Possible transfer situations

[BambooRdApp]

Off topic fwiw, I see where our QB buddy Maye at UNC was rumoured to be offered $5 million by 2 other schools.

I wonder how much he is earning at UNC. I am sure he just plays there for the love of the game right. I love how they are all of a sudden the victim considering their star bball players stuck around due to their NIL deals.

I seem to recall that his valuation at some point this season was around a million.

The Pitt Coach was quoted as Maye getting the offers. If he did, that is impressive given he is a RS Freshman... whether it ABC player fom whatever U. It is great for players ...but not so much for fans..IMO

[Black Saturday]

Off topic fwiw, I see where our QB buddy Maye at UNC was rumoured to be offered $5 million by 2 other schools.

I wonder how much he is earning at UNC. I am sure he just plays there for the love of the game right. I love how they are all of a sudden the victim considering their star bball players stuck around due to their NIL deals.

I seem to recall that his valuation at some point this season was around a million.

He was heavily recruited by Alabama...before he signed with UNC. I'm sure there are some SEC and a few other schools like Ohio State around the country have those kinds of NIL funds. You can't blame the one with the talent for taking it.

[311neers]

Off topic fwiw, I see where our QB buddy Maye at UNC was rumoured to be offered $5 million by 2 other schools.

I wonder how much he is earning at UNC. I am sure he just plays there for the love of the game right. I love how they are all of a sudden the victim considering their star bball players stuck around due to their NIL deals.

I seem to recall that his valuation at some point this season was around a million.

He was heavily recruited by Alabama...before he signed with UNC. I'm sure there are some SEC and a few other schools like Ohio State around the country have those kinds of NIL funds. You can't blame the one with the talent for taking it.

Why pass up $5M? Wonder what UNC had to pay to keep him

[hapapp]

Off topic fwiw, I see where our QB buddy Maye at UNC was rumoured to be offered $5 million by 2 other schools.

I wonder how much he is earning at UNC. I am sure he just plays there for the love of the game right. I love how they are all of a sudden the victim considering their star bball players stuck around due to their NIL deals.

I seem to recall that his valuation at some point this season was around a million.

He was heavily recruited by Alabama...before he signed with UNC. I'm sure there are some SEC and a few other schools like Ohio State around the country have those kinds of NIL funds. You can't blame the one with the talent for taking it.

I actually thought he had originally committed to Alabama.

[Stonewall]

Off topic fwiw, I see where our QB buddy Maye at UNC was rumoured to be offered $5 million by 2 other schools.

I wonder how much he is earning at UNC. I am sure he just plays there for the love of the game right. I love how they are all of a sudden the victim considering their star bball players stuck around due to their NIL deals.

I seem to recall that his valuation at some point this season was around a million.

He was heavily recruited by Alabama...before he signed with UNC. I'm sure there are some SEC and a few other schools like Ohio State around the country have those kinds of NIL funds. You can't blame the one with the talent for taking it.

Why pass up $5M? Wonder what UNC had to pay to keep him

Talk in Orange County about him using the Portal to leverage a bigger NLI there and getting about what he wanted.Enough to "remain loyal" anyway.

[goapps93]

I wonder how much he is earning at UNC. I am sure he just plays there for the love of the game right. I love how they are all of a sudden the victim considering their star bball players stuck around due to their NIL deals.

I seem to recall that his valuation at some point this season was around a million.

He was heavily recruited by Alabama...before he signed with UNC. I'm sure there are some SEC and a few other schools like Ohio State around the country have those kinds of NIL funds. You can't blame the one with the talent for taking it.

Why pass up $5M? Wonder what UNC had to pay to keep him

Talk in Orange County about him using the Portal to leverage a bigger NLI there and getting about what he wanted.Enough to "remain loyal" anyway.

But he didn’t enter the portal. It’s been my understanding that players aren’t supposed to be contacted unless they’re in the portal. That was Narduzzi’s point. I think he and Mack have been outspoken about their concerns with NIL and this is a way for them to stand on a soapbox. Mack also said they lost recruits because of NIL. I wonder if some of this is smoke, even though “rules” are being broken.

