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I'm tired of Clark clearly lying about injuries in his Monday press conferences and us as fans having no clue what running backs will play on Saturday until we see what number is out there.
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Kinda tired of clark in general…but yes, the RB room is extremely frustrating since that’s our deepest position group on the team.
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I have been thinking this for a couple years now but have not yet posted because I don't like the implications to any player that may be involved. However, between the loss and some drinking (some may say excessive but after what I watched I call it appropriate) I am going to post it. I have often wondered if perhaps our deep RB room is actually hurting us in a way. We seem to hear on a regular basis that one of our RBs is a no go despite being medically cleared to play and in some cases even practicing the week prior to the game. It makes me wonder if sometimes the RB sit out when not feeling 100% despite being medically cleared because they have so much faith in the rest of the room. Whereas if we truly had a featured back and the rest were unknowns, perhaps those back play when medically cleared but not feeling 100%. Nobody wants a player to play when injured or when playing could further aggravate an issue, but that is what the doctors are for and if they medically clear a player it means they are good to go and further play itself will not negatively impact the issue. I don't recall a time prior to the past 3 years (when we really started this multi head running back by rotation thing) when so many players who were medically cleared to play chose not to play or took themselves out of a game because they didn't feel like they were 100%. In football, players play at less than 100% and hurt all the time, the issues is not to play while injured. It seems that we have a RB room that doesn't want to play if they are not 100% even though the doctors all say it is ok to play. Now, I may be entirely wrong on this and I admit that I have no idea what any of the issues are but this happens so often that it makes me wonder what is going on.
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Interesting……AppStateNews wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:14 pmNon football injuryNattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:12 pmDidn’t even travel311neers wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:11 pmWhy no peoples today? I missed that if they talked about it.BallantyneApp wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:10 pmHe looked good against unc. Maybe he’s just hurt and shouldn’t be playingSeattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:07 pm
Like I said earlier he looks like a completely different player
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I remember being extremely surprised when both announced they would be back for the 2022 season. and thought it was a miracle when a certain one of them announced they were returningt4pizza wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:27 pmI have been thinking this for a couple years now but have not yet posted because I don't like the implications to any player that may be involved. However, between the loss and some drinking (some may say excessive but after what I watched I call it appropriate) I am going to post it. I have often wondered if perhaps our deep RB room is actually hurting us in a way. We seem to hear on a regular basis that one of our RBs is a no go despite being medically cleared to play and in some cases even practicing the week prior to the game. It makes me wonder if sometimes the RB sit out when not feeling 100% despite being medically cleared because they have so much faith in the rest of the room. Whereas if we truly had a featured back and the rest were unknowns, perhaps those back play when medically cleared but not feeling 100%. Nobody wants a player to play when injured or when playing could further aggravate an issue, but that is what the doctors are for and if they medically clear a player it means they are good to go and further play itself will not negatively impact the issue. I don't recall a time prior to the past 3 years (when we really started this multi head running back by rotation thing) when so many players who were medically cleared to play chose not to play or took themselves out of a game because they didn't feel like they were 100%. In football, players play at less than 100% and hurt all the time, the issues is not to play while injured. It seems that we have a RB room that doesn't want to play if they are not 100% even though the doctors all say it is ok to play. Now, I may be entirely wrong on this and I admit that I have no idea what any of the issues are but this happens so often that it makes me wonder what is going on.
