Coaches control how those players practice all those things you mentioned. Coaches control play calling, Coaches control the team culture or bonding. Program has zero spirt that it had from 2015-2023ish.Apptiger wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 12:25 pmCoaches call plays and put players in position to succeed. I think the coaches have been doing that. Coaches don't throw interceptions, drop passes, fumble the ball, commit penalties, etc.
Only possible criticism of the coaches is the red zone play calling, we seem to move the ball up and down the field last night and then throw an int. The defense is vastly improved but was still out of position too much last night. On field reads are lacking or the base defense call is bad. Not sure which.
We seem to make stupid plays at bad times. The first interception... the snap was dropped, QB picked it up and threw without even looking. If he runs or eats it, we get three. The score could have been 28-10 at half but it was not, mostly due to us shooting ourselves in the foot.
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You only know the negative aspects of the program, wry interesting, or actually not.
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What is your whole point? You were making excuses for team Clark in year 5 so I know you aren't saying we made a huge mistake and calling for Loggains and his staff to be gone already just 3 weeks into year 1, are you?DenverOfTheEast wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 1:28 pmCoaches control how those players practice all those things you mentioned. Coaches control play calling, Coaches control the team culture or bonding. Program has zero spirt that it had from 2015-2023ish.Apptiger wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 12:25 pmCoaches call plays and put players in position to succeed. I think the coaches have been doing that. Coaches don't throw interceptions, drop passes, fumble the ball, commit penalties, etc.
Only possible criticism of the coaches is the red zone play calling, we seem to move the ball up and down the field last night and then throw an int. The defense is vastly improved but was still out of position too much last night. On field reads are lacking or the base defense call is bad. Not sure which.
We seem to make stupid plays at bad times. The first interception... the snap was dropped, QB picked it up and threw without even looking. If he runs or eats it, we get three. The score could have been 28-10 at half but it was not, mostly due to us shooting ourselves in the foot.
The prior staff had 5 years and saw the culture, bonding, and accountability, etc after 5 years so we need to give Loggains a fair amount of time. We are 2-1 like reasonable people predicted we would be at this point.
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All the examples have zero to do with today’s environment.MrCraig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 7:31 amThe lack of memory and football knowledge in this thread is impressive.
1. That wasn’t the Southern Miss teams of the past last night. That was quite literally the Marshall team- coach, players, and all- that won the SBC and beat App last year. They are a good team.
2. First year head coaches almost always have a tough first year. When you have to rebuild a program, that’s what happens. Here’s some first year records from some coaches you might know:
Kirby Smart- UGA- 8-4
Nick Saban- Bama- 7-6 (also 8-4 his first year at LSU)
Brian Kelly- Notre Dame- 8-5 first two years
Jim Harbaugh- Stanford- 4-8
Scott Satterfield- App- 7-5
Satterfield struggled mightily at first, and many of yall called for his firing, but he was given some slack and returned App to excellence quickly.
I have no idea if DL is the right guy because you simply can’t make that judgement based on 3 games. Last night sucked, but to say App has completely lost its way, is wandering the wilderness, and will never compete again at the D1 level… well that’s just plain stupid.
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The problem is once so miss realized the Gillon wasn’t gonna be successful through the air, there was no way we could run successfully
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Well, I’m not going to go find examples from the last 5 years, even though it would be easy, because you’re still going to blame every negative thing on NIL and transfers because that’s all you come here to do, seemingly.Pikapp79 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 2:00 pmAll the examples have zero to do with today’s environment.MrCraig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 14, 2025 7:31 amThe lack of memory and football knowledge in this thread is impressive.
1. That wasn’t the Southern Miss teams of the past last night. That was quite literally the Marshall team- coach, players, and all- that won the SBC and beat App last year. They are a good team.
2. First year head coaches almost always have a tough first year. When you have to rebuild a program, that’s what happens. Here’s some first year records from some coaches you might know:
Kirby Smart- UGA- 8-4
Nick Saban- Bama- 7-6 (also 8-4 his first year at LSU)
Brian Kelly- Notre Dame- 8-5 first two years
Jim Harbaugh- Stanford- 4-8
Scott Satterfield- App- 7-5
Satterfield struggled mightily at first, and many of yall called for his firing, but he was given some slack and returned App to excellence quickly.
I have no idea if DL is the right guy because you simply can’t make that judgement based on 3 games. Last night sucked, but to say App has completely lost its way, is wandering the wilderness, and will never compete again at the D1 level… well that’s just plain stupid.
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Google app St football. It is on the website
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