11-1 and SBC champs per Massey Ratings

[appst89]

Define your meaning of out-coached --- I did answer, a lousy coach can be out-coached and if we had lost to Miami last year 70-0 then sure but to prove your point by stating the ridiculous is not convincing to me --- The premise of my point is that both head coaches are at least solid coaches, if not good to very good coaches, thus my example of K and Roy - And for EastHall if you go back and read one of my initial points I say, "if the coaches have basically the same level of talent" which is exactly what I meant with Duke and UNC - I didn't pick Duke and Boston College nor UNC and Ga Tech - I would hope you would agree that Duke and UNC are much more equal in talent in basketball than Miami and APP in football?
As UKappfan points out --- "Miami kept throwing quick throws to their very fast WRs and we just could not adjust or stop it. Then when we finally stopped that, they hit us deep. They were too fast and had a simply game plan that worked. " Thus my question to TDog about defining your meaning of out-coached - Does UK's example mean Coach Satterfield was out-coached? It does not to me, to me it states that a good coach with overwhelming talent used that talent properly - Please tell me how that means Satterfield was out-coached? - What great coaching ideas would you have passed onto him if you were up in the box that day?

You have to realize that most of the ones who incessantly debate coaching decisions after every game and on year round think they know more than Div I coaches.

I never realized you were a mind reader.

I think we were out-prepared by Miami. While we were focusing on having the biggest game ever in KBS, they were focusing on finding and exploiting weaknesses. It's my opinion that everyone in our program from the head coach down to the water boy got caught up in the hype of having The U coming to Boone and didn't focus as much on the game itself. We paid dearly for that lack of focus. I don't understand why some folks think it is sacrilege to say that. It was a learning experience for the whole program. I'm willing to bet it won't happen again.

[NewApp]

Define your meaning of out-coached --- I did answer, a lousy coach can be out-coached and if we had lost to Miami last year 70-0 then sure but to prove your point by stating the ridiculous is not convincing to me --- The premise of my point is that both head coaches are at least solid coaches, if not good to very good coaches, thus my example of K and Roy - And for EastHall if you go back and read one of my initial points I say, "if the coaches have basically the same level of talent" which is exactly what I meant with Duke and UNC - I didn't pick Duke and Boston College nor UNC and Ga Tech - I would hope you would agree that Duke and UNC are much more equal in talent in basketball than Miami and APP in football?
As UKappfan points out --- "Miami kept throwing quick throws to their very fast WRs and we just could not adjust or stop it. Then when we finally stopped that, they hit us deep. They were too fast and had a simply game plan that worked. " Thus my question to TDog about defining your meaning of out-coached - Does UK's example mean Coach Satterfield was out-coached? It does not to me, to me it states that a good coach with overwhelming talent used that talent properly - Please tell me how that means Satterfield was out-coached? - What great coaching ideas would you have passed onto him if you were up in the box that day?

You have to realize that most of the ones who incessantly debate coaching decisions after every game and on year round think they know more than Div I coaches.

I never realized you were a mind reader.

You mean like all the ones, including you, who think they are reading my mind when they twist most of the things I post on here??????

[appst89]

Define your meaning of out-coached --- I did answer, a lousy coach can be out-coached and if we had lost to Miami last year 70-0 then sure but to prove your point by stating the ridiculous is not convincing to me --- The premise of my point is that both head coaches are at least solid coaches, if not good to very good coaches, thus my example of K and Roy - And for EastHall if you go back and read one of my initial points I say, "if the coaches have basically the same level of talent" which is exactly what I meant with Duke and UNC - I didn't pick Duke and Boston College nor UNC and Ga Tech - I would hope you would agree that Duke and UNC are much more equal in talent in basketball than Miami and APP in football?
As UKappfan points out --- "Miami kept throwing quick throws to their very fast WRs and we just could not adjust or stop it. Then when we finally stopped that, they hit us deep. They were too fast and had a simply game plan that worked. " Thus my question to TDog about defining your meaning of out-coached - Does UK's example mean Coach Satterfield was out-coached? It does not to me, to me it states that a good coach with overwhelming talent used that talent properly - Please tell me how that means Satterfield was out-coached? - What great coaching ideas would you have passed onto him if you were up in the box that day?