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They should both ride the pine for the rest of the season.311neers wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:32 pmI remember being extremely surprised when both announced they would be back for this year. Honestly thought it was a miracle when one of them announced they were staying putt4pizza wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:27 pmI have been thinking this for a couple years now but have not yet posted because I don't like the implications to any player that may be involved. However, between the loss and some drinking (some may say excessive but after what I watched I call it appropriate) I am going to post it. I have often wondered if perhaps our deep RB room is actually hurting us in a way. We seem to hear on a regular basis that one of our RBs is a no go despite being medically cleared to play and in some cases even practicing the week prior to the game. It makes me wonder if sometimes the RB sit out when not feeling 100% despite being medically cleared because they have so much faith in the rest of the room. Whereas if we truly had a featured back and the rest were unknowns, perhaps those back play when medically cleared but not feeling 100%. Nobody wants a player to play when injured or when playing could further aggravate an issue, but that is what the doctors are for and if they medically clear a player it means they are good to go and further play itself will not negatively impact the issue. I don't recall a time prior to the past 3 years (when we really started this multi head running back by rotation thing) when so many players who were medically cleared to play chose not to play or took themselves out of a game because they didn't feel like they were 100%. In football, players play at less than 100% and hurt all the time, the issues is not to play while injured. It seems that we have a RB room that doesn't want to play if they are not 100% even though the doctors all say it is ok to play. Now, I may be entirely wrong on this and I admit that I have no idea what any of the issues are but this happens so often that it makes me wonder what is going on.
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Not that it decided the game but what's the logic on going for it on 4th down the first drive? And I basically knew after Noel came up short on 3rd down they would give it to him again. Seen it way too many times in recent years. Brice isn't a threat to run so you crowd the box and even if it's play action you've got enough pressure to force a tough pass.
Play call aside, why risk giving an offense that just drove down the field the ball back with a short field that early in the game?
Play call aside, why risk giving an offense that just drove down the field the ball back with a short field that early in the game?
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Stop with that nonsense. Every person deals with injuries different. A twisted ankle to me may be tolerable, but not to everyone. Likewise, a strained AC joint may hurt like hell to me and not others.yosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:33 pmThey should both ride the pine for the rest of the season.311neers wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:32 pmI remember being extremely surprised when both announced they would be back for this year. Honestly thought it was a miracle when one of them announced they were staying putt4pizza wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:27 pmI have been thinking this for a couple years now but have not yet posted because I don't like the implications to any player that may be involved. However, between the loss and some drinking (some may say excessive but after what I watched I call it appropriate) I am going to post it. I have often wondered if perhaps our deep RB room is actually hurting us in a way. We seem to hear on a regular basis that one of our RBs is a no go despite being medically cleared to play and in some cases even practicing the week prior to the game. It makes me wonder if sometimes the RB sit out when not feeling 100% despite being medically cleared because they have so much faith in the rest of the room. Whereas if we truly had a featured back and the rest were unknowns, perhaps those back play when medically cleared but not feeling 100%. Nobody wants a player to play when injured or when playing could further aggravate an issue, but that is what the doctors are for and if they medically clear a player it means they are good to go and further play itself will not negatively impact the issue. I don't recall a time prior to the past 3 years (when we really started this multi head running back by rotation thing) when so many players who were medically cleared to play chose not to play or took themselves out of a game because they didn't feel like they were 100%. In football, players play at less than 100% and hurt all the time, the issues is not to play while injured. It seems that we have a RB room that doesn't want to play if they are not 100% even though the doctors all say it is ok to play. Now, I may be entirely wrong on this and I admit that I have no idea what any of the issues are but this happens so often that it makes me wonder what is going on.
Also, Cam's injury was nothing he could prevent.
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Too many going for it on 4th and not getting it and too many leaving points on the board because we don't kick a field goal and don't make the first down. I know we have converted some TDs in those situations, but we have left a lot of points on the board that may have changed the game had we take a FG. Hell, if we kick the first one in the third quarter we get three and they don't get a pick 6. That is a 9 point turn around, no telling how tense Tesas State may get in that situation, especially when the team has never beaten us before. I like to gamble sometimes, but when I lose too much, I start to play it safe. Coach Clark doesn't seem to do that, at least not so far this season./\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:37 pmNot that it decided the game but what's the logic on going for it on 4th down the first drive? And I basically knew after Noel came up short on 3rd down they would give it to him again. Seen it way too many times in recent years. Brice isn't a threat to run so you crowd the box and even if it's play action you've got enough pressure to force a tough pass.
Play call aside, why risk giving an offense that just drove down the field the ball back with a short field that early in the game?
