Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

[SpeedkingATL]

Let's face it, a P5 contract is a game changer for any coach and their family. Let's say UL gives Satt a 5 year, $3M/per contract. That's $15M of guaranteed money which sets him and his family for life regardless of performance. Add that every competitive person wants to reach self actualization goals and reach the highest ring. I've been an executive recruiter for 25 years and for high level executives the challenge and opportunity to build or fix something is usually more important that the compensation package. I have no doubt Satt loves App and Boone but I doubt at his young age he will be satisfied to remain here...just my opinion as I don't know what drives him personally. Rather it's this year or next, rather it's UL or GaTech at some point I would expect there will be a change. The window of opportunity says its upon us as 9 or 10 or 11 wins aren't guaranteed next year.

[postalapp90]

If Satt goes I hope he leaves quick. I honestly believe Houston is waiting on App but he can't wait long. I think Houston would be an excellent pick as our next coach.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Not saying Satterfield will or will not leave, but Brohm is already at a P5 making P5 money, so this would be a lateral move. Satterfield is not making a lateral move if he goes to a P5..

True,but if you were the next in line for the offer and the guy in front of you didn't want it, would that not make you think twice about it yourself? I get your point about it being a P5 but you are giving up job security for a potential short term gig. The avg HC in D1 is 3.8 years. I don't care how much money you are making, that is a rough life. Satt knows this, so he owes it to himself to ask is it worth leaving your dream job for it.

If he's already in his dream job, why did he hire the biggest shark in the water as an agent?

On the flip side, if he hired the biggest shark in the water, why would he settle for a dumpster fire like Louisville?

This is an argument I don’t buy lol. What makes Louisville a dumpster fire other than the fact that they were bad last year?

The school as a whole is a dumpster fire. They have fired Bobby Petrino, basketball coach Rick Petino, AD Tom Jurich, the school president resigned, then they lost probably their largest booster in John Schattner of Papa Johns.

[stafford]

When Petrino reneged on Matt Colburn 48 hours before signing day, he lost a lot of support from HS coaches in NC and SC. His HS coach Tommy Knotts went public with his disgust of Petrino in backing out on Colburn and leaving the kid high and dry. Colburn ended up at Wake and made Louisville pay.

Colburn II, Matt - Season Highs (Offensive)
Statistic Value Opponent
Rushing Yards 243 vs. Louisville
Longest Rush 74 vs. Louisville
Rushing Touchdowns 3 vs. Louisville

From Steve Jones' 2015 article
Dutch Fork High School coach Tom Knotts told GoUpState.com that Bobby Petrino's Cardinals will not be welcome to recruit players at his school in the future.

" It's not right," Knotts told the site. "Louisville is only going to hurt themselves doing this. Everybody knows not just what a good player Matt is but what a good person he is. That is not the way to do business, and if that's the way to do business we don't want to deal with them. (Petrino) won't be able to recruit my school anymore, and I imagine there will be some other coaches that will say the same thing. Trust factor is just not there. They've known about these three DBs wanting to go to the NFL for weeks now. To use that as an excuse doesn't hold water with me."

[EastHallApp]

Its symbolic of their athletic program. Save the Lamar Jackson era, not much there. The city is a dump outside of churchill downs and Valhalla. (my opinion)

Since 1990:

-12 seasons with 9+ wins
-Six conference titles (3 CUSA, 3 Big East)
-Seven top 20 finishes
-Three major bowl wins (Fiesta, Orange, Sugar)
-Coaches have moved on to Oklahoma, Michigan State, the Atlanta Falcons, and Texas

[Yosef10]

Great. DG has 4 days to put together a pitch to keep him.

The only thing that will help me sleep tonight is the faith I have in DG.

Realistically, what is that? I feel like we give him everything we can afford now. We know how valuable he is and want to keep him, so if we had more to give, we would. We can’t touch 5 million/year.
If money is the driving reason, we are screwed. If a P5 challenge is the motivation, how can we compete?