You have to realize that most of the ones who incessantly debate coaching decisions after every game and on year round think they know more than Div I coaches.

I never realized you were a mind reader.

You mean like all the ones, including you, who think they are reading my mind when they twist most of the things I post on here??????

How did I twist anything? I just replied to what you said. You stated what other people are thinking. Unless you've spoken directly to all of them, the only other conclusion one can come to is that you read minds.

[NewApp]

Define your meaning of out-coached --- I did answer, a lousy coach can be out-coached and if we had lost to Miami last year 70-0 then sure but to prove your point by stating the ridiculous is not convincing to me --- The premise of my point is that both head coaches are at least solid coaches, if not good to very good coaches, thus my example of K and Roy - And for EastHall if you go back and read one of my initial points I say, "if the coaches have basically the same level of talent" which is exactly what I meant with Duke and UNC - I didn't pick Duke and Boston College nor UNC and Ga Tech - I would hope you would agree that Duke and UNC are much more equal in talent in basketball than Miami and APP in football?
As UKappfan points out --- "Miami kept throwing quick throws to their very fast WRs and we just could not adjust or stop it. Then when we finally stopped that, they hit us deep. They were too fast and had a simply game plan that worked. " Thus my question to TDog about defining your meaning of out-coached - Does UK's example mean Coach Satterfield was out-coached? It does not to me, to me it states that a good coach with overwhelming talent used that talent properly - Please tell me how that means Satterfield was out-coached? - What great coaching ideas would you have passed onto him if you were up in the box that day?

You have to realize that most of the ones who incessantly debate coaching decisions after every game and on year round think they know more than Div I coaches.

I never realized you were a mind reader.

You mean like all the ones, including you, who think they are reading my mind when they twist most of the things I post on here??????

How did I twist anything? I just replied to what you said. You stated what other people are thinking. Unless you've spoken directly to all of them, the only other conclusion one can come to is that you read minds.

Glenn, I was talking about in the past.

[bcoach]

apst89 in addition to them being bigger and faster you have hit the nail on the head. I wish I could say what I am really thinking but the majority on the board would go into cardiac arrest.

[EastHallApp]

I think we were out-prepared by Miami. While we were focusing on having the biggest game ever in KBS, they were focusing on finding and exploiting weaknesses. It's my opinion that everyone in our program from the head coach down to the water boy got caught up in the hype of having The U coming to Boone and didn't focus as much on the game itself. We paid dearly for that lack of focus. I don't understand why some folks think it is sacrilege to say that. It was a learning experience for the whole program. I'm willing to bet it won't happen again.

I don't think it's sacrilege, I just think it seems like sort of a coping mechanism. Fans would rather say their team wasn't focused, was outcoached, was too hyped, or whatever else, than just say "we aren't as good as that team."

Do you really think App's players and coaches didn't try to find and exploit weaknesses that Miami had? When you say we were "focusing on having the biggest game ever in KBS," what specifically did we do that precluded our team from focusing on the game? The pep rally? The skydiver? The extra seating? Do you think the staff reduced time for film study or practice time in favor of the pageantry?

Is it possible that all the hype served as a distraction for our players? I guess so. But mainly I think they just came with the type of athletes we don't see very often and made us pay for mistakes that we'd probably get away with vs. Sun Belt opponents.

[AtlAppMan]

EastHall,

Everybody will agree that roster wide The U has more talent than App. However conceding that fact doesn't excuse our overall lack of performance that day. They were better prepared both game wise and mentally than we were. In contrast, we were IMO better prepared against UT. Anybody watching both games should have come away with the same conclusion. The eternal question is did you play to your potential? The answer against The U was NO.

I state for the record all of our team got caught up in the moment. We played UT tough and could have won. I think that led to us getting overconfident and probably led to The U performance. I am critical of what we did because I believed that we could do better than we did. As I said earlier in thread I think our entire team and staff will learn from situation and probably not repeat that mistake again in the near future.