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I can understand some decisions later in the game on the other team's side of the fields, but first quarter from their own 40!?!?!t4pizza wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:43 pmToo many going for it on 4th and not getting it and too many leaving points on the board because we don't kick a field goal and don't make the first down. I know we have converted some TDs in those situations, but we have left a lot of points on the board that may have changed the game had we take a FG. Hell, if we kick the first one in the third quarter we get three and they don't get a pick 6. That is a 9 point turn around, no telling how tense Tesas State may get in that situation, especially when the team has never beaten us before. I like to gamble sometimes, but when I lose too much, I start to play it safe. Coach Clark doesn't seem to do that, at least not so far this season./\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:37 pmNot that it decided the game but what's the logic on going for it on 4th down the first drive? And I basically knew after Noel came up short on 3rd down they would give it to him again. Seen it way too many times in recent years. Brice isn't a threat to run so you crowd the box and even if it's play action you've got enough pressure to force a tough pass.
Play call aside, why risk giving an offense that just drove down the field the ball back with a short field that early in the game?
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When does the defense of this team and staff stop? We are ass.AppStateNews wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:41 pmStop with that nonsense. Every person deals with injuries different. A twisted ankle to me may be tolerable, but not to everyone. Likewise, a strained AC joint may hurt like hell to me and not others.yosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:33 pmThey should both ride the pine for the rest of the season.311neers wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:32 pmI remember being extremely surprised when both announced they would be back for this year. Honestly thought it was a miracle when one of them announced they were staying putt4pizza wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:27 pmI have been thinking this for a couple years now but have not yet posted because I don't like the implications to any player that may be involved. However, between the loss and some drinking (some may say excessive but after what I watched I call it appropriate) I am going to post it. I have often wondered if perhaps our deep RB room is actually hurting us in a way. We seem to hear on a regular basis that one of our RBs is a no go despite being medically cleared to play and in some cases even practicing the week prior to the game. It makes me wonder if sometimes the RB sit out when not feeling 100% despite being medically cleared because they have so much faith in the rest of the room. Whereas if we truly had a featured back and the rest were unknowns, perhaps those back play when medically cleared but not feeling 100%. Nobody wants a player to play when injured or when playing could further aggravate an issue, but that is what the doctors are for and if they medically clear a player it means they are good to go and further play itself will not negatively impact the issue. I don't recall a time prior to the past 3 years (when we really started this multi head running back by rotation thing) when so many players who were medically cleared to play chose not to play or took themselves out of a game because they didn't feel like they were 100%. In football, players play at less than 100% and hurt all the time, the issues is not to play while injured. It seems that we have a RB room that doesn't want to play if they are not 100% even though the doctors all say it is ok to play. Now, I may be entirely wrong on this and I admit that I have no idea what any of the issues are but this happens so often that it makes me wonder what is going on.
Also, Cam's injury was nothing he could prevent.
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We’ve had almost 3 years of data to show Clark is just a guy. Nice, but shouldn’t be a head coach. He has no idea what he’s doing. Hope Doug is looking now before we have 3 years of this in a row and no coach worth a damn wants to come here./\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:37 pmNot that it decided the game but what's the logic on going for it on 4th down the first drive? And I basically knew after Noel came up short on 3rd down they would give it to him again. Seen it way too many times in recent years. Brice isn't a threat to run so you crowd the box and even if it's play action you've got enough pressure to force a tough pass.
Play call aside, why risk giving an offense that just drove down the field the ball back with a short field that early in the game?
