Recruiting, 2013

[firemoose]

Walkon?

Still trying to figure it out. Both him and TJ Watkins said they committed but no mention of walk on. The rest have mentioned walk on somewhere in their posts. Yesterday was supposed to be walk ons and back ups in case of a decommit but so far Vinson and Collins have said nothing about decommitting and the rest seem solid except Hunter Nunn and he's a walk on anyway. I'm watching their twitter accounts and I will post as soon as I see anything that says walk on or free ride.

[AppGrad78]

Walkon?

Still trying to figure it out. Both him and TJ Watkins said they committed but no mention of walk on. The rest have mentioned walk on somewhere in their posts. Yesterday was supposed to be walk ons and back ups in case of a decommit but so far Vinson and Collins have said nothing about decommitting and the rest seem solid except Hunter Nunn and he's a walk on anyway. I'm watching their twitter accounts and I will post as soon as I see anything that says walk on or free ride.

Firemoose, you're my hero. I'll add the two new ones to the walkon category and move them as necessary.

[JTApps1]

Walkon?

Still trying to figure it out. Both him and TJ Watkins said they committed but no mention of walk on. The rest have mentioned walk on somewhere in their posts. Yesterday was supposed to be walk ons and back ups in case of a decommit but so far Vinson and Collins have said nothing about decommitting and the rest seem solid except Hunter Nunn and he's a walk on anyway. I'm watching their twitter accounts and I will post as soon as I see anything that says walk on or free ride.

Im working on an answer about Saxton... should know tomorrow.

[firemoose]

Walkon?

Still trying to figure it out. Both him and TJ Watkins said they committed but no mention of walk on. The rest have mentioned walk on somewhere in their posts. Yesterday was supposed to be walk ons and back ups in case of a decommit but so far Vinson and Collins have said nothing about decommitting and the rest seem solid except Hunter Nunn and he's a walk on anyway. I'm watching their twitter accounts and I will post as soon as I see anything that says walk on or free ride.

Im working on an answer about Saxton... should know tomorrow.

Thanks JT. Both of their twitter accounts have been quiet (go figure football players watching the Super Bowl). I've got people I can check with tomorrow but tonight everybody is either at a SB party or hosting one.

[firemoose]

Took a bit of digging but I think I figured out the correct player for the post below. Per his twitter ATH Vallejo Tillman (5' 8" 170) of Calhoun Falls High (Charter) School in Calhoun Falls, SC received an offer from App. If all the walk-ons I have seen posting interest in or saying they have an offer from App come along with all of our commits we may need to expand the sidelines at the Rock.

gucci luciano.‏@L_Tillman5
<--- got a offer from app state. #Blessed

[AppSt94]

Scholarship or not, Is there a limit to how many a team can have on the roster? Not trying to fan the flames of rumors, but it seems like there are a lot of kids coming to APP as walk ons. Could they be getting scholarships within a few weeks with an invite to the SB?

[JTApps1]

Scholarship or not, Is there a limit to how many a team can have on the roster? Not trying to fan the flames of rumors, but it seems like there are a lot of kids coming to APP as walk ons. Could they be getting scholarships within a few weeks with an invite to the SB?

I've been wondering the same thing. I can't remember this many invited walk ons coming to Boone in the past. Maybe we aer just more aware this year thanks to 78 and moose?

[JCline0429]

Take the time to speak with some coaches who recruit against us. They will tell you that they think App has actually been underachieving on the recruiting trail. That is the fault of the coaches. The belief amongst smaller lesser renown FCS schools in the area is that if App wants a kid, then they are going to get him if they are actually interested in going there. Which is why I say when they see App is recruiting someone hard, then they assume they won't be able to beat us. Facilities give us a HUGE advantage.

Think about it. You are a coach for like a Gardner-Webb or WCU.. What are going to be able to say to a kid to choose that school over App? Coaches matter MUCH less than you think in that regard. Ask yourself what is the definition of a good recruiter? This isn't some opinion I've just grabbed out of thin air. I'm telling you what some opposing coaches think. Take it as a compliment about our school. I'm not even sure what this debate is about.

And thank for the compliment that I would do great in Washington. More precisely, I do great regardless of where I am.

I don't see how in the world anyone could honestly say we have been underachieving on the recruiting trail when we dominate the SoCon all conference teams, always have an All-American or more, have consistently placed players in the NFL. Nevermind the ones who are picked up at the beginning of NFL practice season. I don't put a lot of stock in what other schools' coaches say about us. Most must be jealous of what we achieve. Either we recruit quality kids or we do a hell of a good job of making quality college players out of them. Our record speaks for itself.

