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Re: Sunday Morning (Afternoon) QB ---

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:19 am

JCline - I agree with the no expansion now argument and personally I don't buy into the reason we need expansion is to attract FBS opponents - Now, sure if you are talking about the "Big Boys" but they aren't coming to Boone any decade soon anyway --- We can still get close to 35k in KBS and bleachers could be erected like the ones in the fieldhouse end zone - pack the bank and not slight our visitors - give them all the tickets they can sell - We had like 32k for an Elon game and the place was packed and loud and exciting ---
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Unread post by moonshine » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:25 am

I went back and watched the replay last night. It seemed like everytime Woody dialed up a CB blitz, USA sniffed it out and had a RB or a back and tackle both waiting to block the CB. This enabled the Jag offense to hit at least 4 plays for 30+ yards. The defense at every level, especially DB, is struggling to understand and implement the concept of contain. This has happened all season where guys crash down towards the middle only to watch the QB or RB bounce it back outside to daylight.

Definitely had some dumb costly penalties that put our offense behind the 8 ball. The one unsportsmanlike penalty we got in the 2nd half by Kennan Gilchrist has made him my new favorite player on D. After Bridge did his AE "Houdini" impression and threw that TD to the back corner, KG ripped his helmet off and let the DB (Gibbs???) have it for allowing the WR to get behind him! Of course I don't like the penalty, even when the game has more or less been decided but I loved his fire and passion.

Not sure if we have the personnel to play anyone else at DE but I'd love to see what Dada can do from either the ILB or OLB position. The way he knives through gaps makes me think he can be a force at those positions. I'm sure the knock is his lack of coverage skills but he is just too undersized to be an every-down DE IMO.

Upshaw's downhill style was more suited against the likes of the Jaguars. Cox may have had his worse game to date with the fumble on the 3rd play from scrimmage, early dropped pass and only 2 yards per carry average.

If Lamb connects on 1 of those early deep balls it could've changed the dynamic of this game. No I'm not saying App would've won but I do feel we could've hung closer than 26 against USA. I see several posters pointing to the USA v GSU game as a measuring stick. The Jaguar WR's dropped at least 8 well thrown accurate balls against the Eagles that slowed their offense down to 6 points of production.

Can anyone explain to me why the coaches continue to shuffle the OL around? There seems to be absolutely no continuity along the offensive front when the LG, C and RG are constantly changing. This absolutely makes me think the coaches are playing for the future.
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Unread post by aussie86 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:54 am

I agree on the OLine shuffling. Makes no sense....get your best out there and let them work to become better.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:21 am

building depth - rotation keeps guys fresher - guess they are evaluating each game and deciding who gets what playing time --- NOTHING BETTER THAN DAILY COMPETITION !!!
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Unread post by AppGrad78 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:29 am

The player from South Alabama who impressed me was the Jags' quarterback, Brandon Bridge. I can't remember the last time an opposing quarterback played that well at Kidd Brewer.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:37 am

AppGrad78 wrote:The player from South Alabama who impressed me was the Jags' quarterback, Brandon Bridge. I can't remember the last time an opposing quarterback played that well at Kidd Brewer.

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Absolutely 78 - he was very impressive --- Al Groh complimented him numerous times and made the comment that Bridge "had a better arm than several guys playing right now in the NFL" ---
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Unread post by moonshine » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:02 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:building depth - rotation keeps guys fresher - guess they are evaluating each game and deciding who gets what playing time --- NOTHING BETTER THAN DAILY COMPETITION !!!
I understand keeping guys fresh and competition but the rotating started with the 2nd or 3rd series where the offense had ran less than 10 plays. I'm hoping our guys don't need a breather after only a few plays or Sirignano has lots of work to do. I also get subbing in for a player who gets a false start or a penalty in general but there didn't seem like any rhyme or reason with the subs. Maybe I missed the reasoning but it looked more like testing to see which line operated the best. This leads to the question: do the coaches not know who's first string at this point in the season?
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Unread post by AppGrad78 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:08 pm

While I'm thinking about it, can somebody put out an APB for Zach Matics? The guy kicking for us now bears little resemblance to the one who suited up for us in previous seasons. From a layman's viewpoint, he seems reluctant to drive through the ball, preferring instead to strike the ball while falling away from the onrushing defensive players. Not a good recipe for success and a big change in technique from last season.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:36 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:The player from South Alabama who impressed me was the Jags' quarterback, Brandon Bridge. I can't remember the last time an opposing quarterback played that well at Kidd Brewer.

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I think he's good, but his accuracy leaves a little to be desired. There were times WRs were wide open and he over or under threw them. He is like a poor man's Cam Newton. Big, runs well, and has good arm strength, but touch and accuracy aren't there yet.

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Unread post by AppGrad78 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:50 pm

He completed 19 of 28 passes for 339 yards with three TDs and no interceptions. I counted four drops. Accuracy? Really?

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Unread post by JTApps1 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:55 pm

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EastHallApp wrote:My two cents:

- I have been pretty realistic with this process thus far, but I can find nothing positive to say about this game. Hope it was a blip and not a sign of more blowouts to come.

