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Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:02 am

It just seems that every time this team crosses the Mississippi to play a game they enter the Twilight Zone. As for the Moore vs SS issue, I do remember Moore's first game using the spread against a middle of the road Wyoming team in 2004 and it was worse than this one.

Lots of factors played into this one. Kids traveling across the country (many for the first time), a worthy opponent in a great home atmosphere, a new head coach, suspended superstar WR, new defensive coordinator and new defense, lots of young kids on defense, and the west of Mississippi curse.

Just need to sacrifice a couple of chickens to Jaboo and move forward to the home opener.

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Re: Moore fired for this!

Unread post by Maddog1956 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:09 am

SpeedkingATL wrote:It just seems that every time this team crosses the Mississippi to play a game they enter the Twilight Zone. As for the Moore vs SS issue, I do remember Moore's first game using the spread against a middle of the road Wyoming team in 2004 and it was worse than this one.

Lots of factors played into this one. Kids traveling across the country (many for the first time), a worthy opponent in a great home atmosphere, a new head coach, suspended superstar WR, new defensive coordinator and new defense, lots of young kids on defense, and the west of Mississippi curse.

Just need to sacrifice a couple of chickens to Jaboo and move forward to the home opener.
Plus what's wrong with a warm up game? Let's face it, the kids work hard in practice but it's not a like a real game with pressure, etc. If we played A&T first for example we would get tested without having to put it all on the line. I understand that "you only get better by playing better teams", but the whole intention of warming up is so you don't break something that hurts you later.
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Re: Moore fired for this!

Unread post by firemoose » Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:28 am

SpeedkingATL wrote:It just seems that every time this team crosses the Mississippi to play a game they enter the Twilight Zone. As for the Moore vs SS issue, I do remember Moore's first game using the spread against a middle of the road Wyoming team in 2004 and it was worse than this one.

Lots of factors played into this one. Kids traveling across the country (many for the first time), a worthy opponent in a great home atmosphere, a new head coach, suspended superstar WR, new defensive coordinator and new defense, lots of young kids on defense, and the west of Mississippi curse.

Just need to sacrifice a couple of chickens to Jaboo and move forward to the home opener.
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Unread post by JTApps1 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:49 pm

YesAppCan wrote:...and Maine
Did you have to bring that game up??? :evil:

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Unread post by Black Saturday » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:00 pm

APPSTATE-H3 wrote:I love Coach Satt. But for the love of App. Someone fire Cobb.
Dude, you need to learn some Moore about football.


The Moore regime has more to do with APP losing their last 3 football games than Cobb.
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Unread post by JCline0429 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:21 am

Black Saturday wrote:
APPSTATE-H3 wrote:I love Coach Satt. But for the love of App. Someone fire Cobb.
Dude, you need to learn some Moore about football.


The Moore regime has more to do with APP losing their last 3 football games than Cobb.

1. Satterfield was part and parcel of the Moore regime as Cobb's protege.
2. Did Moore ever do anything right in his 2 decades plus in your opinion?.
3. This is Satterfield and Woody's first year.
4. The season is still young.
5. The team hasn't had a chance to jell yet.
6. The team hasn't developed a true team leader thus far.
7. Playing the blame game is not constructive.
8. The committee concept is gone. ;)
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Unread post by WataugaMan » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:27 am

If ya'll remember I wasn't a Coach Moore fan. However, he would not have lost to A&T last night.

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Unread post by Black Saturday » Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:43 am

JCline0429 wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:
APPSTATE-H3 wrote:I love Coach Satt. But for the love of App. Someone fire Cobb.
Dude, you need to learn some Moore about football.


The Moore regime has more to do with APP losing their last 3 football games than Cobb.

1. Satterfield was part and parcel of the Moore regime as Cobb's protege.
2. Did Moore ever do anything right in his 2 decades plus in your opinion?.
3. This is Satterfield and Woody's first year.
4. The season is still young.
5. The team hasn't had a chance to jell yet.
6. The team hasn't developed a true team leader thus far.
7. Playing the blame game is not constructive.
8. The committee concept is gone. ;)


The original topic or blame was on CC, by H3. CC doesn't have eligibility left to play, CC doesn't coach, CC doesn't recruit.

Hiring and recruiting, Cline. You been around the last 2 decades to know that the right people playing and the right people coaching make all the difference in winning and losing. Since 2007 the football program has been gradually declining each year, leadership and talent wise. A couple of those years we had the talent to win more National Championship trophies. Now we are almost at the point of show me a win on our schedule? Our loss to A&T cheapens Montana's win, no doubt.
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Unread post by JCline0429 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:34 am

Yes, Cobb was the original topic, but others put the blame on Moore, including yourself. The program was in decline before Cobb came, but Moore, with the right backing from the administration, a good team of assistant coaches, hard work by all, player leadership, donor backing, the program went on to win three consecutive national FCS championships and a monumental win over one of the traditionally strongest football programs in the country. Cobb can't be blamed in present endeavors, but neither should Moore get so much endless blame. Moore wasn't perfect, but neither is Cobb, case in point: the basketball program.
Moore is gone. George Bush is gone. Let's all deal with it.
Yesterday, Satterfield faced a more experienced coach vs with a program on the rise and we still rallied to miss by three. Look at the silver lining in the storm cloud.
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Unread post by bcoach » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:05 am

JCline0429 wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:
APPSTATE-H3 wrote:I love Coach Satt. But for the love of App. Someone fire Cobb.
Dude, you need to learn some Moore about football.