[JCline0429]

Scholarship or not, Is there a limit to how many a team can have on the roster? Not trying to fan the flames of rumors, but it seems like there are a lot of kids coming to APP as walk ons. Could they be getting scholarships within a few weeks with an invite to the SB?

I've been wondering the same thing. I can't remember this many invited walk ons coming to Boone in the past. Maybe we aer just more aware this year thanks to 78 and moose?

I wonder if we don't go FBS that these walk-ons will transfer to schools that will offer them a scholarship.

[GlassOnion]

I don't see how in the world anyone could honestly say we have been underachieving on the recruiting trail when we dominate the SoCon all conference teams, always have an All-American or more, have consistently placed players in the NFL. Nevermind the ones who are picked up at the beginning of NFL practice season. I don't put a lot of stock in what other schools' coaches say about us. Most must be jealous of what we achieve. Either we recruit quality kids or we do a hell of a good job of making quality college players out of them. Our record speaks for itself.

Wow, when you put it that way, the previous staff sure looks like a lazy underachieving bunch on the field.

[JCline0429]

I don't see how in the world anyone could honestly say we have been underachieving on the recruiting trail when we dominate the SoCon all conference teams, always have an All-American or more, have consistently placed players in the NFL. Nevermind the ones who are picked up at the beginning of NFL practice season. I don't put a lot of stock in what other schools' coaches say about us. Most must be jealous of what we achieve. Either we recruit quality kids or we do a hell of a good job of making quality college players out of them. Our record speaks for itself.

Wow, when you put it that way, the previous staff sure looks like a lazy underachieving bunch on the field.

Yeah. Three consecutive national championships, the greatest upset in history, and what, like 6 out of the last 7 SoCon championships? So, they did that with recruits nobody else wanted?

[3rd]

I don't see how in the world anyone could honestly say we have been underachieving on the recruiting trail when we dominate the SoCon all conference teams, always have an All-American or more, have consistently placed players in the NFL. Nevermind the ones who are picked up at the beginning of NFL practice season. I don't put a lot of stock in what other schools' coaches say about us. Most must be jealous of what we achieve. Either we recruit quality kids or we do a hell of a good job of making quality college players out of them. Our record speaks for itself.

Wow, when you put it that way, the previous staff sure looks like a lazy underachieving bunch on the field.

Yeah. Three consecutive national championships, the greatest upset in history, and what, like 6 out of the last 7 SoCon championships? So, they did that with recruits nobody else wanted?

don't forget most of those great things that have happened, were with a different coaching staff. Yea jerry was still there but our strength coach now at UF, o line now at USC, D-coordinator at ECU another defensive coach at WCU, when we made our run im pretty sure the core of our coaching staff stayed year in and year out

[JCline0429]

I don't see how in the world anyone could honestly say we have been underachieving on the recruiting trail when we dominate the SoCon all conference teams, always have an All-American or more, have consistently placed players in the NFL. Nevermind the ones who are picked up at the beginning of NFL practice season. I don't put a lot of stock in what other schools' coaches say about us. Most must be jealous of what we achieve. Either we recruit quality kids or we do a hell of a good job of making quality college players out of them. Our record speaks for itself.

Wow, when you put it that way, the previous staff sure looks like a lazy underachieving bunch on the field.

Yeah. Three consecutive national championships, the greatest upset in history, and what, like 6 out of the last 7 SoCon championships? So, they did that with recruits nobody else wanted?

don't forget most of those great things that have happened, were with a different coaching staff. Yea jerry was still there but our strength coach now at UF, o line now at USC, D-coordinator at ECU another defensive coach at WCU, when we made our run im pretty sure the core of our coaching staff stayed year in and year out

Yeah, I forgot we aren't supposed to give the head coach credit for those years, only blame him when we lose. Jerry Moore was here for over 20 years and dozens of assistant coaches have come and gone over the years.

[firemoose]

Scholarship or not, Is there a limit to how many a team can have on the roster? Not trying to fan the flames of rumors, but it seems like there are a lot of kids coming to APP as walk ons. Could they be getting scholarships within a few weeks with an invite to the SB?