I would be shocked if they offer that much. But honestly, Louisville is a dumpster fire. And the fans won't accept him. He would land a better job atter he keeps app in the top 20 next year. If instant gratification is satts thing, we are screwed. Also, brown from Troy is from KY. Went to kentucky (as did the UofL AD). UNC scared me more than this one. But I am at a coin flip at the moment to decide if he will leave.

Dude is 45 years old, nothing about this gratification is instant lol. No need to take pot shots at the guy.

[Yosef10]

So Brohm won’t leave Purdue for his alma mater but Satt will leave his alma mater for Louisville...not buying it.

Not saying Satterfield will or will not leave, but Brohm is already at a P5 making P5 money, so this would be a lateral move. Satterfield is not making a lateral move if he goes to a P5..

True,but if you were the next in line for the offer and the guy in front of you didn't want it, would that not make you think twice about it yourself? I get your point about it being a P5 but you are giving up job security for a potential short term gig. The avg HC in D1 is 3.8 years. I don't care how much money you are making, that is a rough life. Satt knows this, so he owes it to himself to ask is it worth leaving your dream job for it.

If he's already in his dream job, why did he hire the biggest shark in the water as an agent?

Fair question. The obvious conclusion that most people would jump to is that he is looking to leave. Maybe it was to hammer out the details of his last contract or review the language to ensure that he was getting what he wanted. Maybe it was so that he knew that his name would come up for future jobs and Sexton is the best at working behind the scenes to do the grunt work so that Satt can focus on coaching. Maybe he hired him to keep his name relevant while his kids finish school here and then he is open to leave. If you keep turning down jobs eventually people will quit offering you. There are a whole host of reasons why he could have hired him. People tend to gravitate to the low hanging fruit (reason for hiring him) because it takes the least amount of effort.

Lol how tired are you from the mental gymnastics? He hired Sexton for one simple reason, to find him the best job paying the most money - that ain’t App my man.

[App90]

There is more to UL right now that does not meet the eye test. How does a successful coach turn down his own school. This would be a massive rebuilding process from the foundation up. A 4-7 year plan. And from what I have been told the most UL will do is a 5 year contract right a 2 million a year. In all reality that is not enough. Remember this quote. For the next 7 years, UL will not win a NCAA college football championship. End of story. Yes they have the P5 tag but it wont happen. If Satterfield wants to go there fine. Thanks for all you did for ASU. If he wants to get caught up in the middle of that then so be it. I think Satterfield may have been offered the job. Did he say no, I don't know but UL is looking at other folks at the moment. Hate to say it but UNC would have been a better fit. Again there is something to be said if Brohm wouldn't leave and UL was willing to pay for him. Time will tell. Maybe he leaves and ASU gets Mike Houston.

[appgrad95&97]

Let's face it, a P5 contract is a game changer for any coach and their family. Let's say UL gives Satt a 5 year, $3M/per contract. That's $15M of guaranteed money which sets him and his family for life regardless of performance. Add that every competitive person wants to reach self actualization goals and reach the highest ring. I've been an executive recruiter for 25 years and for high level executives the challenge and opportunity to build or fix something is usually more important that the compensation package. I have no doubt Satt loves App and Boone but I doubt at his young age he will be satisfied to remain here...just my opinion as I don't know what drives him personally. Rather it's this year or next, rather it's UL or GaTech at some point I would expect there will be a change. The window of opportunity says its upon us as 9 or 10 or 11 wins aren't guaranteed next year.

He's not getting 3mil a year, maybe 1.5. But your point is still 100% valid.

