Candidates

[Bootsy]

If we get to 5 wins or better, coach stays on for 2025. Helene, and everything surrounding it, has bought him a pass on this year - that's almost a given. The only way I see him being let go is if we totally go into the dumpster and only manage 2 or fewer wins the rest of the way. But if we can even tread water the rest of the season, he will get one more year.

For those of you that will stop supporting the program because of that, do us all a favor and leave now. We don't need you here.

For some reason, I also believe SC will be here in 2025...unless the team totally poops the bed down the stretch. Having said that, recruiting is gonna be a VERY steep climb for App this offseason.

[311neers]

If we get to 5 wins or better, coach stays on for 2025. Helene, and everything surrounding it, has bought him a pass on this year - that's almost a given. The only way I see him being let go is if we totally go into the dumpster and only manage 2 or fewer wins the rest of the way. But if we can even tread water the rest of the season, he will get one more year.

For those of you that will stop supporting the program because of that, do us all a favor and leave now. We don't need you here.

For some reason, I also believe SC will be here in 2025...unless the team totally poops the bed down the stretch. Having said that, recruiting is gonna be a VERY steep climb for App this offseason.

Have we not pooped the bed enough already? When does it stop? We we will get laughed at if he returns. No one will show up to the games with the deadweight energy. We gave up 52 to a runningback 3rd stringer in his 1st career start against Marshall. 48 against South Alabama. 50 against Clemson in a half. And that's just in the past month...
Do we really want to go to Boise next year? Or host a P5 school with him at the helm? I hope the RB at Boise goes to the draft or portals, he will run for 500 yards.

[ASUFan4863]

Yeah I would consider going from first to last in the conference under his helm already “pooping the bed”.

[BambooRdApp]

I cannot wait to go to Boise....the coach at App. St. may be like 1,093 down the list on why I would or would not go to Boise....so basically...did not never and would never play into that decision making process

[BallantyneApp]

If we get to 5 wins or better, coach stays on for 2025. Helene, and everything surrounding it, has bought him a pass on this year - that's almost a given. The only way I see him being let go is if we totally go into the dumpster and only manage 2 or fewer wins the rest of the way. But if we can even tread water the rest of the season, he will get one more year.

For those of you that will stop supporting the program because of that, do us all a favor and leave now. We don't need you here.

I really don’t see more than 2 wins the rest of the way anyway but I think bringing him back with only 2 years left is a big mistake. You’re essentially dooming us to mediocrity or worse because anybody with options is not going to pick the lame duck coach and I don’t think we’re extending him with this season so far. The decision needs to be to either extend him a year or two or fire him. This was the year to kick the can down the road….

[Stonewall]

He will not be extended short of running the table. My O.

[boonetodd]

I hope you are right!

[ASUFan4863]

Running the table would be extraordinary given the current performance. I do acknowledge that there are several injuries hurting us on that side of the ball that are out of Clark’s control but nothing has given me hope that Clark would be better in 2025.

[AppStFan1]

If we get to 5 wins or better, coach stays on for 2025. Helene, and everything surrounding it, has bought him a pass on this year - that's almost a given. The only way I see him being let go is if we totally go into the dumpster and only manage 2 or fewer wins the rest of the way. But if we can even tread water the rest of the season, he will get one more year.

For those of you that will stop supporting the program because of that, do us all a favor and leave now. We don't need you here.

For some reason, I also believe SC will be here in 2025...unless the team totally poops the bed down the stretch. Having said that, recruiting is gonna be a VERY steep climb for App this offseason.

Have we not pooped the bed enough already? When does it stop? We we will get laughed at if he returns. No one will show up to the games with the deadweight energy. We gave up 52 to a runningback 3rd stringer in his 1st career start against Marshall. 48 against South Alabama. 50 against Clemson in a half. And that's just in the past month...
Do we really want to go to Boise next year? Or host a P5 school with him at the helm? I hope the RB at Boise goes to the draft or portals, he will run for 500 yards.

To your comment on the Boise State RB I have no doubt he will declare early. He should be a top 25 pick, maybe higher. If he stayed I would have no doubt he would go for over 250 yards against us though. He might run for 300+.

[AppinVA]

If we get to 5 wins or better, coach stays on for 2025. Helene, and everything surrounding it, has bought him a pass on this year - that's almost a given. The only way I see him being let go is if we totally go into the dumpster and only manage 2 or fewer wins the rest of the way. But if we can even tread water the rest of the season, he will get one more year.

For those of you that will stop supporting the program because of that, do us all a favor and leave now. We don't need you here.

For some reason, I also believe SC will be here in 2025...unless the team totally poops the bed down the stretch. Having said that, recruiting is gonna be a VERY steep climb for App this offseason.

