Well obviously it's the fact that we've quietly replaced most of our coaching staff with some of the posters from the Mountaineer Message Board.ASUMountaineer wrote:Yeah, the apology thread is a little over the top. Unfortunately, not nearly as over the top as calling for a first-time HC's job after 16 games.
Who is responsible for the improved product since the Liberty game?
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Maybe someone should go around and get the for sale signs out of Satts yard. They sure were spamming the board enough.
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Yeah Moose I can clearly see the difference now that you have taken over as defensive coordinator ---firemoose wrote:Well obviously it's the fact that we've quietly replaced most of our coaching staff with some of the posters from the Mountaineer Message Board.ASUMountaineer wrote:Yeah, the apology thread is a little over the top. Unfortunately, not nearly as over the top as calling for a first-time HC's job after 16 games.
Who is responsible for the improved product since the Liberty game?

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It's pretty obvious to me why we came out flat. We didn't have the right pieces in place. We still don't to a certain extent. Example, the personnel getting most of the playing time is completely different than the beginning of the year.firemoose wrote:Think any of this could be related to our off season S & C program? Guess we'll see next year once the team gets it's first full dose of Coach Mike and his winter/spring/summer programs. Just have a gut feeling it will be better than the previous S & C coach produced.clayton wrote:But, it will be a very important offseason. Because, Satterfield has proven that he is a good in-season coach. But, something's off about whatever he does with the team in the winter, spring, and summer because his teams come out flat in the first month of the season. He's got to change that.
- Counts, Acey and Harris are getting outplayed by Nunn and Gosset
- Meadors is a legitimate threat defenses must account for
- Taylor Lamb was thrown into the fire and has responded exceptionally
- Devan Stringer, Eric Boggs and Latrell Gibbs are now starters as true freshman
The phrase "We're young" gets beaten to death on this board. But it's just a fact. Our freshmen are outplaying their competition and they had to learn how to play.
It's no coincidence to me that our defense has been stellar since McGowan went down and Boggs stepped in as a starter. Same with Stringer. When he became healthy again he turned into a ballhawk. These are true freshman, folks.
I would argue that the team being flat is a problem of having inexperience on the field. I would be very surprised if we come out this flat again next season.
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WVAPPeer wrote:That's what you get 91 for consuming way too much adult beverage at your tailgateApp91 wrote:Oh, please elaborate on my alternate universe. To say I have not been paying attention is an absolute joke. Maybe too much.AtlAppMan wrote:App91 you are a piece of work. Based on your comments, clearly you have not paid attention to what has been happening to our football program for the last 5 yrs. You must live in an alternate reality from most of us.



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You forget that the original kicker/holder combo was Matics and Hallock, both who got injured at different times.ASUPATCH wrote:Still hold Satterfield responsible for putting to much trust in our FG/PAT unit for too long. Essentially cost us two games.
The PAT miss at Southern Miss was the first PAT miss of the season. Yes Matics also missed the three FG's, but how could anyone expect us to miss that PAT? This was Critcher's first game EVER as holder and he only started to practice as holder that week.
Also, Satt didn't have much trust in the FG unit as the next game he went for it on 4th down in the red zone and never attempted a FG.
After GS, we had to convert McElfresh to a holder as Critcher moved to kicker due to Matics' injury. So now we have a kicker/holder combo who each had to start doing it mid-season.
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This cannot be understated, said that the time the Hallock injury was way bigger than anyone thought. Kickers, by nature, are strange birds. Conifdence is everything. Think matics lost his with the injury, then it iwas in his head.T-Dog wrote:You forget that the original kicker/holder combo was Matics and Hallock, both who got injured at different times.ASUPATCH wrote:Still hold Satterfield responsible for putting to much trust in our FG/PAT unit for too long. Essentially cost us two games.
The PAT miss at Southern Miss was the first PAT miss of the season. Yes Matics also missed the three FG's, but how could anyone expect us to miss that PAT? This was Critcher's first game EVER as holder and he only started to practice as holder that week.
Also, Satt didn't have much trust in the FG unit as the next game he went for it on 4th down in the red zone and never attempted a FG.
After GS, we had to convert McElfresh to a holder as Critcher moved to kicker due to Matics' injury. So now we have a kicker/holder combo who each had to start doing it mid-season.
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Think it's fair to criticize Satt for not being more aggressive going for a TD on the last drive vs. Liberty. Don't see how one can blame him for USM, though.T-Dog wrote:You forget that the original kicker/holder combo was Matics and Hallock, both who got injured at different times.ASUPATCH wrote:Still hold Satterfield responsible for putting to much trust in our FG/PAT unit for too long. Essentially cost us two games.
