11-1 and SBC champs per Massey Ratings

[NewApp]

Damn that was hard to watch. The touchdown run on their first play after stuffing the runner at the line set the tone. Hurry up, short pass, short pass, play action deep, touchdown. They made us look sluggish.

Humble, hungry, no embarrassments this year.....

An opponent's superior speed will make a team look sluggish.

[AtlAppMan]

An opponent's superior speed will make a team look sluggish.

Or not being well prepared for the plays the opponent is executing. We were often not ready when the ball was snapped as a result of not having our defensive plays called in time. The results were we were frequently out of position for the respective offensive play and thus didn't have good angles which makes you look bad, sluggish and ineffective in defending. The fact that we didn't have plays ready to was pure coaching. This was a weakness that was obvious in previous games which Richt and staff obviously saw on film as an opportunity to exploit. Satt and Woody did not correct this prior to Miami game therefore, Richt and staff out coached our staff. Period. Coaches have to have plays in in time for players to be in position when the play starts or they are at a disadvantage immediately regardless of their skill or speed. The disadvantage is compounded when you are playing a team with equal or superior speed as was Miami.

[CVAPP]

Or not being well prepared for the plays the opponent is executing. We were often not ready when the ball was snapped as a result of not having our defensive plays called in time. The results were we were frequently out of position for the respective offensive play and thus didn't have good angles which makes you look bad, sluggish and ineffective in defending. The fact that we didn't have plays ready to was pure coaching. This was a weakness that was obvious in previous games which Richt and staff obviously saw on film as an opportunity to exploit. Satt and Woody did not correct this prior to Miami game therefore, Richt and staff out coached our staff. Period. Coaches have to have plays in in time for players to be in position when the play starts or they are at a disadvantage immediately regardless of their skill or speed. The disadvantage is compounded when you are playing a team with equal or superior speed as was Miami.

Where's your allegiance? It's unpatriotic to criticize Satt and or his staff. You should just keep those thoughts to yourself. We can however blame the players for being too emotionally high, the pep rally for getting them that way, the town of Boone, the team speed/talent disparity, the Russians, the crappy piped in music and sound system, the video board, and pretty much anything on the planet other than Satt and his staff. The fact is, we would have easily lost by more than 35 if our coaches had not stepped up their preparations for that day.

[NewApp]

An opponent's superior speed will make a team look sluggish.

Or not being well prepared for the plays the opponent is executing. We were often not ready when the ball was snapped as a result of not having our defensive plays called in time. The results were we were frequently out of position for the respective offensive play and thus didn't have good angles which makes you look bad, sluggish and ineffective in defending. The fact that we didn't have plays ready to was pure coaching. This was a weakness that was obvious in previous games which Richt and staff obviously saw on film as an opportunity to exploit. Satt and Woody did not correct this prior to Miami game therefore, Richt and staff out coached our staff. Period. Coaches have to have plays in in time for players to be in position when the play starts or they are at a disadvantage immediately regardless of their skill or speed. The disadvantage is compounded when you are playing a team with equal or superior speed as was Miami.

So what's the solution? Fire em and start over?
Heck we may have the best staff in all of P-5. Getting plays in on time is a matter of knowing in advance what the other team is likely going to do before you see it. Teams with superior talent have many more capabilities.

[Yosef84]

We sure have been the stuffing out of the Miami game. Why do some folks seem to insist in making such simplistic and absolute statement (or in their interpretation of other's comments). Yes, we probably did get out-coached but why is that such a big deal? Richt and his staff gets paid several times what we are able to pay. That's hardly the only factor though. Talent gaps, depth, pre-game hype all have roles in the outcome. Our coaches might have had a GREAT game plan, but a bad break (missed tackle on that first run from scrimmage) changed the momentum of the game right out of the blocks. I know some folks refuse to acknowledge "luck" as a factor, but Miami didn't break another long run for the rest of the game. The fact that happened on the first play, deflated our guy and pumped up Miami. We were playing catch-up for the rest of the game so that was just a really bad break. Getting Cox's run called back for a holding call that was away from the play was another bad break and it was compounded by Cox being injured on the play. Despite all that, we were within two scored in the third quarter when those two perfect passes (on two consecutive possessions) put the final nail in our casket.

On that day in 2016, Miami whipped us. They were the better team, but I don't believe they are 30+ points better. On a different day it might have gone differently and it's not impossible that we could have won. I don't like hearing people write the game off as a mis-match because I just don't believe it is true. We should EVER be afraid to play better teams. That's how we will ultimately gain the respect we deserve.