[AppSt94]

I seem to recall that his valuation at some point this season was around a million.

He was heavily recruited by Alabama...before he signed with UNC. I'm sure there are some SEC and a few other schools like Ohio State around the country have those kinds of NIL funds. You can't blame the one with the talent for taking it.

Why pass up $5M? Wonder what UNC had to pay to keep him

Talk in Orange County about him using the Portal to leverage a bigger NLI there and getting about what he wanted.Enough to "remain loyal" anyway.

But he didn’t enter the portal. It’s been my understanding that players aren’t supposed to be contacted unless they’re in the portal. That was Narduzzi’s point. I think he and Mack have been outspoken about their concerns with NIL and this is a way for them to stand on a soapbox. Mack also said they lost recruits because of NIL. I wonder if some of this is smoke, even though “rules” are being broken.

Yes, this is the problem with NIl. It isn’t regulated well and there are too many loopholes.

[Yosefus]

It bugs me if those coaches want to gripe and complain about it why would they not name the schools that recruited him with more NIL?

[pop5app]

I seem to recall that his valuation at some point this season was around a million.

He was heavily recruited by Alabama...before he signed with UNC. I'm sure there are some SEC and a few other schools like Ohio State around the country have those kinds of NIL funds. You can't blame the one with the talent for taking it.

Why pass up $5M? Wonder what UNC had to pay to keep him

Talk in Orange County about him using the Portal to leverage a bigger NLI there and getting about what he wanted.Enough to "remain loyal" anyway.

But he didn’t enter the portal. It’s been my understanding that players aren’t supposed to be contacted unless they’re in the portal. That was Narduzzi’s point. I think he and Mack have been outspoken about their concerns with NIL and this is a way for them to stand on a soapbox. Mack also said they lost recruits because of NIL. I wonder if some of this is smoke, even though “rules” are being broken.

HA!
NCAA: “Rules we don’t need no stinkin rules”.

[AppSt94]

It bugs me if those coaches want to gripe and complain about it why would they not name the schools that recruited him with more NIL?

My guess is because they either don’t want to bite the hand they may need to feed them later, or they don’t want to draw attention to themselves for the same thing.

[Black Saturday]

I'd say the Portal, NIL and Tampering are akin to the Wild West now

[AppSt94]

I'd say the Portal, NIL and Tampering are akin to the Wild West now

Agree. Solving one problem generally leads to a different problem.

[Stonewall]

I seem to recall that his valuation at some point this season was around a million.

He was heavily recruited by Alabama...before he signed with UNC. I'm sure there are some SEC and a few other schools like Ohio State around the country have those kinds of NIL funds. You can't blame the one with the talent for taking it.

Why pass up $5M? Wonder what UNC had to pay to keep him

Talk in Orange County about him using the Portal to leverage a bigger NLI there and getting about what he wanted.Enough to "remain loyal" anyway.

But he didn’t enter the portal. It’s been my understanding that players aren’t supposed to be contacted unless they’re in the portal. That was Narduzzi’s point. I think he and Mack have been outspoken about their concerns with NIL and this is a way for them to stand on a soapbox. Mack also said they lost recruits because of NIL. I wonder if some of this is smoke, even though “rules” are being broken.

Where did I say he did? He and his "camp" "used" it.Leverage.Again , if the stories are accurate.I have no first hand knowledge .However , Coaches , including our own , have told me that intermediaries approach better players frequently.

[AppSt94]

He was heavily recruited by Alabama...before he signed with UNC. I'm sure there are some SEC and a few other schools like Ohio State around the country have those kinds of NIL funds. You can't blame the one with the talent for taking it.

Why pass up $5M? Wonder what UNC had to pay to keep him

Talk in Orange County about him using the Portal to leverage a bigger NLI there and getting about what he wanted.Enough to "remain loyal" anyway.

