Top 25 Watch (real thread)

[appstatealum]

I tend to lean the same way, we may break #20 by end of season, finish in the teens with a bowl win. Regardless of an NY6 game or not, my goal for this season was to get ranked by mid-season and stay there until the end. I'll worry more about being the highest ranked G5 another year. I'd love for it to happen, but we have achieved so much each year, I'm OK with the benchmarks we have currently reached. Let's win the Sunbelt and win our Bowl Game, wherever that may be.

Rankings area based on opinions of other people. We just need to win and the cards will fall where they will. I'm with you on goals for this year. We are ranked at half way. And that is a fan's goal, not the Team's goal. Keep winning and stay ranked. That helps us recruit the best athletes we can get. That's how we stay relevant. I don't want to be on this stage for a couple years. I want to be here permanently. Win the Belt. Win the Bowl. We are still very young in this FBS thing and are doing things no other school has ever accomplished. I'll not get too greedy too soon.

Drink can play off the whole "being ranked thing", but that was absolutely a goal of his and most likely was an expectation of DGs when he hired Drink. Drink knows that they need to win the conference and a bowl game to achieve this goal, so that is why he is keeping the team's eyes on the 1-0 mentality.

The end goal is to build sustained success like Boise State. We will have to work hard at changing the national perspective of what App is and it will take a few years for us to be an "auto preseason rank team", but we are well on our way.

[AppInDC]

Does anyone really think that the voters are looking at past games and saying, well team A beat team B but they beat so and so and they lost to team C...? Doubt it. I think we are still fine. Solid top 25

The CFP committee goes back and looks at every week and really pours over a complete resume. AP and Coaches Poll voters won't do it as much as they weight what you are doing in the last couple weeks plus your overall record and quality wins. The CFP looks much harder and while I know we will be top 25 in it, if we beat South Carolina and Georgia Southern, I am pretty sure we will be lower. We really need a decisive win in Columbia for me to think we have a shot at being 16-19 range in the CFP like we might be in the AP/Coaches.

If you want a good listen or read then go search what committee members said on TV and in print about the ratings. They put way more time into their top 25 than the AP and Coaches Poll voters do.

So the committee puts in all of that effort for the teams ranked, say 15-25? Really? For as long as we have had the CFP who has climbed into the top 4 after starting the lowest in the ranking? Has a team ever been below about 12th or so the first week of any year’s CFP list and actually moved up to the top 4?

2014: Ohio State was #16 in the first CFP ranking. Ended up in the #4 spot and won the national title.
2015: Oklahoma was #15 in the first CFP ranking. Also ended up as the #4 spot.

Every other team that made it was in the top 7 of the first ranking. So it has been done under the current system but not within the last three years. And running the second half of the season in the Big 12 and Big Ten is probably going to allow for more upward trajectory than doing so in the Sun Belt

[Appster99]

I tend to lean the same way, we may break #20 by end of season, finish in the teens with a bowl win. Regardless of an NY6 game or not, my goal for this season was to get ranked by mid-season and stay there until the end. I'll worry more about being the highest ranked G5 another year. I'd love for it to happen, but we have achieved so much each year, I'm OK with the benchmarks we have currently reached. Let's win the Sunbelt and win our Bowl Game, wherever that may be.

Rankings area based on opinions of other people. We just need to win and the cards will fall where they will. I'm with you on goals for this year. We are ranked at half way. And that is a fan's goal, not the Team's goal. Keep winning and stay ranked. That helps us recruit the best athletes we can get. That's how we stay relevant. I don't want to be on this stage for a couple years. I want to be here permanently. Win the Belt. Win the Bowl. We are still very young in this FBS thing and are doing things no other school has ever accomplished. I'll not get too greedy too soon.

Drink can play off the whole "being ranked thing", but that was absolutely a goal of his and most likely was an expectation of DGs when he hired Drink. Drink knows that they need to win the conference and a bowl game to achieve this goal, so that is why he is keeping the team's eyes on the 1-0 mentality.

The end goal is to build sustained success like Boise State. We will have to work hard at changing the national perspective of what App is and it will take a few years for us to be an "auto preseason rank team", but we are well on our way.

My verbiage didn't fully match my thought processes. I guess my point is that it isn't something that can be a focus for the team. If you put focus on a number that is based on other people's opinion, you are not as focused as you can be on the most important next step - winning your next game to stay there. As a player/coach, be proud of the step. But don't get caught up in the hype like fans do. Be a Prince for a while so you can learn to be King. We are far from ready to rule a P5 conference and be perennial top 10-15 as many posters on here would suggest. We are solid, but we have a long way to go to meet the expectations of some.