[EastHallApp]

Let's face it, a P5 contract is a game changer for any coach and their family. Let's say UL gives Satt a 5 year, $3M/per contract. That's $15M of guaranteed money which sets him and his family for life regardless of performance. Add that every competitive person wants to reach self actualization goals and reach the highest ring. I've been an executive recruiter for 25 years and for high level executives the challenge and opportunity to build or fix something is usually more important that the compensation package. I have no doubt Satt loves App and Boone but I doubt at his young age he will be satisfied to remain here...just my opinion as I don't know what drives him personally. Rather it's this year or next, rather it's UL or GaTech at some point I would expect there will be a change. The window of opportunity says its upon us as 9 or 10 or 11 wins aren't guaranteed next year.

He's not getting 3mil a year, maybe 1.5. But your point is still 100% valid.

AAC schools pay more than $1.5. Whoever Louisville hires will certainly be closer to $3 million total, maybe more.

[BurlingtonApp]

Let's face it, a P5 contract is a game changer for any coach and their family. Let's say UL gives Satt a 5 year, $3M/per contract. That's $15M of guaranteed money which sets him and his family for life regardless of performance. Add that every competitive person wants to reach self actualization goals and reach the highest ring. I've been an executive recruiter for 25 years and for high level executives the challenge and opportunity to build or fix something is usually more important that the compensation package. I have no doubt Satt loves App and Boone but I doubt at his young age he will be satisfied to remain here...just my opinion as I don't know what drives him personally. Rather it's this year or next, rather it's UL or GaTech at some point I would expect there will be a change. The window of opportunity says its upon us as 9 or 10 or 11 wins aren't guaranteed next year.

He's not getting 3mil a year, maybe 1.5. But your point is still 100% valid.

No chance he's only getting 1.5 million. That's low AAC money.

[appgrad95&97]

0-7 v. P5s. Competitive in 3 of those games. Louisville looks at him to get him on the "cheap". He is worth more than he gets at App, but there is NO reason to pay up for him. Sorry. It would be a HUGE loss for App, but gamble for Louisville.

[appchicago]

Let's face it, a P5 contract is a game changer for any coach and their family. Let's say UL gives Satt a 5 year, $3M/per contract. That's $15M of guaranteed money which sets him and his family for life regardless of performance. Add that every competitive person wants to reach self actualization goals and reach the highest ring. I've been an executive recruiter for 25 years and for high level executives the challenge and opportunity to build or fix something is usually more important that the compensation package. I have no doubt Satt loves App and Boone but I doubt at his young age he will be satisfied to remain here...just my opinion as I don't know what drives him personally. Rather it's this year or next, rather it's UL or GaTech at some point I would expect there will be a change. The window of opportunity says its upon us as 9 or 10 or 11 wins aren't guaranteed next year.

He's not getting 3mil a year, maybe 1.5. But your point is still 100% valid.

Just so we're clear, is everyone up to date on what the Louisville job pays?

Petrino was #25 in the country for salary. $3,980,434 in salary, plus a possible $1,472,917 in bonuses. In 2017-18, he earned $869,917-- more than Satt makes--just in bonuses, and that's in a year when Louisville went 8-5, finished middle of the pack in the ACC Atlantic, and never beat a ranked team. In fact, of their 8 wins, only three were against teams that finished the year with winning records... and they all finished 7-6. They lost to Wake and BC, and lost their bowl game. And for that less-than-stellar season, Petrino earned $870k in bonuses on top of a $4m salary.

Our old pal Brian VanGorder got a raise at the beginning of this season and was (still is, I guess) making $950k a year as DC.

This is not a slight salary upgrade. Even if they cut Petrino's deal in half, it's still a massive raise.

I hope Satt stays. I really do. Even for that money, I don't know if I'd leave for Louisville at this exact moment. But don't sugarcoat the situation.

[Yosef84]

0-7 v. P5s. Competitive in 3 of those games. Louisville looks at him to get him on the "cheap". He is worth more than he gets at App, but there is NO reason to pay up for him. Sorry. It would be a HUGE loss for App, but gamble for Louisville.

That's with a team transitioning from FCS and recruiting in the SunBelt. Athletic directors are looking at him to get someone who exceeds expectations, which is exactly what Satterfield has done at App.

