What has Clark done right

[Black Saturday]

People want names, I'll throw 2 out. Justin Fuente. The other, more realistic name: Jerry Mack.

A hybrid of Jerry Moore and Mack Brown?

[AppStFan1]

As a whole when you read averything on this board and not just this subject, All I can say is thank the good lord above we on this board don't make any decisions.

Some of them are crazy. Have to let this play out. Maybe someone doubts Shawn or staff and that’s fine but nobody is getting fired now. Have to let this season play out. He is in a very tough spot now but his fate is not, and should not be sealed now. If he goes 3-3 or 4-2 with rest of schedule though there will be a conversation. Gillin definitely isn’t doing anything now. Amazes me we have some who think he should. Shawn has a chance here to get things on the right track.

Agree it would be crazy to do anything during the season. It’s not what this program is about. If however Clark doesn’t turn on the afterburners expect him to be history at seasons end. Performance based business and he isn’t cutting it.

I fully expect him to be gone if he goes 6-6. We have boosters who have the money, and are willing to spend it, to pay the buyout. There are some issues that could arise from that but after vastly under-performing last year I understand why some would want to. Had we gone 8-4 or 9-3 last year I think he would have more leash but we did not.

I have doubts that we turn it around this year but people have to understand that we have to see it play out. I think it is possible to turn it around because we do have some talent. I will say that at times when it looks like we don't have the speed or there is busted coverage that I don't think it is speed but instead players still learning the system.

[DenverOfTheEast]

As a whole when you read averything on this board and not just this subject, All I can say is thank the good lord above we on this board don't make any decisions.

Some of them are crazy. Have to let this play out. Maybe someone doubts Shawn or staff and that’s fine but nobody is getting fired now. Have to let this season play out. He is in a very tough spot now but his fate is not, and should not be sealed now. If he goes 3-3 or 4-2 with rest of schedule though there will be a conversation. Gillin definitely isn’t doing anything now. Amazes me we have some who think he should. Shawn has a chance here to get things on the right track.

Agree it would be crazy to do anything during the season. It’s not what this program is about. If however Clark doesn’t turn on the afterburners expect him to be history at seasons end. Performance based business and he isn’t cutting it.

I fully expect him to be gone if he goes 6-6. We have boosters who have the money, and are willing to spend it, to pay the buyout. There are some issues that could arise from that but after vastly under-performing last year I understand why some would want to. Had we gone 8-4 or 9-3 last year I think he would have more leash but we did not.

I have doubts that we turn it around this year but people have to understand that we have to see it play out. I think it is possible to turn it around because we do have some talent. I will say that at times when it looks like we don't have the speed or there is busted coverage that I don't think it is speed but instead players still learning the system.

If Clark finishes 6-6 goes to a Bowl and the 6 losses are all close games, he should be the coach in 2024. How do you push a guy out with a OVERALL WINNNG RECORD and 3 Bowl appearances if that does happen.

I predict wins over ODU, SO Miss, Marshall and Ga State. Losses to Stink and JMU.

7-5 and I will be "happier than a tornado in trailer park" (movie quote if your kids are under 15 you understand)

[Saint3333]

I hope the goal posts don't shift any further this season...

[yosef69]

As a whole when you read averything on this board and not just this subject, All I can say is thank the good lord above we on this board don't make any decisions.

Some of them are crazy. Have to let this play out. Maybe someone doubts Shawn or staff and that’s fine but nobody is getting fired now. Have to let this season play out. He is in a very tough spot now but his fate is not, and should not be sealed now. If he goes 3-3 or 4-2 with rest of schedule though there will be a conversation. Gillin definitely isn’t doing anything now. Amazes me we have some who think he should. Shawn has a chance here to get things on the right track.

Agree it would be crazy to do anything during the season. It’s not what this program is about. If however Clark doesn’t turn on the afterburners expect him to be history at seasons end. Performance based business and he isn’t cutting it.

I fully expect him to be gone if he goes 6-6. We have boosters who have the money, and are willing to spend it, to pay the buyout. There are some issues that could arise from that but after vastly under-performing last year I understand why some would want to. Had we gone 8-4 or 9-3 last year I think he would have more leash but we did not.

I have doubts that we turn it around this year but people have to understand that we have to see it play out. I think it is possible to turn it around because we do have some talent. I will say that at times when it looks like we don't have the speed or there is busted coverage that I don't think it is speed but instead players still learning the system.

If Clark finishes 6-6 goes to a Bowl and the 6 losses are all close games, he should be the coach in 2024. How do you push a guy out with a OVERALL WINNNG RECORD and 3 Bowl appearances if that does happen.

I predict wins over ODU, SO Miss, Marshall and Ga State. Losses to Stink and JMU.

7-5 and I will be "happier than a tornado in trailer park" (movie quote if your kids are under 15 you understand)

You and I both know that he’s gone at 6-6 and possibly even 7-5. I think his odds of being the coach next season are in the 25% range at this moment.