The Moore regime has more to do with APP losing their last 3 football games than Cobb.

1. Satterfield was part and parcel of the Moore regime as Cobb's protege.
2. Did Moore ever do anything right in his 2 decades plus in your opinion?.
3. This is Satterfield and Woody's first year.
4. The season is still young.
5. The team hasn't had a chance to jell yet.
6. The team hasn't developed a true team leader thus far.
7. Playing the blame game is not constructive.
8. The committee concept is gone. ;)
I would not call 2 OCs and a HC calling plays the committee concept being gone.

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Re: Moore fired for this!

Unread post by hapapp » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:06 pm

With ASU having an all time number of players in the NFL is difficult to argue that we haven't had the talent. It is possible that we haven't had it the certain places and that is contributing to our woes.

I know this is a bit blasphemous but I think many folks on here underestimated A&T. They won their last 4 games of last season, were ranked in the top 5 defensively, have two preseason all-americans, and have an experienced, seasoned coach. They did what they needed to win the game last night. They forced us to start at least 7 of our drives inside the 20 yard line. So, perhaps we should give some credit to A&T for our troubles last night.

That doesn't negate any of the concerns expressed here. We have a multitude of problems right now. Good teams find ways to win those kind of games, bad teams don't. It is difficult to be patient at time like this, but we really don't have an alternative.

While the OL hasn't been stellar, it is essentially the same OL that got us to the playoffs last year. No doubt, it helps if the QB is mobile enough to make teams pay when they pressure him. The A&T QB demonstrated that last night. I don't think Kam alone is the answer to the teams problems but it would seem to be a start.

Everyone wants a scapegoat. It is Scott's fault...blame Jerry Moore...Jackson is hurt...the OL sucks. Truth be told the problems we have had the past two games go beyond one person or unit. The problems will, in part, be corrected by due diligence and hard work. We will see in two weeks whether the team is motivated enough at this point to do what needs to happen to turn things around. I know its dark right now but the most important thing we can do is to continue to be there to lend our support and encouragement.

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Unread post by TheMoody1 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:50 pm

A&T played with their #2 QB. If we would have done the same App would have won the game.

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Unread post by JCline0429 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:44 pm

bcoach wrote:
JCline0429 wrote:
Black Saturday wrote:
APPSTATE-H3 wrote:I love Coach Satt. But for the love of App. Someone fire Cobb.
Dude, you need to learn some Moore about football.


The Moore regime has more to do with APP losing their last 3 football games than Cobb.

1. Satterfield was part and parcel of the Moore regime as Cobb's protege.
2. Did Moore ever do anything right in his 2 decades plus in your opinion?.
3. This is Satterfield and Woody's first year.
4. The season is still young.
5. The team hasn't had a chance to jell yet.
6. The team hasn't developed a true team leader thus far.
7. Playing the blame game is not constructive.
8. The committee concept is gone. ;)
I would not call 2 OCs and a HC calling plays the committee concept being gone.
bc. I was not one that claimed there was something with the so called "committee" concept. I was actually being sarcastic.
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Re: Moore fired for this!

Unread post by JCline0429 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:47 pm

hapapp wrote:With ASU having an all time number of players in the NFL is difficult to argue that we haven't had the talent. It is possible that we haven't had it the certain places and that is contributing to our woes.

I know this is a bit blasphemous but I think many folks on here underestimated A&T. They won their last 4 games of last season, were ranked in the top 5 defensively, have two preseason all-americans, and have an experienced, seasoned coach. They did what they needed to win the game last night. They forced us to start at least 7 of our drives inside the 20 yard line. So, perhaps we should give some credit to A&T for our troubles last night.

That doesn't negate any of the concerns expressed here. We have a multitude of problems right now. Good teams find ways to win those kind of games, bad teams don't. It is difficult to be patient at time like this, but we really don't have an alternative.

While the OL hasn't been stellar, it is essentially the same OL that got us to the playoffs last year. No doubt, it helps if the QB is mobile enough to make teams pay when they pressure him. The A&T QB demonstrated that last night. I don't think Kam alone is the answer to the teams problems but it would seem to be a start.

Everyone wants a scapegoat. It is Scott's fault...blame Jerry Moore...Jackson is hurt...the OL sucks. Truth be told the problems we have had the past two games go beyond one person or unit. The problems will, in part, be corrected by due diligence and hard work. We will see in two weeks whether the team is motivated enough at this point to do what needs to happen to turn things around. I know its dark right now but the most important thing we can do is to continue to be there to lend our support and encouragement.
Great post and quite articulate. You relate many of the points that I have been saying. Rep point.
In some ways we were fortunate to get away with a 3 point loss.
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