[EastHallApp]

I agree we didn't play our best vs. Miami. I am skeptical of the suggestion that it was primarily because the team was somehow "not focused" on the game, or too hyped up, or because we held a pep rally that three players attended, or whatever else was going on around the periphery of the game.

I am not sure what mistakes in preparation the staff will not repeat in the future, but to the extent they can learn from that game and do better next time, I certainly hope they will.

[appst89]

I think we were out-prepared by Miami. While we were focusing on having the biggest game ever in KBS, they were focusing on finding and exploiting weaknesses. It's my opinion that everyone in our program from the head coach down to the water boy got caught up in the hype of having The U coming to Boone and didn't focus as much on the game itself. We paid dearly for that lack of focus. I don't understand why some folks think it is sacrilege to say that. It was a learning experience for the whole program. I'm willing to bet it won't happen again.

I don't think it's sacrilege, I just think it seems like sort of a coping mechanism. Fans would rather say their team wasn't focused, was outcoached, was too hyped, or whatever else, than just say "we aren't as good as that team."

Do you really think App's players and coaches didn't try to find and exploit weaknesses that Miami had? When you say we were "focusing on having the biggest game ever in KBS," what specifically did we do that precluded our team from focusing on the game? The pep rally? The skydiver? The extra seating? Do you think the staff reduced time for film study or practice time in favor of the pageantry?

Is it possible that all the hype served as a distraction for our players? I guess so. But mainly I think they just came with the type of athletes we don't see very often and made us pay for mistakes that we'd probably get away with vs. Sun Belt opponents.

I have no problem saying we weren't as good as Miami. I don't think saying that and saying we were not as well prepared as usual are mutually exclusive.

Yes, I do believe the pageantry and all the extra hype were a distraction to the coaches and the players leading up to that game. I don't think any of them intentionally did less to prepare, but I think the whole program was caught up in the spectacle. I thought it was pretty clear in the days before the game that we were paying too much attention to all the noise. I'm not saying that to place blame. It was a learning experience. A program doesn't get to where we want to go without having to learn some lessons. I am confident that it won't happen again.

[NewApp]

I think we were out-prepared by Miami. While we were focusing on having the biggest game ever in KBS, they were focusing on finding and exploiting weaknesses. It's my opinion that everyone in our program from the head coach down to the water boy got caught up in the hype of having The U coming to Boone and didn't focus as much on the game itself. We paid dearly for that lack of focus. I don't understand why some folks think it is sacrilege to say that. It was a learning experience for the whole program. I'm willing to bet it won't happen again.

I don't think it's sacrilege, I just think it seems like sort of a coping mechanism. Fans would rather say their team wasn't focused, was outcoached, was too hyped, or whatever else, than just say "we aren't as good as that team."

Do you really think App's players and coaches didn't try to find and exploit weaknesses that Miami had? When you say we were "focusing on having the biggest game ever in KBS," what specifically did we do that precluded our team from focusing on the game? The pep rally? The skydiver? The extra seating? Do you think the staff reduced time for film study or practice time in favor of the pageantry?

Is it possible that all the hype served as a distraction for our players? I guess so. But mainly I think they just came with the type of athletes we don't see very often and made us pay for mistakes that we'd probably get away with vs. Sun Belt opponents.

Spot on and thank you for your post.

[T-Dog]

As UKappfan points out --- "Miami kept throwing quick throws to their very fast WRs and we just could not adjust or stop it. Then when we finally stopped that, they hit us deep. They were too fast and had a simply game plan that worked. " Thus my question to TDog about defining your meaning of out-coached - Does UK's example mean Coach Satterfield was out-coached? It does not to me, to me it states that a good coach with overwhelming talent used that talent properly - Please tell me how that means Satterfield was out-coached? - What great coaching ideas would you have passed onto him if you were up in the box that day?

I love the defense of "if you're so smart, why don't you put on a headset!" How dare us be fans and how dare us care so much!