[Black Saturday]

Some of them are crazy. Have to let this play out. Maybe someone doubts Shawn or staff and that’s fine but nobody is getting fired now. Have to let this season play out. He is in a very tough spot now but his fate is not, and should not be sealed now. If he goes 3-3 or 4-2 with rest of schedule though there will be a conversation. Gillin definitely isn’t doing anything now. Amazes me we have some who think he should. Shawn has a chance here to get things on the right track.

Agree it would be crazy to do anything during the season. It’s not what this program is about. If however Clark doesn’t turn on the afterburners expect him to be history at seasons end. Performance based business and he isn’t cutting it.

I fully expect him to be gone if he goes 6-6. We have boosters who have the money, and are willing to spend it, to pay the buyout. There are some issues that could arise from that but after vastly under-performing last year I understand why some would want to. Had we gone 8-4 or 9-3 last year I think he would have more leash but we did not.

I have doubts that we turn it around this year but people have to understand that we have to see it play out. I think it is possible to turn it around because we do have some talent. I will say that at times when it looks like we don't have the speed or there is busted coverage that I don't think it is speed but instead players still learning the system.

If Clark finishes 6-6 goes to a Bowl and the 6 losses are all close games, he should be the coach in 2024. How do you push a guy out with a OVERALL WINNNG RECORD and 3 Bowl appearances if that does happen.

I predict wins over ODU, SO Miss, Marshall and Ga State. Losses to Stink and JMU.

7-5 and I will be "happier than a tornado in trailer park" (movie quote if your kids are under 15 you understand)

You and I both know that he’s gone at 6-6 and possibly even 7-5. I think his odds of being the coach next season are in the 25% range at this moment.

I'm certainly not a fan of beig a perennial .500 program, but objectively there is improvement over last year. Considering all the negatives of a firing and hiring and doldrums of that process with no guarantee of imediate succcess - Clark is our coach unless he's sub .500 this season

[AppStFan1]

As a whole when you read averything on this board and not just this subject, All I can say is thank the good lord above we on this board don't make any decisions.

Some of them are crazy. Have to let this play out. Maybe someone doubts Shawn or staff and that’s fine but nobody is getting fired now. Have to let this season play out. He is in a very tough spot now but his fate is not, and should not be sealed now. If he goes 3-3 or 4-2 with rest of schedule though there will be a conversation. Gillin definitely isn’t doing anything now. Amazes me we have some who think he should. Shawn has a chance here to get things on the right track.

Agree it would be crazy to do anything during the season. It’s not what this program is about. If however Clark doesn’t turn on the afterburners expect him to be history at seasons end. Performance based business and he isn’t cutting it.

I fully expect him to be gone if he goes 6-6. We have boosters who have the money, and are willing to spend it, to pay the buyout. There are some issues that could arise from that but after vastly under-performing last year I understand why some would want to. Had we gone 8-4 or 9-3 last year I think he would have more leash but we did not.

I have doubts that we turn it around this year but people have to understand that we have to see it play out. I think it is possible to turn it around because we do have some talent. I will say that at times when it looks like we don't have the speed or there is busted coverage that I don't think it is speed but instead players still learning the system.

If Clark finishes 6-6 goes to a Bowl and the 6 losses are all close games, he should be the coach in 2024. How do you push a guy out with a OVERALL WINNNG RECORD and 3 Bowl appearances if that does happen.

I predict wins over ODU, SO Miss, Marshall and Ga State. Losses to Stink and JMU.

7-5 and I will be "happier than a tornado in trailer park" (movie quote if your kids are under 15 you understand)

I am not saying this is my opinion but simply that it is very likely a repeat of 6-6 would make the people who make this program run financially to make the move to pay his buyout.

We have the talent to win every game we play but if we play like we did against CCU, defense against ULM, and Wyoming we probably do go 3-3 or 2-4 in the final 6. If we play to our potential I think we go 5-1 or 6-0 in the final 6. We have to lower the mistakes for us to go 5-1 or 6-0 though. This final stretch is very difficult.

[AppStFan1]

Agree it would be crazy to do anything during the season. It’s not what this program is about. If however Clark doesn’t turn on the afterburners expect him to be history at seasons end. Performance based business and he isn’t cutting it.

I fully expect him to be gone if he goes 6-6. We have boosters who have the money, and are willing to spend it, to pay the buyout. There are some issues that could arise from that but after vastly under-performing last year I understand why some would want to. Had we gone 8-4 or 9-3 last year I think he would have more leash but we did not.

I have doubts that we turn it around this year but people have to understand that we have to see it play out. I think it is possible to turn it around because we do have some talent. I will say that at times when it looks like we don't have the speed or there is busted coverage that I don't think it is speed but instead players still learning the system.

If Clark finishes 6-6 goes to a Bowl and the 6 losses are all close games, he should be the coach in 2024. How do you push a guy out with a OVERALL WINNNG RECORD and 3 Bowl appearances if that does happen.

