Cox Breaks the Record

[bcoach]

Remind me again which numbers are retired

We only have 4 retired numbers. 23 (John Settle), 32 (Dexter Coakley), 38 (Dino Hackett), and 71 (Larry Hand). Settle's number we retired in 1986, right after he wrapped up his time at App, and for almost 20 years, he was the only retired number.

The other three numbers we didn't retire until 2005-06, so it's not like retired numbers are a deep tradition here. It's a relatively recent thing, for the most part, and I think we could do away with it, opting instead to preserve and honor those special numbers.

And we could either unretire 23, 32, 38 and 71 or just leave them retired but don't retire anymore. Yes, for the moment we have plenty of numbers and duplication isn't an issue, but considering several of these retirements have been for someone whose playing career is long-over, and that we will hopefully have many more standouts, we could start seriously limiting ourselves before long.

We no longer publicly honor those retired numbers anyway so we may as well do away with retirements if they are going to be a secret.

Aren't those 4 jerseys prominently posted on the visitor side stands where you can see them from the home side? I'm not sure how best to honor the guys like Armanti & Marcus (not an exclusive list), who haven't been honored yet but are worthy. Also, K. Richardson should be on that list, look at his career, not just in stats but the big games/seasons he was a part of. The Michigan win probably did more for putting us on the college football map than the FCS national championships did.

No actually they were taken down or painted over this year.

[WVAPPeer]

Can we not honor players without retiring the number?

Sure, there is the Hall of Fame --- again, what would you guys suggest if an OL is the one honored to wear the legacy number - he can't wear #14 --- Also, I totally agree with the point about Kevin Richardson, who still remains my favorite APP player and Corey Lynch should be added as a 3-time All-American who always made the Big Play ---

[Rick83]

Remind me again which numbers are retired

We only have 4 retired numbers. 23 (John Settle), 32 (Dexter Coakley), 38 (Dino Hackett), and 71 (Larry Hand). Settle's number we retired in 1986, right after he wrapped up his time at App, and for almost 20 years, he was the only retired number.

The other three numbers we didn't retire until 2005-06, so it's not like retired numbers are a deep tradition here. It's a relatively recent thing, for the most part, and I think we could do away with it, opting instead to preserve and honor those special numbers.

And we could either unretire 23, 32, 38 and 71 or just leave them retired but don't retire anymore. Yes, for the moment we have plenty of numbers and duplication isn't an issue, but considering several of these retirements have been for someone whose playing career is long-over, and that we will hopefully have many more standouts, we could start seriously limiting ourselves before long.

We no longer publicly honor those retired numbers anyway so we may as well do away with retirements if they are going to be a secret.

Aren't those 4 jerseys prominently posted on the visitor side stands where you can see them from the home side? I'm not sure how best to honor the guys like Armanti & Marcus (not an exclusive list), who haven't been honored yet but are worthy. Also, K. Richardson should be on that list, look at his career, not just in stats but the big games/seasons he was a part of. The Michigan win probably did more for putting us on the college football map than the FCS national championships did.

No actually they were taken down or painted over this year.

Pretty sure they're still there, on the steps to the side leading to the upper level facing the field...all 4, but no biggie

[bcoach]

We only have 4 retired numbers. 23 (John Settle), 32 (Dexter Coakley), 38 (Dino Hackett), and 71 (Larry Hand). Settle's number we retired in 1986, right after he wrapped up his time at App, and for almost 20 years, he was the only retired number.

The other three numbers we didn't retire until 2005-06, so it's not like retired numbers are a deep tradition here. It's a relatively recent thing, for the most part, and I think we could do away with it, opting instead to preserve and honor those special numbers.

And we could either unretire 23, 32, 38 and 71 or just leave them retired but don't retire anymore. Yes, for the moment we have plenty of numbers and duplication isn't an issue, but considering several of these retirements have been for someone whose playing career is long-over, and that we will hopefully have many more standouts, we could start seriously limiting ourselves before long.

We no longer publicly honor those retired numbers anyway so we may as well do away with retirements if they are going to be a secret.

Aren't those 4 jerseys prominently posted on the visitor side stands where you can see them from the home side? I'm not sure how best to honor the guys like Armanti & Marcus (not an exclusive list), who haven't been honored yet but are worthy. Also, K. Richardson should be on that list, look at his career, not just in stats but the big games/seasons he was a part of. The Michigan win probably did more for putting us on the college football map than the FCS national championships did.