[bigdaddyg]

Does anyone really think that the voters are looking at past games and saying, well team A beat team B but they beat so and so and they lost to team C...? Doubt it. I think we are still fine. Solid top 25

The CFP committee goes back and looks at every week and really pours over a complete resume. AP and Coaches Poll voters won't do it as much as they weight what you are doing in the last couple weeks plus your overall record and quality wins. The CFP looks much harder and while I know we will be top 25 in it, if we beat South Carolina and Georgia Southern, I am pretty sure we will be lower. We really need a decisive win in Columbia for me to think we have a shot at being 16-19 range in the CFP like we might be in the AP/Coaches.

If you want a good listen or read then go search what committee members said on TV and in print about the ratings. They put way more time into their top 25 than the AP and Coaches Poll voters do.

So the committee puts in all of that effort for the teams ranked, say 15-25? Really? For as long as we have had the CFP who has climbed into the top 4 after starting the lowest in the ranking? Has a team ever been below about 12th or so the first week of any year’s CFP list and actually moved up to the top 4?

2014: Ohio State was #16 in the first CFP ranking. Ended up in the #4 spot and won the national title.
2015: Oklahoma was #15 in the first CFP ranking. Also ended up as the #4 spot.

Every other team that made it was in the top 7 of the first ranking. So it has been done under the current system but not within the last three years. And running the second half of the season in the Big 12 and Big Ten is probably going to allow for more upward trajectory than doing so in the Sun Belt

Those 2 blue bloods probably had early losses but stormed back. For the most part a team would need to be solid top 10 in the first week and typically need a whole lot of help to climb.

[NO.2]

I tend to lean the same way, we may break #20 by end of season, finish in the teens with a bowl win. Regardless of an NY6 game or not, my goal for this season was to get ranked by mid-season and stay there until the end. I'll worry more about being the highest ranked G5 another year. I'd love for it to happen, but we have achieved so much each year, I'm OK with the benchmarks we have currently reached. Let's win the Sunbelt and win our Bowl Game, wherever that may be.

Rankings area based on opinions of other people. We just need to win and the cards will fall where they will. I'm with you on goals for this year. We are ranked at half way. And that is a fan's goal, not the Team's goal. Keep winning and stay ranked. That helps us recruit the best athletes we can get. That's how we stay relevant. I don't want to be on this stage for a couple years. I want to be here permanently. Win the Belt. Win the Bowl. We are still very young in this FBS thing and are doing things no other school has ever accomplished. I'll not get too greedy too soon.

Drink can play off the whole "being ranked thing", but that was absolutely a goal of his and most likely was an expectation of DGs when he hired Drink. Drink knows that they need to win the conference and a bowl game to achieve this goal, so that is why he is keeping the team's eyes on the 1-0 mentality.

The end goal is to build sustained success like Boise State. We will have to work hard at changing the national perspective of what App is and it will take a few years for us to be an "auto preseason rank team", but we are well on our way.

In his very first presser, which many of us watched huddled around phones in the terminal at MSY, he said that this was a Top 25 job.

[WVAPPeer]

"Satterfield said he left because he thought we had accomplished everything we could at this level."

I honestly don't remember him saying anything like this ?

[BeauFoster]

"Satterfield said he left because he thought we had accomplished everything we could at this level."

I honestly don't remember him saying anything like this ?

I believe it was in his introductory Louisville press conference-he said he and his staff had accomplished everything they could at App. It was a bit of bad optics for him and left a bad taste in many peoples mouths. I still cheer for him, but that one stung a bit.

[AppStFan1]

"Satterfield said he left because he thought we had accomplished everything we could at this level."

I honestly don't remember him saying anything like this ?

He absolutely did say this in his Louisville introductory press conference. He also said Louisville was his dream job. Both statements made me laugh out loud. I was thinking what about win a P5 game, sustain a top 25 ranking, go undefeated, and go to a NY6. That is a lot he did not do.

I appreciate Satt but he short changed us big time. I'm not saying that if we go 13-0 we will go to a NY6 but Satt seemed to think we had reached our ceiling and we have not.

Satt really thought what he did was the best we could ever do. Let's keep proving we can do more.

[appst89]

"Satterfield said he left because he thought we had accomplished everything we could at this level."

I honestly don't remember him saying anything like this ?

From the ACC media day article:
CHARLOTTE — Scott Satterfield has two football loves.

The first is Appalachian State, the school at which he was a star quarterback and, for the past six years, a coach who led the Mountaineers to new heights in its transition to FBS status.

The other is the ACC, a conference he grew up watching as a youngster in Durham and whose gravitational pull remains so strong, it lured him away from his alma mater to take the job coaching at Louisville.

“It’s a dream come true to be here, it really is having grown up right there in ACC country with Carolina, Duke, State, Wake, all these teams,” Satterfield said earlier this month at the ACC’s Football Kickoff media event, adding that he felt as though there wasn’t much more left to be accomplished by staying with the Mountaineers.