The PAT miss at Southern Miss was the first PAT miss of the season. Yes Matics also missed the three FG's, but how could anyone expect us to miss that PAT? This was Critcher's first game EVER as holder and he only started to practice as holder that week.
Also, Satt didn't have much trust in the FG unit as the next game he went for it on 4th down in the red zone and never attempted a FG.
After GS, we had to convert McElfresh to a holder as Critcher moved to kicker due to Matics' injury. So now we have a kicker/holder combo who each had to start doing it mid-season.
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T-Dog wrote:You forget that the original kicker/holder combo was Matics and Hallock, both who got injured at different times.ASUPATCH wrote:Still hold Satterfield responsible for putting to much trust in our FG/PAT unit for too long. Essentially cost us two games.
The PAT miss at Southern Miss was the first PAT miss of the season. Yes Matics also missed the three FG's, but how could anyone expect us to miss that PAT? This was Critcher's first game EVER as holder and he only started to practice as holder that week.
Also, Satt didn't have much trust in the FG unit as the next game he went for it on 4th down in the red zone and never attempted a FG.
After GS, we had to convert McElfresh to a holder as Critcher moved to kicker due to Matics' injury. So now we have a kicker/holder combo who each had to start doing it mid-season.
While this was going on he kept kicking at Southern Miss and Liberty. So yeah he doesn't get a pass. I was glad to see he made the adjustment just a game late in my opinion.
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Patch so you would have yanked Cox and put him on the bench after the first three games as well right.
Hindsight is a great thing for us.
Hindsight is a great thing for us.
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Saint3333 wrote:Patch so you would have yanked Cox and put him on the bench after the first three games as well right.
Hindsight is a great thing for us.
Cox lost some playing time over his fumbling as he should have.
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It was too early to call for the end of the world and it's too early to ask someon to eat crow. the jury is still out until 2016...........I just enjoy watching some passion and progress right now
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Everyone forgets that Critcher made two field goals in the Liberty game before he missed. Not sure why it was a bad decision to go for the FG.ASUPATCH wrote:T-Dog wrote:You forget that the original kicker/holder combo was Matics and Hallock, both who got injured at different times.ASUPATCH wrote:Still hold Satterfield responsible for putting to much trust in our FG/PAT unit for too long. Essentially cost us two games.
The PAT miss at Southern Miss was the first PAT miss of the season. Yes Matics also missed the three FG's, but how could anyone expect us to miss that PAT? This was Critcher's first game EVER as holder and he only started to practice as holder that week.
Also, Satt didn't have much trust in the FG unit as the next game he went for it on 4th down in the red zone and never attempted a FG.
After GS, we had to convert McElfresh to a holder as Critcher moved to kicker due to Matics' injury. So now we have a kicker/holder combo who each had to start doing it mid-season.
While this was going on he kept kicking at Southern Miss and Liberty. So yeah he doesn't get a pass. I was glad to see he made the adjustment just a game late in my opinion.
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I remember them well as I also remember the PAT he absolutely shanked. First game Kicking PATs/FG and your new kicker has shanked a PAT and you played for the FG. I will never agree with that decision and as history has proved it was the wrong one. In ULM Satt learned and improved he was playing for 6 Lamb just couldnt connect.hapapp wrote:Everyone forgets that Critcher made two field goals in the Liberty game before he missed. Not sure why it was a bad decision to go for the FG.ASUPATCH wrote:T-Dog wrote:You forget that the original kicker/holder combo was Matics and Hallock, both who got injured at different times.ASUPATCH wrote:Still hold Satterfield responsible for putting to much trust in our FG/PAT unit for too long. Essentially cost us two games.
The PAT miss at Southern Miss was the first PAT miss of the season. Yes Matics also missed the three FG's, but how could anyone expect us to miss that PAT? This was Critcher's first game EVER as holder and he only started to practice as holder that week.
Also, Satt didn't have much trust in the FG unit as the next game he went for it on 4th down in the red zone and never attempted a FG.
After GS, we had to convert McElfresh to a holder as Critcher moved to kicker due to Matics' injury. So now we have a kicker/holder combo who each had to start doing it mid-season.
While this was going on he kept kicking at Southern Miss and Liberty. So yeah he doesn't get a pass. I was glad to see he made the adjustment just a game late in my opinion.