No actually they were taken down or painted over this year.

Pretty sure they're still there, on the steps to the side leading to the upper level facing the field...all 4, but no biggie

Can't see them anymore from our side so I sure thought they were gone. I could be wrong but a few of us have been talking about it.

[Appftw]

We no longer publicly honor those retired numbers anyway so we may as well do away with retirements if they are going to be a secret.

Aren't those 4 jerseys prominently posted on the visitor side stands where you can see them from the home side? I'm not sure how best to honor the guys like Armanti & Marcus (not an exclusive list), who haven't been honored yet but are worthy. Also, K. Richardson should be on that list, look at his career, not just in stats but the big games/seasons he was a part of. The Michigan win probably did more for putting us on the college football map than the FCS national championships did.

No actually they were taken down or painted over this year.

Pretty sure they're still there, on the steps to the side leading to the upper level facing the field...all 4, but no biggie

Can't see them anymore from our side so I sure thought they were gone. I could be wrong but a few of us have been talking about it.

They moved them to the ramps on the east side.

[NewApp]

Remind me again which numbers are retired

We only have 4 retired numbers. 23 (John Settle), 32 (Dexter Coakley), 38 (Dino Hackett), and 71 (Larry Hand). Settle's number we retired in 1986, right after he wrapped up his time at App, and for almost 20 years, he was the only retired number.

The other three numbers we didn't retire until 2005-06, so it's not like retired numbers are a deep tradition here. It's a relatively recent thing, for the most part, and I think we could do away with it, opting instead to preserve and honor those special numbers.

And we could either unretire 23, 32, 38 and 71 or just leave them retired but don't retire anymore. Yes, for the moment we have plenty of numbers and duplication isn't an issue, but considering several of these retirements have been for someone whose playing career is long-over, and that we will hopefully have many more standouts, we could start seriously limiting ourselves before long.

We no longer publicly honor those retired numbers anyway so we may as well do away with retirements if they are going to be a secret.

Aren't those 4 jerseys prominently posted on the visitor side stands where you can see them from the home side? I'm not sure how best to honor the guys like Armanti & Marcus (not an exclusive list), who haven't been honored yet but are worthy. Also, K. Richardson should be on that list, look at his career, not just in stats but the big games/seasons he was a part of. The Michigan win probably did more for putting us on the college football map than the FCS national championships did.

No actually they were taken down or painted over this year.

It's debatable. Had we not been the reigning FCS champion, Michigan might not have scheduled us. Michigan was ranked #1 in FBS and we were ranked #1 in FCS. That was how it was marketed.

[AppinVA]

Michigan was No. 5, but they were up there. The 2008 game at LSU was marketed as the two defending National champions though.

[Rick83]

We only have 4 retired numbers. 23 (John Settle), 32 (Dexter Coakley), 38 (Dino Hackett), and 71 (Larry Hand). Settle's number we retired in 1986, right after he wrapped up his time at App, and for almost 20 years, he was the only retired number.

The other three numbers we didn't retire until 2005-06, so it's not like retired numbers are a deep tradition here. It's a relatively recent thing, for the most part, and I think we could do away with it, opting instead to preserve and honor those special numbers.

And we could either unretire 23, 32, 38 and 71 or just leave them retired but don't retire anymore. Yes, for the moment we have plenty of numbers and duplication isn't an issue, but considering several of these retirements have been for someone whose playing career is long-over, and that we will hopefully have many more standouts, we could start seriously limiting ourselves before long.

We no longer publicly honor those retired numbers anyway so we may as well do away with retirements if they are going to be a secret.

Aren't those 4 jerseys prominently posted on the visitor side stands where you can see them from the home side? I'm not sure how best to honor the guys like Armanti & Marcus (not an exclusive list), who haven't been honored yet but are worthy. Also, K. Richardson should be on that list, look at his career, not just in stats but the big games/seasons he was a part of. The Michigan win probably did more for putting us on the college football map than the FCS national championships did.

No actually they were taken down or painted over this year.

It's debatable. Had we not been the reigning FCS champion, Michigan might not have scheduled us. Michigan was ranked #1 in FBS and we were ranked #1 in FCS. That was how it was marketed.