[AppStFan1]

"Satterfield said he left because he thought we had accomplished everything we could at this level."

I honestly don't remember him saying anything like this ?

I believe it was in his introductory Louisville press conference-he said he and his staff had accomplished everything they could at App. It was a bit of bad optics for him and left a bad taste in many peoples mouths. I still cheer for him, but that one stung a bit.

He made a few comments that showed me he did not have respect for our program that he should. He of all people should believe we could do amazing things. I mean we are talking about a guy who was a walk-on at a I-AA program and led them to the playoffs and then started out coaching high school and became an ACC head coach. He seems to believe in himself but not App with his comments. I want to prove him wrong.

[AppStFan1]

Another article predicting 20. Pretty obvious we will be unless ND and Wisconsin drop more than believed to drop.

https://watchstadium.com/news/predictin ... 0-27-2019/

[AppInDC]

Does anyone really think that the voters are looking at past games and saying, well team A beat team B but they beat so and so and they lost to team C...? Doubt it. I think we are still fine. Solid top 25

The CFP committee goes back and looks at every week and really pours over a complete resume. AP and Coaches Poll voters won't do it as much as they weight what you are doing in the last couple weeks plus your overall record and quality wins. The CFP looks much harder and while I know we will be top 25 in it, if we beat South Carolina and Georgia Southern, I am pretty sure we will be lower. We really need a decisive win in Columbia for me to think we have a shot at being 16-19 range in the CFP like we might be in the AP/Coaches.

If you want a good listen or read then go search what committee members said on TV and in print about the ratings. They put way more time into their top 25 than the AP and Coaches Poll voters do.

So the committee puts in all of that effort for the teams ranked, say 15-25? Really? For as long as we have had the CFP who has climbed into the top 4 after starting the lowest in the ranking? Has a team ever been below about 12th or so the first week of any year’s CFP list and actually moved up to the top 4?

2014: Ohio State was #16 in the first CFP ranking. Ended up in the #4 spot and won the national title.
2015: Oklahoma was #15 in the first CFP ranking. Also ended up as the #4 spot.

Every other team that made it was in the top 7 of the first ranking. So it has been done under the current system but not within the last three years. And running the second half of the season in the Big 12 and Big Ten is probably going to allow for more upward trajectory than doing so in the Sun Belt

Those 2 blue bloods probably had early losses but stormed back. For the most part a team would need to be solid top 10 in the first week and typically need a whole lot of help to climb.

Yeah Ohio State lost in second week to VT and won out. Oklahoma lost to Texas but still had seven games left.

[AppStFan1]

I tend to lean the same way, we may break #20 by end of season, finish in the teens with a bowl win. Regardless of an NY6 game or not, my goal for this season was to get ranked by mid-season and stay there until the end. I'll worry more about being the highest ranked G5 another year. I'd love for it to happen, but we have achieved so much each year, I'm OK with the benchmarks we have currently reached. Let's win the Sunbelt and win our Bowl Game, wherever that may be.

Rankings area based on opinions of other people. We just need to win and the cards will fall where they will. I'm with you on goals for this year. We are ranked at half way. And that is a fan's goal, not the Team's goal. Keep winning and stay ranked. That helps us recruit the best athletes we can get. That's how we stay relevant. I don't want to be on this stage for a couple years. I want to be here permanently. Win the Belt. Win the Bowl. We are still very young in this FBS thing and are doing things no other school has ever accomplished. I'll not get too greedy too soon.

Drink can play off the whole "being ranked thing", but that was absolutely a goal of his and most likely was an expectation of DGs when he hired Drink. Drink knows that they need to win the conference and a bowl game to achieve this goal, so that is why he is keeping the team's eyes on the 1-0 mentality.

The end goal is to build sustained success like Boise State. We will have to work hard at changing the national perspective of what App is and it will take a few years for us to be an "auto preseason rank team", but we are well on our way.

No question that Drink saw what we have in talent and felt he could do even better than Satt. He felt this was a top 25 job for sure.

[PhillyApp]

I tend to lean the same way, we may break #20 by end of season, finish in the teens with a bowl win. Regardless of an NY6 game or not, my goal for this season was to get ranked by mid-season and stay there until the end. I'll worry more about being the highest ranked G5 another year. I'd love for it to happen, but we have achieved so much each year, I'm OK with the benchmarks we have currently reached. Let's win the Sunbelt and win our Bowl Game, wherever that may be.

Rankings area based on opinions of other people. We just need to win and the cards will fall where they will. I'm with you on goals for this year. We are ranked at half way. And that is a fan's goal, not the Team's goal. Keep winning and stay ranked. That helps us recruit the best athletes we can get. That's how we stay relevant. I don't want to be on this stage for a couple years. I want to be here permanently. Win the Belt. Win the Bowl. We are still very young in this FBS thing and are doing things no other school has ever accomplished. I'll not get too greedy too soon.