[Yosef84]

The attitudes of folks who think that staying at your alma mater is the primary driver in coaching decisions is just plain naïve...or at least extremely emotional. There are TONS of examples of coaches making long successful careers at schools that were rivals of their alma maters. Woody Hayes (Ohio State) graduated from Michigan. Bo Schembechler (Michigan) graduated from Ohio State. Vince Dooley (Georgia) graduated from Auburn. Pat Dye (Auburn) graduated from Georgia. Dabo Swinney (Clemson) went to Alabama...etc. etc. etc.

I'm sure these guys all had fond memories of their alma maters, but things change and careers take precedence. I find it hard to believe that anybody here would turn down a significant opportunity for career advancement that included doubling (or more) their current salary.

[EastHallApp]

0-7 v. P5s. Competitive in 3 of those games. Louisville looks at him to get him on the "cheap". He is worth more than he gets at App, but there is NO reason to pay up for him. Sorry. It would be a HUGE loss for App, but gamble for Louisville.

They probably won't offer him what they offered Brohm, but they still have to come somewhere close to market value. And for an ACC coach, that's north of $3 million.

The kind of offer you're talking about would honestly be insulting. I tend much more toward the pragmatic view on what it would take for Satt to leave, but I doubt he'd even consider taking $1.5 million at Louisville, not least of all because his agent might quit before letting him. ECU will probably pay more than that.

[appgrad95&97]

Kirby Smart makes 3.75 at Georgia.

[appchicago]

Kirby Smart makes 3.75 at Georgia.

The heck he does. He earns at least $7m a season with his latest contract. https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... extension/

Per the USA Today database, he gets $6,603,600 in base salary with a max bonus of $1,150,000, but $1,350,000 in bonuses paid in 2017-18. http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

His initial contract was $3.75m in base salary, but he made a lot more than that with bonuses and other extras.

[appgrad95&97]

Kirby Smart makes 3.75 at Georgia.

The heck he does. He earns at least $7m a season with his latest contract. https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... extension/

Per the USA Today database, he gets $6,603,600 in base salary with a max bonus of $1,150,000, but $1,350,000 in bonuses paid in 2017-18. http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

His initial contract was $3.75m in base salary, but he made a lot more than that with bonuses and other extras.

What makes you think he'll collect bonuses at Louisville? He is a very successful Sunbelt coach, but Fedora's record as Southern Miss was more impressive, he'd beaten ACC teams and won against a very good Houston team. UNC passed on him in favor of a 67 year old. I wish him nothing but the best, but he is no slamdunk.

[appchicago]

Kirby Smart makes 3.75 at Georgia.

The heck he does. He earns at least $7m a season with his latest contract. https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... extension/

Per the USA Today database, he gets $6,603,600 in base salary with a max bonus of $1,150,000, but $1,350,000 in bonuses paid in 2017-18. http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

His initial contract was $3.75m in base salary, but he made a lot more than that with bonuses and other extras.

What makes you think he'll collect bonuses at Louisville? He is a very successful Sunbelt coach, but Fedora's record as Southern Miss was more impressive, he'd beaten ACC teams and won against a very good Houston team. UNC passed on him in favor of a 67 year old. I wish him nothing but the best, but he is no slamdunk.

I never said he would. I was saying that Kirby Smart's initial contract with UGA was $3.75m, but he made a lot more with bonuses, and then once it was clear he was delivering, pretty quickly renegotiated to make at least $7m a year.

I have no idea how Satt would do at Louisville or anywhere else. No one can know that.

I will say that UNC-CH's passing on Satt in favor of Mack is in no way an indicator of Satt's ability as a coach. They do a lot of things for a lot of reasons, and I don't plan on living my life based on what the Tarholes would do.

But a team (Louisville) that paid its former coach 5 million bucks for a just-okay season isn't going to pay Satterfield or anyone else $1.5m.