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They ran three plays before the FG but they were pretty feeble attempts and they certainly made sure the ball remained on the left hash so Critcher would have the angle he preferred. They didn't run the ball because they feared they would lose the left hash. If Lamb throws an INT there would you have said that it was the wrong call to go for six?ASUPATCH wrote:I remember them well as I also remember the PAT he absolutely shanked. First game Kicking PATs/FG and your new kicker has shanked a PAT and you played for the FG. I will never agree with that decision and as history has proved it was the wrong one. In ULM Satt learned and improved he was playing for 6 Lamb just couldnt connect.hapapp wrote:Everyone forgets that Critcher made two field goals in the Liberty game before he missed. Not sure why it was a bad decision to go for the FG.ASUPATCH wrote:T-Dog wrote:You forget that the original kicker/holder combo was Matics and Hallock, both who got injured at different times.ASUPATCH wrote:Still hold Satterfield responsible for putting to much trust in our FG/PAT unit for too long. Essentially cost us two games.
The PAT miss at Southern Miss was the first PAT miss of the season. Yes Matics also missed the three FG's, but how could anyone expect us to miss that PAT? This was Critcher's first game EVER as holder and he only started to practice as holder that week.
Also, Satt didn't have much trust in the FG unit as the next game he went for it on 4th down in the red zone and never attempted a FG.
After GS, we had to convert McElfresh to a holder as Critcher moved to kicker due to Matics' injury. So now we have a kicker/holder combo who each had to start doing it mid-season.
While this was going on he kept kicking at Southern Miss and Liberty. So yeah he doesn't get a pass. I was glad to see he made the adjustment just a game late in my opinion.
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The only thing you can blame Satt for in the Liberty game is not putting the ball on the hash Bentley prefers. If you all have a few minutes listen to his postgame conference. Sure sounds like a coach who is maturing.
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Someone mentioned "for sale" signs in Satt's yard. I posted many of those images and I will tell you why. One we had just had perhaps our worst home loss since likely the 90s. Two it was not a serious thing, of course folks here blew it out of proportion (frequent occuance here). Three, I am a licensed broker (it is my side gig) who has access to MLS and his previous residence was actually already listed. Cool your jets fellas.
BTW no one needs to apologize for anything unless some harm was done to someone...this is a message board. Love the new winning trend!
BTW no one needs to apologize for anything unless some harm was done to someone...this is a message board. Love the new winning trend!
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I remember them well as I also remember the PAT he absolutely shanked. First game Kicking PATs/FG and your new kicker has shanked a PAT and you played for the FG. I will never agree with that decision and as history has proved it was the wrong one. In ULM Satt learned and improved he was playing for 6 Lamb just couldnt connect.[/quote]
They ran three plays before the FG but they were pretty feeble attempts and they certainly made sure the ball remained on the left hash so Critcher would have the angle he preferred. They didn't run the ball because they feared they would lose the left hash. If Lamb throws an INT there would you have said that it was the wrong call to go for six?[/quote]
No, I would have commended the coaching staff for always attacking, and not putting the game on a new kicker/holder that already missed a PAT by 10-15 feet.
They ran three plays before the FG but they were pretty feeble attempts and they certainly made sure the ball remained on the left hash so Critcher would have the angle he preferred. They didn't run the ball because they feared they would lose the left hash. If Lamb throws an INT there would you have said that it was the wrong call to go for six?[/quote]
No, I would have commended the coaching staff for always attacking, and not putting the game on a new kicker/holder that already missed a PAT by 10-15 feet.
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Some people on here cannot handle anyone pointing out anything negative. I've taken to calling them the Kevin Bacons.manonabuffalo wrote:Someone mentioned "for sale" signs in Satt's yard. I posted many of those images and I will tell you why. One we had just had perhaps our worst home loss since likely the 90s. Two it was not a serious thing, of course folks here blew it out of proportion (frequent occuance here). Three, I am a licensed broker (it is my side gig) who has access to MLS and his previous residence was actually already listed. Cool your jets fellas.
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On a totally unrelated note, I saw the Guy on a Buffalo series over the weekend. I'm still laughing.manonabuffalo wrote:Someone mentioned "for sale" signs in Satt's yard. I posted many of those images and I will tell you why. One we had just had perhaps our worst home loss since likely the 90s. Two it was not a serious thing, of course folks here blew it out of proportion (frequent occuance here). Three, I am a licensed broker (it is my side gig) who has access to MLS and his previous residence was actually already listed. Cool your jets fellas.
BTW no one needs to apologize for anything unless some harm was done to someone...this is a message board. Love the new winning trend!
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