But he didn’t enter the portal. It’s been my understanding that players aren’t supposed to be contacted unless they’re in the portal. That was Narduzzi’s point. I think he and Mack have been outspoken about their concerns with NIL and this is a way for them to stand on a soapbox. Mack also said they lost recruits because of NIL. I wonder if some of this is smoke, even though “rules” are being broken.

Where did I say he did? He and his "camp" "used" it.Leverage.Again , if the stories are accurate.I have no first hand knowledge .However , Coaches , including our own , have told me that intermediaries approach better players frequently.

Agree. High school coaches act as agents in some situations. Parents do it sometimes as well. We had a player this year that had people looking around on his behalf.

[Stonewall]

Exactly what I was told.

[ericsaid]

Moose prioritizes 24/7 over this place.

Seems logical.

I used to always get my posts deleted on 24/7. I still go there for recruiting and depth charts

Yeah, 24/7 is a cess pool. If David Ware had any kind of reporting skill, it would be good. But, if you don't agree with him, you're deleted almost immediately.

Yosef94 can attest that this is a lie. Rarely anyone agrees with me over there and I've yet to be "deleted". This isn't the Matrix. It's likely an issue when you report something David hasn't heard on his site, or is demonstrably false, that he has an issue. I've literally never seen anyone over there be "disappeared".

[ericsaid]

I think Berger will be our McCall. What I saw of him this season impressed me. We'll see.

He was 4/6 this year..

According to Ponce, he will be better. Best QB he has ever recruited and seen in high school.

This. Ponce had the entire Burger family in tears during one of his recruiting pitches. Burger was also a large reason Ponce initially turned down the Miami job before Cristobal came back with a lot more money.

Now, Burger has to obviously put it all together, but he has the talent to bring us to new heights. And everything I've seen from a couple of the practices I've been to, he gets better every day.

Something many here seem to forget is that Burger's dad was a coach. Taylor Lamb was very much a coach on the field without the physical abilities of a guy like Burger. 6'4, 4.5 40, with an alleged cannon. If you have a guy like that who has all of the physical tools you could ever want to go along with Lambs player-coach mentality, the entire team will be elevated.

Cannot be understated enough. He's got some competition coming from McHugh who worked with Jordan Palmer in LA all year and whose parents had to have invested thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, in their son.

[ericsaid]

Off topic fwiw, I see where our QB buddy Maye at UNC was rumoured to be offered $5 million by 2 other schools.

I wonder how much he is earning at UNC. I am sure he just plays there for the love of the game right. I love how they are all of a sudden the victim considering their star bball players stuck around due to their NIL deals.

I seem to recall that his valuation at some point this season was around a million.

He was heavily recruited by Alabama...before he signed with UNC. I'm sure there are some SEC and a few other schools like Ohio State around the country have those kinds of NIL funds. You can't blame the one with the talent for taking it.

Maye's dad is a UNC legend. Maye wasn't going to go anywhere else.

I wish Howell had some eligibility left because the UNC game left me thinking he is an App fan as much as a UNC fan.

[ericsaid]

It's simple. He was offered a P5 job. He never even flirted with it, but the extension was to keep other offers away. The extension also lowered our buy out. The BOT was only on board with the extension if it lowered our buy out. I can't remember exact details or dollar amounts though.

Also, he fixed a lot of academic issues. A lot of stars didn't feel the need to be students. Clark wasn't about that. Other off field issues were also addressed (minor things).

He (and Watts) also made tremendous headway on balancing the classes. This season is doing even more work in that regard. Between Drink's inability to recruit and the super senior years, the classes were extremely out of whack. Successful G5 programs can't compete with unbalanced classes (although, that's a little different now with the transfer portal).

That's extremely fair and I appreciate your insight. But do you get the I am worried that we will go 7-5(6) and we keep going like this because we made a bowl game?