Just so you guys know, I'm watching 6 other players from this past weekend alone who have either said they want to come to App, haven't decided yet but are leaning to App, or friends and family are saying they are coming. I just haven't posted them yet. I usually wait until they say it themselves before I put it up. A couple even have pics up with App gear on. If/when they say the words I'll add them. But that's what I was talking about earlier. The number of players that want to come here, even as walk-ons, is pretty big.

I've even got some bookmarked who are talking about coming in 2014.

[BeauFoster]

Yeah, I forgot we aren't supposed to give the head coach credit for those years, only blame him when we lose. Jerry Moore was here for over 20 years and dozens of assistant coaches have come and gone over the years.

But Jerry didn't do ALL the recruiting himself. What others are saying, and you are obviously missing because you think everyone hates JM, is that some of our coaches over the past 3 or so seasons were useless as a football bat. There are stories out there, from multiple sources, that say some of the coaches got lazy and quit pushing hard for recruits. Because of that, we lost out on guys who may have ended up in Boone. No one has said the guys that we've gotten are not quality players, but instead that we haven't reached our potential.

[Rekdiver]

Jerry is not part of this current recruiting story anymore. as far as past recruiting performance, when I hear someone like Brownie say on a telecast that we did not take advantage of the NC's and the Michigan victory to improve recruiting and I hear the new HCC say we need to get back in the high schools I tend to give that credence.Our current staff is hustling and the head coach is fully involved.Im very pleased with the effort and the cohesiveness of the staff and the comments from recruits.

[JCline0429]

Jerry is not part of this current recruiting story anymore. as far as past recruiting performance, when I hear someone like Brownie say on a telecast that we did not take advantage of the NC's and the Michigan victory to improve recruiting and I hear the new HCC say we need to get back in the high schools I tend to give that credence.Our current staff is hustling and the head coach is fully involved.Im very pleased with the effort and the cohesiveness of the staff and the comments from recruits.

I think we all are.

[asutrnr81]

Just so you guys know, I'm watching 6 other players from this past weekend alone who have either said they want to come to App, haven't decided yet but are leaning to App, or friends and family are saying they are coming. I just haven't posted them yet. I usually wait until they say it themselves before I put it up. A couple even have pics up with App gear on. If/when they say the words I'll add them. But that's what I was talking about earlier. The number of players that want to come here, even as walk-ons, is pretty big.

I've even got some bookmarked who are talking about coming in 2014.

I have been listening quietly about 1 in particular. He is "committed" to A&T but was in Boone Sat. according to his mom this AM....she is pulling for Boone but leaving it up to him....at 6-8 270ish he is a project but one worth following!

...and firemoose....thanks for all you have done! Amazing work!

[JTApps1]

Walkon?

Still trying to figure it out. Both him and TJ Watkins said they committed but no mention of walk on. The rest have mentioned walk on somewhere in their posts. Yesterday was supposed to be walk ons and back ups in case of a decommit but so far Vinson and Collins have said nothing about decommitting and the rest seem solid except Hunter Nunn and he's a walk on anyway. I'm watching their twitter accounts and I will post as soon as I see anything that says walk on or free ride.

Im working on an answer about Saxton... should know tomorrow.

It looks like Saxton is an invited walkon.

[firemoose]

Walkon?

Still trying to figure it out. Both him and TJ Watkins said they committed but no mention of walk on. The rest have mentioned walk on somewhere in their posts. Yesterday was supposed to be walk ons and back ups in case of a decommit but so far Vinson and Collins have said nothing about decommitting and the rest seem solid except Hunter Nunn and he's a walk on anyway. I'm watching their twitter accounts and I will post as soon as I see anything that says walk on or free ride.

Im working on an answer about Saxton... should know tomorrow.

It looks like Saxton is an invited walkon.

Yep...looks like it was that way for everyone that was here this weekend. I was told today that we "might" be holding on to a couple in case someone we really want or need pops up before signing day. There are still a few undecided players out there and we are still working a few. And there are also some JUCO's that have the attention of the staff but, for the most part, they will be pretty happy if we get all the commits signed. It's not over even after Wednesday so I will keep watching.

What is really amazing is the shear number of walk-on players that are either coming or want to come here. I've hardly scratched the surface on here of players who mentioned App during my searches but just looking at the number that have already accepted or are leaning this way it's going to be a big year for the walk-on. The numbers alone say that there will be a few good players who will be a surprise and make an impact. And most are coming in with a chip because they didn't pick up an offer from someone they wanted or any offer at all so that makes a guy play harder. However Wednesday turns out it looks like the staff will have a lot to look at during camp. My digging continues.