Have we not pooped the bed enough already? When does it stop? We we will get laughed at if he returns. No one will show up to the games with the deadweight energy. We gave up 52 to a runningback 3rd stringer in his 1st career start against Marshall. 48 against South Alabama. 50 against Clemson in a half. And that's just in the past month...
Do we really want to go to Boise next year? Or host a P5 school with him at the helm? I hope the RB at Boise goes to the draft or portals, he will run for 500 yards.

To your comment on the Boise State RB I have no doubt he will declare early. He should be a top 25 pick, maybe higher. If he stayed I would have no doubt he would go for over 250 yards against us though. He might run for 300+.

His replacement might do that, too.

[Yosef10]

Trei Oliver. Mike Minter.

Mike Minter has a career record of 49-66 -- that's low hanging fruit Stonewall.

You don't fire a guy with Clarks resume to hire Minter losing record.

Thoughts on Mike Jacobs from Mercer. 32-9 overall at Lenoir Rhyne, and now 5-0 at Mercer.... overall he's 79-17.

Not specific to Jacobs, but I do think this is the mold App should follow when they’re next in the market for a HC. JMU has pretty much followed it with Houston, Cignetti, and now Chesney.

[AppStFan1]

If we get to 5 wins or better, coach stays on for 2025. Helene, and everything surrounding it, has bought him a pass on this year - that's almost a given. The only way I see him being let go is if we totally go into the dumpster and only manage 2 or fewer wins the rest of the way. But if we can even tread water the rest of the season, he will get one more year.

For those of you that will stop supporting the program because of that, do us all a favor and leave now. We don't need you here.

For some reason, I also believe SC will be here in 2025...unless the team totally poops the bed down the stretch. Having said that, recruiting is gonna be a VERY steep climb for App this offseason.

Have we not pooped the bed enough already? When does it stop? We we will get laughed at if he returns. No one will show up to the games with the deadweight energy. We gave up 52 to a runningback 3rd stringer in his 1st career start against Marshall. 48 against South Alabama. 50 against Clemson in a half. And that's just in the past month...
Do we really want to go to Boise next year? Or host a P5 school with him at the helm? I hope the RB at Boise goes to the draft or portals, he will run for 500 yards.

To your comment on the Boise State RB I have no doubt he will declare early. He should be a top 25 pick, maybe higher. If he stayed I would have no doubt he would go for over 250 yards against us though. He might run for 300+.

His replacement might do that, too.

I was thinking the replacement likely won't be quite as good so maybe 150-200 range. lol

[AppOrange]

Trei Oliver. Mike Minter.

Mike Minter has a career record of 49-66 -- that's low hanging fruit Stonewall.

You don't fire a guy with Clarks resume to hire Minter losing record.

Thoughts on Mike Jacobs from Mercer. 32-9 overall at Lenoir Rhyne, and now 5-0 at Mercer.... overall he's 79-17.

Not specific to Jacobs, but I do think this is the mold App should follow when they’re next in the market for a HC. JMU has pretty much followed it with Houston, Cignetti, and now Chesney.

Winners win

[CharlotteApp05]

Interesting that Poggi was brought up. I think he extremely factors into this decision. The ECU win was eye opening for me. Does Charlotte leadership believe in him and think he is the guy who can do it? And is he the guy that can do it? Because if they hold on to him and he gets a couple more wins and they start to believe and we decide to not make any moves at the end of this year, it all will be exposed who they are and who we are in Game 1 next year in Bank of America. All offseason either retaining Clark or hiring a new coach, there is going to be serious debate and discussion.

Couple potential scenarios: We support Clark, we go into Game 1 and lose for the first time ever. Catastrophic.
We change coaches and lose: Could be written off as cupboard is bare and have to get back on track
We support Clark and he wins week 1, okay maybe we made the moves we needed to to recharge.

[Saint3333]

When UNCC is the barometer we have a problem.

[AppStFan1]

He will not be extended short of running the table. My O.

Agreed. He either has to be extended or let go though. We can't just bring him back without doing some kind of extension. I know he has two more years after this on his current deal but he would be recruiting the 2026 class next year and that class will be a total waste since he tries to recruit so early and the fact that opposing coaches will hammer home the fact that the recruits don't know who their coach will be when they arrive. I think if Shawn loses 2 more games that he has to be done because 6-5 is not enough to give him an extension and raise.

[ASU3432Mi]

There is not a 1AA.

[NewApp]

There is not a 1AA.

It's not P-5 either.

[appstatealum]

This is easily one of the biggest hires in App State football history. This hire will dictate the trajectory of our program that will have impacts short and long term.

[hapapp]

SC is ranked 35th on the Coaches Hot Seat list:
https://coacheshotseat.com/