I definitely get the concern. Again, being concerned and talking about perceived issues is a good thing. We would be like UNC Concord and Coastal if we didn't have a passionate fan base that cares. My issue isn't about fans caring and discussing it. My issue is the constant negativity while discussing it. According to some, the only way we can fix what's happening is fire everyone, get all new players, and hire Nick Saban -- all things that won't happen (and yes, I know this is extreme..) There are other ways to fix the issues. Fortunately for us, Gillin and Everts know and see this.

Also, I'd wager a portion of the fire everybody crowd have never given a dollar to Yosef Club and have been free loading for years.

The thing is, Clark was given the keys to a Lamborghini with an engine on its last legs and the money to fix it being drained elsewhere. To most, all that was seen was a brand new Lamborghini. But looking under the hood showed a lot more issues and creativity and a lot more hard work was needed to start the repairs. Good news is Clark has been given a little more money to put towards finishing the repairs -- but it may take some time still.

You obviously know what you're talking about and I appreciate your insight. But this is where you loose me: a 2000 Ford makes a bowl game. Freaking UConn did. Drink was here one year. Its time to stop making excuses. Its not like he was here as long as Jason Capel. So Drink did a poor job recruiting for a year, let academics and character go for a year, three years later man, three years later, and 2023 should be the rebuilding year.

What if said 2000 Ford didn't have any wheels or a key? And there wasn't any money to get the wheels and key?

If it was during normal circumstances, I would agree with you. But, this also happened during the middle of a pandemic. Sure, all other programs had to deal with the pandemic. How many other programs literally cut their assistant coach salary pool in half to stay afloat during the pandemic? Less than 10...

Bottom line -- there is far more than meets the eye here. This has been manifesting since 2017ish. If it weren't for the super senior allowance, we would have seen this in 2021 -- maybe 2020. And it's all snowballed into a bigger issue in 2022 because it was covered up by the two years of super seniors.

I'm late to this party, obviously. But there is a lot more roster turnover this year than there was in 2022.

Why did App lose those one score games? The lack of replacement for chaos plays in the front 7 of the defense. A great front 7 can make the back 4 look like super stars. All we had this year were Hampton and McLeod and that was known coming out of Fall Camp. They knew the defensive line was going to be an issue in pass rush. They've tried to address it in recruiting and transfers so I'm hopeful we will see some more double team smackdowns and tackles thrown around like rag dolls in 2023. If that issue isn't fixed though, App is looking at 4-8 to 6-6 in 2023.

[311neers]

I think Berger will be our McCall. What I saw of him this season impressed me. We'll see.

He was 4/6 this year..

According to Ponce, he will be better. Best QB he has ever recruited and seen in high school.

This. Ponce had the entire Burger family in tears during one of his recruiting pitches. Burger was also a large reason Ponce initially turned down the Miami job before Cristobal came back with a lot more money.

Now, Burger has to obviously put it all together, but he has the talent to bring us to new heights. And everything I've seen from a couple of the practices I've been to, he gets better every day.

Something many here seem to forget is that Burger's dad was a coach. Taylor Lamb was very much a coach on the field without the physical abilities of a guy like Burger. 6'4, 4.5 40, with an alleged cannon. If you have a guy like that who has all of the physical tools you could ever want to go along with Lambs player-coach mentality, the entire team will be elevated.

Cannot be understated enough. He's got some competition coming from McHugh who worked with Jordan Palmer in LA all year and whose parents had to have invested thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, in their son.

Oh man, I grew up and played against a kid in HS whose parents shopped him around. Played at 2 High School's in Charlotte, 1 in California (Mater Dei), a prep school, a JuCo, and ECU. His parents also made a movie about him. Needless to say, the kid sucked. Some of y'all probably know the prominent Charlotte family haha.

I'm certain Mchugh is going to be good, but don't think that's going to be the battle some think it is for next year. It'll be Burger, McBride, or Aguilar. I always get a little queasy when parents get involved to that level, but I understand it. We've got a stacked QB room though, could be anyones job.