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If saying players that haven't been healthy all year shouldn't ride pine for the rest of the season means I'm defending the team and staff, then cool. But that's not what was said at all.yosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:50 pmWhen does the defense of this team and staff stop? We are ass.AppStateNews wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:41 pmStop with that nonsense. Every person deals with injuries different. A twisted ankle to me may be tolerable, but not to everyone. Likewise, a strained AC joint may hurt like hell to me and not others.yosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:33 pmThey should both ride the pine for the rest of the season.311neers wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:32 pmI remember being extremely surprised when both announced they would be back for this year. Honestly thought it was a miracle when one of them announced they were staying putt4pizza wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:27 pmI have been thinking this for a couple years now but have not yet posted because I don't like the implications to any player that may be involved. However, between the loss and some drinking (some may say excessive but after what I watched I call it appropriate) I am going to post it. I have often wondered if perhaps our deep RB room is actually hurting us in a way. We seem to hear on a regular basis that one of our RBs is a no go despite being medically cleared to play and in some cases even practicing the week prior to the game. It makes me wonder if sometimes the RB sit out when not feeling 100% despite being medically cleared because they have so much faith in the rest of the room. Whereas if we truly had a featured back and the rest were unknowns, perhaps those back play when medically cleared but not feeling 100%. Nobody wants a player to play when injured or when playing could further aggravate an issue, but that is what the doctors are for and if they medically clear a player it means they are good to go and further play itself will not negatively impact the issue. I don't recall a time prior to the past 3 years (when we really started this multi head running back by rotation thing) when so many players who were medically cleared to play chose not to play or took themselves out of a game because they didn't feel like they were 100%. In football, players play at less than 100% and hurt all the time, the issues is not to play while injured. It seems that we have a RB room that doesn't want to play if they are not 100% even though the doctors all say it is ok to play. Now, I may be entirely wrong on this and I admit that I have no idea what any of the issues are but this happens so often that it makes me wonder what is going on.
Also, Cam's injury was nothing he could prevent.
Shit is happening. Shit has to change. Nobody is happy right now. But definitively benching players that aren't healthy at this moment in time is also not the answer.
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Any idea how serious the injury to Cam is? Was the amazing Citadel run the last we see?AppStateNews wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:59 pmIf saying players that haven't been healthy all year shouldn't ride pine for the rest of the season means I'm defending the team and staff, then cool. But that's not what was said at all.yosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:50 pmWhen does the defense of this team and staff stop? We are ass.AppStateNews wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:41 pmStop with that nonsense. Every person deals with injuries different. A twisted ankle to me may be tolerable, but not to everyone. Likewise, a strained AC joint may hurt like hell to me and not others.
Also, Cam's injury was nothing he could prevent.
Shit is happening. Shit has to change. Nobody is happy right now. But definitively benching players that aren't healthy at this moment in time is also not the answer.
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FR. Wasn’t cams last touch like a 69 yard TD? Some of us are in serious denial.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:04 amAny idea how serious the injury to Cam is? Was the amazing Citadel run the last we see?AppStateNews wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:59 pmIf saying players that haven't been healthy all year shouldn't ride pine for the rest of the season means I'm defending the team and staff, then cool. But that's not what was said at all.yosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:50 pmWhen does the defense of this team and staff stop? We are ass.AppStateNews wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:41 pmStop with that nonsense. Every person deals with injuries different. A twisted ankle to me may be tolerable, but not to everyone. Likewise, a strained AC joint may hurt like hell to me and not others.
Also, Cam's injury was nothing he could prevent.
Shit is happening. Shit has to change. Nobody is happy right now. But definitively benching players that aren't healthy at this moment in time is also not the answer.
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Not trying to be combative, but how would him being more transparent about injuries help the team? At least in press conferences?
Wouldn’t it make sense for him to be purposely ambiguous to make it more difficult for the opposition to game plan?
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I don't know how serious. I do know what caused it, but it hasn't been released yet so I won't release it.yosef69 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:07 amFR. Wasn’t cams last touch like a 69 yard TD? Some of us are in serious denial.ASUFan4863 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 12:04 amAny idea how serious the injury to Cam is? Was the amazing Citadel run the last we see?AppStateNews wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:59 pmIf saying players that haven't been healthy all year shouldn't ride pine for the rest of the season means I'm defending the team and staff, then cool. But that's not what was said at all.yosef69 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:50 pmWhen does the defense of this team and staff stop? We are ass.AppStateNews wrote: ↑Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:41 pm
Stop with that nonsense. Every person deals with injuries different. A twisted ankle to me may be tolerable, but not to everyone. Likewise, a strained AC joint may hurt like hell to me and not others.
Also, Cam's injury was nothing he could prevent.
Shit is happening. Shit has to change. Nobody is happy right now. But definitively benching players that aren't healthy at this moment in time is also not the answer.
There wasn't anything he could do about it.
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