I predict wins over ODU, SO Miss, Marshall and Ga State. Losses to Stink and JMU.

7-5 and I will be "happier than a tornado in trailer park" (movie quote if your kids are under 15 you understand)

You and I both know that he’s gone at 6-6 and possibly even 7-5. I think his odds of being the coach next season are in the 25% range at this moment.

I'm certainly not a fan of beig a perennial .500 program, but objectively there is improvement over last year. Considering all the negatives of a firing and hiring and doldrums of that process with no guarantee of imediate succcess - Clark is our coach unless he's sub .500 this season

If we go .500 I firmly believe that the boosters will make a change. Right now I will be very happy if we go 7-5 but the way we have played so far I am mentally prepared to finish 5-7 right now. We have seen some improvement and I am hopeful we see it but we have to beat ODU and Southern Miss or I fear we might be looking at 4-8 or 5-7.

[AppState89]

Then we get a new coach which means new OC and DC, most likely. When that coach wins 9+ games, he moves to a P5 school. We then get another new coach along with new OC and DC. They cycle will continue forever as coaches will always move to a P5 school, which means a crap more $$$$. It's a fine line when you are a good/great G5 program.

[AppState89]

Then we get a new coach which means new OC and DC, most likely. When that coach wins 9+ games, he moves to a P5 school. We then get another new coach along with new OC and DC. They cycle will continue forever as coaches will always move to a P5 school, for more $$$$. It's a fine line when you are a good/great G5 program.

[Rekdiver]

I dont know about SC but this is stellar by Deion:

[app_gorilla]

Then we get a new coach which means new OC and DC, most likely. When that coach wins 9+ games, he moves to a P5 school. We then get another new coach along with new OC and DC. They cycle will continue forever as coaches will always move to a P5 school, which means a crap more $$$$. It's a fine line when you are a good/great G5 program.

At least those SEC/ACC programs will be giving us some nice $$$ for the buyout.

[appstate24]

I dont know about SC but this is stellar by Deion:

Behind all the flashy “Prime Time” stuff is a really good man. He got on my nerves at first, but I blame the media for forcing it down our throats. I have since warmed up to him.
He has used this platform to not only help these young men and his team, but to also put out a positive message. A message filled with truth and life lessons. A message that cuts through a lot of the BS we hear today.

[bcoach]

Then we get a new coach which means new OC and DC, most likely. When that coach wins 9+ games, he moves to a P5 school. We then get another new coach along with new OC and DC. They cycle will continue forever as coaches will always move to a P5 school, which means a crap more $$$$. It's a fine line when you are a good/great G5 program.

There is a VERY big assumption there. There is no guarantee the new coach wins.

[Kafarmer]

Man, criticisms are legitimate, but hopefully constructive. Some of you on here just like to get your jollys by sounding off about how you won’t do this and how terrible things are and how smart you think you are. You’re not helping. Yea, you’ve got the right to say what you want! Freedom of speech….. keyboard warrior. Not a single one of you have any responsibility to this program. You don’t like the way things are going, whether legit or not, there’s no real effect of the decisions on you. No one’s gonna say “I’m glad we listened to <insert screen name>. We should have paid attention to him sooner!” You’re not gonna get a raise for being right or get fired for being wrong. It just amazes me.

[yosef69]

Man, criticisms are legitimate, but hopefully constructive. Some of you on here just like to get your jollys by sounding off about how you won’t do this and how terrible things are and how smart you think you are. You’re not helping. Yea, you’ve got the right to say what you want! Freedom of speech….. keyboard warrior. Not a single one of you have any responsibility to this program. You don’t like the way things are going, whether legit or not, there’s no real effect of the decisions on you. No one’s gonna say “I’m glad we listened to <insert screen name>. We should have paid attention to him sooner!” You’re not gonna get a raise for being right or get fired for being wrong. It just amazes me.

That’s the purpose of a message board, you complete goofball

[Kafarmer]

I’m sorry…… the purpose is to give you a place to vent, rant and name all. Although goofball was fairly sedate. Considering names you’ve thrown before.

[yosef69]

I’m sorry…… the purpose is to give you a place to vent, rant and name all. Although goofball was fairly sedate. Considering names you’ve thrown before.

Me? I don’t use names other than Tar Heel

[appgrad95&97]

I dont know about SC but this is stellar by Deion:

Forget football, forget App, if you can't respect that, come on.

[yosef69]

I dont know about SC but this is stellar by Deion:

Behind all the flashy “Prime Time” stuff is a really good man. He got on my nerves at first, but I blame the media for forcing it down our throats. I have since warmed up to him.
He has used this platform to not only help these young men and his team, but to also put out a positive message. A message filled with truth and life lessons. A message that cuts through a lot of the BS we hear today.

Deion has always been a good guy. He was good enough to be flashy and that doesn’t just go away.