Michigan 2007 has nothing to do with any game we play in 2017. Other than providing motivation and as a learning tool for the players, Miami 2016 has nothing to do with any games in 2017 either. Those games are in the books. I can't wait for 9/2/2017!!!!

[NewApp]

We sure have been the stuffing out of the Miami game. Why do some folks seem to insist in making such simplistic and absolute statement (or in their interpretation of other's comments). Yes, we probably did get out-coached but why is that such a big deal? Richt and his staff gets paid several times what we are able to pay. That's hardly the only factor though. Talent gaps, depth, pre-game hype all have roles in the outcome. Our coaches might have had a GREAT game plan, but a bad break (missed tackle on that first run from scrimmage) changed the momentum of the game right out of the blocks. I know some folks refuse to acknowledge "luck" as a factor, but Miami didn't break another long run for the rest of the game. The fact that happened on the first play, deflated our guy and pumped up Miami. We were playing catch-up for the rest of the game so that was just a really bad break. Getting Cox's run called back for a holding call that was away from the play was another bad break and it was compounded by Cox being injured on the play. Despite all that, we were within two scored in the third quarter when those two perfect passes (on two consecutive possessions) put the final nail in our casket.

On that day in 2016, Miami whipped us. They were the better team, but I don't believe they are 30+ points better. On a different day it might have gone differently and it's not impossible that we could have won. I don't like hearing people write the game off as a mis-match because I just don't believe it is true. We should EVER be afraid to play better teams. That's how we will ultimately gain the respect we deserve.

Michigan 2007 has nothing to do with any game we play in 2017. Other than providing motivation and as a learning tool for the players, Miami 2016 has nothing to do with any games in 2017 either. Those games are in the books. I can't wait for 9/2/2017!!!!

You summed it up more articulately than anyone else has.

[NoLongerLurking]

We sure have been the stuffing out of the Miami game. Why do some folks seem to insist in making such simplistic and absolute statement (or in their interpretation of other's comments). Yes, we probably did get out-coached but why is that such a big deal? Richt and his staff gets paid several times what we are able to pay. That's hardly the only factor though. Talent gaps, depth, pre-game hype all have roles in the outcome. Our coaches might have had a GREAT game plan, but a bad break (missed tackle on that first run from scrimmage) changed the momentum of the game right out of the blocks. I know some folks refuse to acknowledge "luck" as a factor, but Miami didn't break another long run for the rest of the game. The fact that happened on the first play, deflated our guy and pumped up Miami. We were playing catch-up for the rest of the game so that was just a really bad break. Getting Cox's run called back for a holding call that was away from the play was another bad break and it was compounded by Cox being injured on the play. Despite all that, we were within two scored in the third quarter when those two perfect passes (on two consecutive possessions) put the final nail in our casket.

On that day in 2016, Miami whipped us. They were the better team, but I don't believe they are 30+ points better. On a different day it might have gone differently and it's not impossible that we could have won. I don't like hearing people write the game off as a mis-match because I just don't believe it is true. We should EVER be afraid to play better teams. That's how we will ultimately gain the respect we deserve.

Michigan 2007 has nothing to do with any game we play in 2017. Other than providing motivation and as a learning tool for the players, Miami 2016 has nothing to do with any games in 2017 either. Those games are in the books. I can't wait for 9/2/2017!!!!

You summed it up more articulately than anyone else has.

We must also acknowledge the "last year dawnt matter" rule applies to our opponents as well. Will Southern be back? Are there surprises in our future? Both of those should be somewhat true. I made the mistake of stalking umass threads last night, and several fans think ASU a "gimme win."

[EastHallApp]

I made the mistake of stalking umass threads last night, and several fans think ASU a "gimme win."

[NoLongerLurking]

I made the mistake of stalking umass threads last night, and several fans think ASU a "gimme win."

I was irrationally angry, but didn't troll them

[diehardapp18]

The thing is, our conference schedule is an absolute joke this year. No Arkansas State, no Troy, no South Alabama. I'll be pretty upset if we lose any game in conference, unless someone ends up being much better than expected. I mean @ Idaho coulddddd be tough? And we've still beat them handily every time we have played them. If we beat Wake Forest I think we are definitely finishing 11-1. 9-3 is the absolute floor for me right now, and I'd probably be a little disappointed with that tbh.

[AtlAppMan]

So what's the solution? Fire em and start over?
Heck we may have the best staff in all of P-5. Getting plays in on time is a matter of knowing in advance what the other team is likely going to do before you see it. Teams with superior talent have many more capabilities.

Heaven forbid I provide constructive criticism about our coaching staff. I have said previously many times that Satt and Co. are doing a great job and I would bet they will not make the same mistake again. I also think we also have one of the best head coaches and staff in G5, and they stack up darn well against ALL of FBS, IMO. However, I can believe we have an outstanding staff while also recognizing their mistakes.