Yeah, nothing happens in a vacuum, but I'd argue that the average college football fan had no idea that we won those FCS national championships but the whole world (except for those living in caves)...not just the college football world...heard and was impressed by the Michigan win. I'm obviously a former FCS guy but I couldn't tell you who has won the last several FCS championships or even whose favored this year.

[NewApp]

We no longer publicly honor those retired numbers anyway so we may as well do away with retirements if they are going to be a secret.

Aren't those 4 jerseys prominently posted on the visitor side stands where you can see them from the home side? I'm not sure how best to honor the guys like Armanti & Marcus (not an exclusive list), who haven't been honored yet but are worthy. Also, K. Richardson should be on that list, look at his career, not just in stats but the big games/seasons he was a part of. The Michigan win probably did more for putting us on the college football map than the FCS national championships did.

No actually they were taken down or painted over this year.

It's debatable. Had we not been the reigning FCS champion, Michigan might not have scheduled us. Michigan was ranked #1 in FBS and we were ranked #1 in FCS. That was how it was marketed.

Yeah, nothing happens in a vacuum, but I'd argue that the average college football fan had no idea that we won those FCS national championships but the whole world (except for those living in caves)...not just the college football world...heard and was impressed by the Michigan win. I'm obviously a former FCS guy but I couldn't tell you who has won the last several FCS championships or even whose favored this year.

Those who read the Charlotte Observer, which at that time reached hundreds of thousands knew it because it was plastered all over the front page as well as the front page of the sports section. Like you, I don't have a clue who the past several I-AA champs were but they weren't from NC with a strong history of good football like us. It was a major topic at my Kiwanis meetings around that time.

Too, Big Ten fans keep up with their close to future opponents. You better believe most of the 100K fans in attendance knew we were a great program in FCS, not an Elon or WCU.

[WVAPPeer]

So you guys call yourselves football fans and you never heard of North Dakota State???

[Rick83]

Aren't those 4 jerseys prominently posted on the visitor side stands where you can see them from the home side? I'm not sure how best to honor the guys like Armanti & Marcus (not an exclusive list), who haven't been honored yet but are worthy. Also, K. Richardson should be on that list, look at his career, not just in stats but the big games/seasons he was a part of. The Michigan win probably did more for putting us on the college football map than the FCS national championships did.

No actually they were taken down or painted over this year.

It's debatable. Had we not been the reigning FCS champion, Michigan might not have scheduled us. Michigan was ranked #1 in FBS and we were ranked #1 in FCS. That was how it was marketed.

Yeah, nothing happens in a vacuum, but I'd argue that the average college football fan had no idea that we won those FCS national championships but the whole world (except for those living in caves)...not just the college football world...heard and was impressed by the Michigan win. I'm obviously a former FCS guy but I couldn't tell you who has won the last several FCS championships or even whose favored this year.

Those who read the Charlotte Observer, which at that time reached hundreds of thousands knew it because it was plastered all over the front page as well as the front page of the sports section. Like you, I don't have a clue who the past several I-AA champs were but they weren't from NC with a strong history of good football like us. It was a major topic at my Kiwanis meetings around that time.

Too, Big Ten fans keep up with their close to future opponents. You better believe most of the 100K fans in attendance knew we were a great program in FCS, not an Elon or WCU.

Don't disagree with anything you're saying but all of that pales in comparison to the national media coverage of that event which probably reached 10s and 10s of millions+ of people, including the cover of Sports Illustrated which is proudly framed and hanging in my study. That one game is probably mentioned more still today than our 3 national championships by the mainstream sports media...not saying that's the way it should be but that's the way it is.

[Rick83]

So you guys call yourselves football fans and you never heard of North Dakota State???

Ha...North Dakota who? I actually call myself an App State football fan...if FCS received more coverage there might be more interest...but since we're FBS now I am not ashamed to say I have little interest in the FCS world at this point, it was fun while we were there.

[bigdaddyg]

Man Marcus Cox is a beast and it was great that he broke the all time App rushing record- this is my attempt to get a thread back on track. Lol.

How did it get to an FCS playoff discussion?

[appstate77]

So you guys call yourselves football fans and you never heard of North Dakota State???

"Frankly my dear..........."...

[bcoach]

Man Marcus Cox is a beast and it was great that he broke the all time App rushing record- this is my attempt to get a thread back on track. Lol.

How did it get to an FCS playoff discussion?

Insecurity often brings it up.