Drink can play off the whole "being ranked thing", but that was absolutely a goal of his and most likely was an expectation of DGs when he hired Drink. Drink knows that they need to win the conference and a bowl game to achieve this goal, so that is why he is keeping the team's eyes on the 1-0 mentality.

The end goal is to build sustained success like Boise State. We will have to work hard at changing the national perspective of what App is and it will take a few years for us to be an "auto preseason rank team", but we are well on our way.

You nailed it Alum. It’s all about sustainable success and personally, that’s winning the big games like USC and Wake next year. Those are the real measuring sticks, in my opinion.

Don’t get me wrong, going 1-0 is how you build a brand, but those games are how we get to the next level.

[AppStFan1]

I tend to lean the same way, we may break #20 by end of season, finish in the teens with a bowl win. Regardless of an NY6 game or not, my goal for this season was to get ranked by mid-season and stay there until the end. I'll worry more about being the highest ranked G5 another year. I'd love for it to happen, but we have achieved so much each year, I'm OK with the benchmarks we have currently reached. Let's win the Sunbelt and win our Bowl Game, wherever that may be.

Rankings area based on opinions of other people. We just need to win and the cards will fall where they will. I'm with you on goals for this year. We are ranked at half way. And that is a fan's goal, not the Team's goal. Keep winning and stay ranked. That helps us recruit the best athletes we can get. That's how we stay relevant. I don't want to be on this stage for a couple years. I want to be here permanently. Win the Belt. Win the Bowl. We are still very young in this FBS thing and are doing things no other school has ever accomplished. I'll not get too greedy too soon.

Drink can play off the whole "being ranked thing", but that was absolutely a goal of his and most likely was an expectation of DGs when he hired Drink. Drink knows that they need to win the conference and a bowl game to achieve this goal, so that is why he is keeping the team's eyes on the 1-0 mentality.

The end goal is to build sustained success like Boise State. We will have to work hard at changing the national perspective of what App is and it will take a few years for us to be an "auto preseason rank team", but we are well on our way.

You nailed it Alum. It’s all about sustainable success and personally, that’s winning the big games like USC and Wake next year. Those are the real measuring sticks, in my opinion.

Don’t get me wrong, going 1-0 is how you build a brand, but those games are how we get to the next level.

Going 1-0 every week means we win those brand name type games. The best way to build a big brand in the SBC is sweep the SBC, beat P5s, and sustain a top 25 ranking.

If we had beat GSU bad last year I would worry this will be a trap game that could slow this down but I don't think it happens. We want revenge so I am expecting a big time showing on national TV the next two weeks. I can't wait for both games!

[hotrod2001]

"Satterfield said he left because he thought we had accomplished everything we could at this level."

I honestly don't remember him saying anything like this ?

He absolutely did say this in his Louisville introductory press conference. He also said Louisville was his dream job. Both statements made me laugh out loud. I was thinking what about win a P5 game, sustain a top 25 ranking, go undefeated, and go to a NY6. That is a lot he did not do.

I appreciate Satt but he short changed us big time. I'm not saying that if we go 13-0 we will go to a NY6 but Satt seemed to think we had reached our ceiling and we have not.

Satt really thought what he did was the best we could ever do. Let's keep proving we can do more.

This season has proven that there is still plenty of more miles to go before we've reached the ceiling. I don't think it's unrealistic to say that our "ceiling" is probably a home in the AAC and being in the hunt for a NY6 game year-in and year-out. That's a ceiling that has a lot of nice company with it, and it's certainly attainable.

[AppStFan1]

Here is an AP ballot that I did not see coming if many others do this. We are ahead of Notre Dame, Michigan, Wisconsin, and he flipped us ahead of Cincy due to them being on their bye week.

https://watchstadium.com/news/brett-mcm ... 0-27-2019/

[ah59396]

I’m shocked to see McMurphy ranking is that high but wow, I’ll take it.


I do think we are better than Cincinnati and I’m willing to die on that hill. I have no doubt we would do better than 42-0 against Ohio State. Would we win? Probably not. But damn we wouldn’t get blanked.

[AppStFan1]

Tom D'Angelo had us 23 last week. He has us 22 this week.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/20 ... e-plummets

[AppStFan1]

Chris Murray leaves us at #22 again. Kansas State winning has clearly hurt us because many voters move Texas down but will move KSU above us so that will be a wash. Believe it or not we need Louisville to lose a game in the next 3 weeks or they likely pass us or take votes from us like KSU is doing.

http://nevadasportsnet.com/news/reporte ... -2-as-well