As well, the notion that some are throwing out is "well Richt and Co. get paid a lot more so somehow we should expect them to outcoach our guys". Well I don't accept that excuse and I bet Satt doesn't either. Satt and Co outcoached Butch Jones at UT and Butch makes a heck of a lot more than Satt. I strongly believe if you want to be the best you can honestly assess your performance and always continue to improve and reduce your mistakes. You cannot be so fragile that accurate critique of your performance is a bad thing. That is all I am saying. An heck no, I would never fire Satt and never said anything resembling that statement.

[WVAPPeer]

An opponent's superior speed will make a team look sluggish.

Or not being well prepared for the plays the opponent is executing. We were often not ready when the ball was snapped as a result of not having our defensive plays called in time. The results were we were frequently out of position for the respective offensive play and thus didn't have good angles which makes you look bad, sluggish and ineffective in defending. The fact that we didn't have plays ready to was pure coaching. This was a weakness that was obvious in previous games which Richt and staff obviously saw on film as an opportunity to exploit. Satt and Woody did not correct this prior to Miami game therefore, Richt and staff out coached our staff. Period. Coaches have to have plays in in time for players to be in position when the play starts or they are at a disadvantage immediately regardless of their skill or speed. The disadvantage is compounded when you are playing a team with equal or superior speed as was Miami.

Am I reading your comments correctly when I say it seems your take is that the Miami coaches out-coached our staff?

[EastHallApp]

[AtlAppMan]

Am I reading your comments correctly when I say it seems your take is that the Miami coaches out-coached our staff?

No, just reiterating that I think Satt is one of the best coaches in FBS.

[AppOrange]

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Lol

[SpeedkingATL]

I think most of us can agree that UM caught App a little off guard with the super fast tempo and App was having trouble getting the defensive calls in and being lined up and ready at the snap. They also took advantage of our soft coverage on the outside with the quick screens. Both of these issues appeared to be addressed in future App games so we did learn from those mistakes. I wouldn't call it "out coaching" App but it certainly was good coaching by the UM staff. The adjustments were made in future games which is what good coaches do.
I you remember our game at UGA a few years ago, in the first half App completed short pass after short pass to move the ball downfield constantly against soft coverage and vanilla rush defense. Unfortunately App had to settle for field goals. In the second half UGA went to press coverage and started blitzing and it stopped Apps offense. It's those type of adjustments that win games.

[bigdaddyg]

Man this topic has gone off the rails. To me the Miami loss is pretty easy to sum up. They were better than us, we had a pep rally ( I mean come on man) and we didn't stop them. There is a reason why AAA level baseball teams don't play the Major League teams. They would lose because the more talented players are on the big team. I'm not by any means saying that we shouldn't take on the big boys. To say we lost because we got out coached is stupid. The coach salary comparison is also stupid. We played and we lost. Life goes on

[hapapp]

One team was better prepared for the game than the other. Call it what you will. No coach or staff walks on water.

[NewApp]

So what's the solution? Fire em and start over?
Heck we may have the best staff in all of P-5. Getting plays in on time is a matter of knowing in advance what the other team is likely going to do before you see it. Teams with superior talent have many more capabilities.

Heaven forbid I provide constructive criticism about our coaching staff. I have said previously many times that Satt and Co. are doing a great job and I would bet they will not make the same mistake again. I also think we also have one of the best head coaches and staff in G5, and they stack up darn well against ALL of FBS, IMO. However, I can believe we have an outstanding staff while also recognizing their mistakes.

As well, the notion that some are throwing out is "well Richt and Co. get paid a lot more so somehow we should expect them to outcoach our guys". Well I don't accept that excuse and I bet Satt doesn't either. Satt and Co outcoached Butch Jones at UT and Butch makes a heck of a lot more than Satt. I strongly believe if you want to be the best you can honestly assess your performance and always continue to improve and reduce your mistakes. You cannot be so fragile that accurate critique of your performance is a bad thing. That is all I am saying. An heck no, I would never fire Satt and never said anything resembling that statement.

What's constructive about saying we were out coached? Satterfield would have beaten us with Miami's players.

[NewApp]

Man this topic has gone off the rails. To me the Miami loss is pretty easy to sum up. They were better than us, we had a pep rally ( I mean come on man) and we didn't stop them. There is a reason why AAA level baseball teams don't play the Major League teams. They would lose because the more talented players are on the big team. I'm not by any means saying that we shouldn't take on the big boys. To say we lost because we got out coached is stupid. The coach salary comparison is also stupid. We played and we lost. Life goes on

Exactly.