texas Tech were mid.

Here is a question for those of you that think that Shawn had destroyed or was on the way to destroying the program. He hasn’t produced the results that Satt did which is true. And we can sit here and go back and forth from now until the end of time with “what ifs.” It isn’t going to change anyone’s opinion one way or another. Is it possible that Satt caught lightening in a bottle with the collection of talent from 2017-2019 that he benefited from?
He was 51-24 here at App but is a paultry 33-40 at big boy schools. Jerry Moore won three Nattys with pretty much the same nucleus of talent. Once that talent started to move on, the titles went away.

Time will tell whether this change was a good decision or not.

I’m not at all about beating up on Shawn Clark. I have simply been saying for the last 3 years that we have had a major drop off in talent. I don’t even thinks it’s an arguable point. With that I’ll be done talking about it.

Comparing it to what he inherited, I would tend to agree. I just don’t feel like an expectation of consistency in recruiting at that level is fair as that talent as a group could be seen as a generational group. Much like the group from 2004-2008. Have a good day.

[Parks&RecAPP]

Jack Hollifield to Tulane.