As far as UK's example, yes it does show one example of Satt being out-coached vs Richt. You obviously don't agree with that because you feel that Miami's talent nullifies coaching. In football, coaching means more than any other sport. Every detail of a play has carefully constructed by coaching staffs. It's all coaching because they put the players in the positions to use their talent.

Satt said after Miami that it was big plays, too many penalties and not getting in an offensive groove that cost App. Penalties go back to coaching. Satt is the offensive play caller and he couldn't find the right groove.

Further, you're taking my criticism of Satt way too extreme. In the last two-plus seasons, I feel that Satt has been out-coached exactly once, and it was Miami. Even versus Clemson, it was Taylor's having a horrible six plays that set the wheels of destruction in motion more than anything.

[WVAPPeer]

"I love the defense of "if you're so smart, why don't you put on a headset!" How dare us be fans and how dare us care so much!"
I did not say that ---
However, if you think he was out-coached then you must have some thoughts on what could have been done differently? - Stupid penalties can come back on the coach, however every play in every football game we watch there could be at least one penalty called - sometimes they are called, sometimes they are not - That can be either good or bad for us APP fans on that given play - Not getting into a flow on offense had a lot to do with losing Marcus in the first quarter and a hell of a lot to do with the players on the other side of the ball - Big plays, like the couple of long passes Miami completed our guys had solid coverage, they were perfectly thrown passes by a QB now in the NFL and great catches by receivers who are now or will be in the NFL ---

[Longrifle28]

Combination of all of the above.

Miami had more talent. We were extremely tight (caught up in the moment) and did not react well. Mark Richt coached the game like he wasn't going to be made an example. They game planned us not to only have to rely on better talent.

[EastHallApp]

Interesting how Satt "couldn't find the right groove" in playcalling not only against Miami, but also Tennessee and Clemson. Bad luck for us that he's always getting outcoached against the teams with a bunch of future pros on D.

[appst89]

Interesting how Satt "couldn't find the right groove" in playcalling not only against Miami, but also Tennessee and Clemson. Bad luck for us that he's always getting outcoached against the teams with a bunch of future pros on D.

I think his playcalling against Tennessee was about as good as it could have been. I think we executed the gameplan perfectly against them.

[EastHallApp]

Interesting how Satt "couldn't find the right groove" in playcalling not only against Miami, but also Tennessee and Clemson. Bad luck for us that he's always getting outcoached against the teams with a bunch of future pros on D.

I think his playcalling against Tennessee was about as good as it could have been. I think we executed the gameplan perfectly against them.

And yet we scored three more points against them than we did against Miami, even with the benefit of the muffed punt and an OT session. Which kind of underscores my point, I think.

[appst89]

Interesting how Satt "couldn't find the right groove" in playcalling not only against Miami, but also Tennessee and Clemson. Bad luck for us that he's always getting outcoached against the teams with a bunch of future pros on D.

I think his playcalling against Tennessee was about as good as it could have been. I think we executed the gameplan perfectly against them.

And yet we scored three more points against them than we did against Miami, even with the benefit of the muffed punt and an OT session. Which kind of underscores my point, I think.

I think it also underscores my point earlier about preparation.

[AtlAppMan]

https://athlonsports.com/college-footba ... edule-2017

We rank in the middle of the schedule for UGA's 2017 schedule strength. Not bad for us to be considered mid-level for an SEC schedule.

[Appstate88]

We've had great back to back seasons. I expect us to compete for the Sunbelt title again this year. But, before we let all these accolades and preseason predictions go to our heads, here's a flashback, reality check!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oJCer6QlmRI

BTW I hated to watch this, but wanted to share to keep us grounded, humble and hungry for more.

You know every team we play this year will be trying to knock us off our goals... we must play better than the last two years to have a special season. We must continue to play with a chip on their shoulder... prepare one game at a time and give our all every down.

Go Apps! #beatgeorgia #beatwake #winthebelt

[Longrifle28]

Damn that was hard to watch. The touchdown run on their first play after stuffing the runner at the line set the tone. Hurry up, short pass, short pass, play action deep, touchdown. They made us look sluggish.

Humble, hungry, no embarrassments this year.....