- Yes, USA is a bigger, older team. But they had the same players when they were getting blown out at home by Ga. Southern, and when they won a tough game over a terrible Kent State team. USA is pretty good by Sun Belt standards, and I can live with losing to them. But I don't think it's unreasonable to think we should have been able to at least compete with them at home.

- Re: the rugby punts - USA's punt returner is averaging 2.6 yards per return for the season. And we are allowing about 8.5 per return - not good, but not disastrous. Inexplicable.

- About the best thing I can say for Lamb's deep ball throws is that at least they weren't underthrown. The threat did seem to loosen up their defense a bit.

- As much as I would love to see a jam-packed 40,000-seat (or more) KBS one day, you simply cannot justify expansion when attendance is like this. 1st FBS game, Jerry Moore Day, clear weather... there weren't just empty seats, there were entire empty sections.

I'm glad to see someone agrees that expansion plans should be put on the shelf until we demonstrate a demand for it.
We need to have a plan ready so we don't end up with a mess like before. When we execute that plan is a different story.

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AppGrad78 wrote:The player from South Alabama who impressed me was the Jags' quarterback, Brandon Bridge. I can't remember the last time an opposing quarterback played that well at Kidd Brewer.

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I think he's good, but his accuracy leaves a little to be desired. There were times WRs were wide open and he over or under threw them. He is like a poor man's Cam Newton. Big, runs well, and has good arm strength, but touch and accuracy aren't there yet.
He surely laid perfect throws into the long ones - guys never broke stride ---
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Unread post by NewApp » Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:27 pm

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EastHallApp wrote:My two cents:

- I have been pretty realistic with this process thus far, but I can find nothing positive to say about this game. Hope it was a blip and not a sign of more blowouts to come.

- Yes, USA is a bigger, older team. But they had the same players when they were getting blown out at home by Ga. Southern, and when they won a tough game over a terrible Kent State team. USA is pretty good by Sun Belt standards, and I can live with losing to them. But I don't think it's unreasonable to think we should have been able to at least compete with them at home.

- Re: the rugby punts - USA's punt returner is averaging 2.6 yards per return for the season. And we are allowing about 8.5 per return - not good, but not disastrous. Inexplicable.

- About the best thing I can say for Lamb's deep ball throws is that at least they weren't underthrown. The threat did seem to loosen up their defense a bit.

- As much as I would love to see a jam-packed 40,000-seat (or more) KBS one day, you simply cannot justify expansion when attendance is like this. 1st FBS game, Jerry Moore Day, clear weather... there weren't just empty seats, there were entire empty sections.

I'm glad to see someone agrees that expansion plans should be put on the shelf until we demonstrate a demand for it.
We need to have a plan ready so we don't end up with a mess like before. When we execute that plan is a different story.
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Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:30 pm

AppGrad78 wrote:He completed 19 of 28 passes for 339 yards with three TDs and no interceptions. I counted four drops. Accuracy? Really?
He had no pressure on him and missed three throws where the WR was wide open. I stayed until 0:00 on the clock and watched every pass he threw.

When he faced GS he was 13-34 for 4.4 ypp.

We made him look better than he is.

He is a big QB that runs well and has good arm strength. He can't make the NFL throws outside of the hashes due to a lack of touch.

Would I like him on my team, yes, but he isn't going to be an NFL starter unless he improves his touch and accuracy.

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Unread post by moonshine » Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:44 pm

Saint3333 wrote:When he faced GS he was 13-34 for 4.4 ypp.
Saint go back and watch their game against GSU. His receivers dropped at least 8 balls that were at the very least catchable, if not on the money.
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Unread post by AppState89 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:54 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:building depth - rotation keeps guys fresher - guess they are evaluating each game and deciding who gets what playing time --- NOTHING BETTER THAN DAILY COMPETITION !!!

I agree with you WVA and would add that our starting OL can't match up the entire game against a FBS line, even USA. Those guys and the ones to come were huge and pushed us around all night long (all except Lamm). Gotta to keep them fresh and I do think they are evaluating each game and each of them.

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Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:18 pm

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Saint3333 wrote:When he faced GS he was 13-34 for 4.4 ypp.
Saint go back and watch their game against GSU. His receivers dropped at least 8 balls that were at the very least catchable, if not on the money.
I watched our game and saw him attempt NFL throws, he didn't make them. That was the best game he has had all season. He is a good college QB, not NFL caliber at this point, but a good college QB.

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moonshine wrote:
Saint3333 wrote:When he faced GS he was 13-34 for 4.4 ypp.
Saint go back and watch their game against GSU. His receivers dropped at least 8 balls that were at the very least catchable, if not on the money.
I watched our game and saw him attempt NFL throws, he didn't make them. That was the best game he has had all season. He is a good college QB, not NFL caliber at this point, but a good college QB.
Saint I'm not disagreeing with you as I was not at the game and sometimes who the NFL determines as an NFL (or not) QB can be very puzzling - however, Al Groh, former college and NFL head coach said on several times that Bridge had an NFL arm and could make NFL throws - that being said, I, of course, don't know how sincere his comments were :?
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Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:10 pm

Arm strength no doubt but throwing the out is what makes the difference in the NFL. He can't make that throw.

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