Coaching change at UNCCheat

[Black Saturday]

Bobby Petrino is the type Carolina would consider too.

[Apptrain]

UNC needs Lane Kiffin. A vain school with a sense of self-importance needs a football coach with an inflated ego and stuck-out chest. A perfect match. I would enjoy pulling against both.

Well put. Agree 100%

[GoBoone]

Dismiss Scott taking players. That ain’t happening. His heart is black and gold.

[Black Saturday]

Dismiss Scott taking players. That ain’t happening. His heart is black and gold.

Hope their isn't enough green to changes that, like 5-6 times current green.

[AppSt94]

Some of you still have the black and gold beer goggles on, any one of you would switch zip codes for 5-6 times your salary for the the same job or a "lateral" move. Why are you so sure Satterield would do his family a fiduciary disservice? As fans we all want him back, especially when he's put together the best team in school history. When this type of move involves million$, it's a no brainer. He may tell Gillen he's going to pray about it, while he tells his wife to pack. If he does stay we can guess he'll probably be around longer JM was.

It’s not about black and gold beer goggles, it is about principles over money. There are those who simply chose the latter over the former. Good for you to take the money and run, but I for one don’t think that Satt is like you.

And those people are called idiots.

People move their families to make millions of dollars and that doesn’t mean they’re an ass hole even if they like their old job. As much as I hate UNC I don’t see how taking the UNC job would violate any principle.

Gonzo, you and I had this discussion at the South Al game and while I understand your position and respect it, to call someone an idiot because they don't value money as the root to happiness is not only unfair, but quite frankly ignorant. You are a young guy and and in no way qualified to speak for anyone that is in the situation that Satt is in. He is a man in his mid 40's with three teenage children that are fully entrenched in their daily lives in a place where they want to be. His wife, while supportive of his career, doesn't want to leave Boone, at least not until the kids are on their own. You can make all the claims that he can't turn down the money but we aren't talking about leaving Wal-Mart for Target. He makes a very good living by, most people's standards, where he and is family are happy. Now once his daughter graduates from HS, then they may decide to leave and try their hand at a bigger school. Maybe Satt wants to do that and Beth will acquiesce to leaving Boone on the condition that the kids are out of school. Who knows. But to say that people are idiots for chasing the paycheck isn't fair. Money doesn't make everyone's world go around. Besides, Satt makes enough money that he can take one months salary, split among his kids and make them multi millionaires by the time they are 50. I mean no disrespect to you with this last comment, but life hasn't given you the perspective yet that Satt has to make decisions with.

[The Rock]

Dismiss Scott taking players. That ain’t happening. His heart is black and gold.

No matter how dedicated he is to App, he is going to do what’s best for himself. That means taking the best players available to him. This would absolutely include current App recruits

[WataugaMan]

Some of you still have the black and gold beer goggles on, any one of you would switch zip codes for 5-6 times your salary for the the same job or a "lateral" move. Why are you so sure Satterield would do his family a fiduciary disservice? As fans we all want him back, especially when he's put together the best team in school history. When this type of move involves million$, it's a no brainer. He may tell Gillen he's going to pray about it, while he tells his wife to pack. If he does stay we can guess he'll probably be around longer JM was.

It’s not about black and gold beer goggles, it is about principles over money. There are those who simply chose the latter over the former. Good for you to take the money and run, but I for one don’t think that Satt is like you.

And those people are called idiots.

People move their families to make millions of dollars and that doesn’t mean they’re an ass hole even if they like their old job. As much as I hate UNC I don’t see how taking the UNC job would violate any principle.

Gonzo, you and I had this discussion at the South Al game and while I understand your position and respect it, to call someone an idiot because they don't value money as the root to happiness is not only unfair, but quite frankly ignorant. You are a young guy and and in no way qualified to speak for anyone that is in the situation that Satt is in. He is a man in his mid 40's with three teenage children that are fully entrenched in their daily lives in a place where they want to be. His wife, while supportive of his career, doesn't want to leave Boone, at least not until the kids are on their own. You can make all the claims that he can't turn down the money but we aren't talking about leaving Wal-Mart for Target. He makes a very good living by, most people's standards, where he and is family are happy. Now once his daughter graduates from HS, then they may decide to leave and try their hand at a bigger school. Maybe Satt wants to do that and Beth will acquiesce to leaving Boone on the condition that the kids are out of school. Who knows. But to say that people are idiots for chasing the paycheck isn't fair. Money doesn't make everyone's world go around. Besides, Satt makes enough money that he can take one months salary, split among his kids and make them multi millionaires by the time they are 50. I mean no disrespect to you with this last comment, but life hasn't given you the perspective yet that Satt has to make decisions with.

Agreed, money can't buy happiness, love, etc. Some of the most unhappy people in the world are very wealthy. I have on more than one occasion turned down more money to stay put. I guess it depends on the individual.

[AppStateMtneer]

The rumors are that UNC wants Mack Brown. Seriously.

And supposedly Mack wants to get back into coaching.

Mack back in Boone

[fjblair]

That’d be a lateral move for Satt, not worried.

Larry Fedora $2,290,000
Scott Satterfield $425,000

Sure about that?

Thank you. Only in some alternative reality would taking the UNC job be a "lateral move". It's sheer lunacy. We should be very worried.

[Black Saturday]

The rumors are that UNC wants Mack Brown. Seriously.

And supposedly Mack wants to get back into coaching.

Mack back in Boone

I was hoping we'd have a go at getting Appalachian Football Working again.

[Rekdiver]

Making 2 million a year for 5 years would make me happy

[Black Saturday]

Making 2 million a year for 5 years would make me happy

Hard decision to trade 100 hour job a week for another for 5-6 times the former pay? You make the call.

[ASU-FTW]

That’d be a lateral move for Satt, not worried.

Larry Fedora $2,290,000
Scott Satterfield $425,000

Sure about that?

Thank you. Only in some alternative reality would taking the UNC job be a "lateral move". It's sheer lunacy. We should be very worried.

We have no control over what happens and therefore should not be worried at all.

[app97]

With Satt's kids being at Watauga and firmly entrenched in life in Boone, do you all expect he would uproot his family at a pivotal time in his kids lives to move?

This is a rhetorical question, right?

Satt has done a great job at App, and no doubt it holds a special place in his heart.
However, he does not get where he is today without being really competitive in his soul, and App cannot be where he thinks he will end his career. I see no incremental advantage in staying at App. Does going 13-0 next year get him better offers than where he is today? I doubt it.

Even if Satt does not get an offer, or the right offer, and chooses to stay, App is going to face pressure from other schools looking to hire his staff. This could put Satt's ability to continue winning in jeopardy, which might mean offers like UNC CHeat will not be there for him later. Additionally, ECU and Charlotte are presumably going to hire better coaches, and in theory, will better compete with App for recruits, again making it more difficult for Satt to maintain his level of success there.

All of this is speculation, and Satt will not have all the answers either, so he is going to have to roll the dice and decide if he can get the next step he wants now.

I honestly hope Satt stays for another year. I suspect Charlotte, ECU and APP will all be in the same general range pay wise, all will value coaches with recruiting ties in the Southeast, and all will be contacting some of the same people, so I want to go first. Plus, Satt seems like a good guy, but I would have to root for him to get caught with hookers and goats if he goes to Chapel Hill.

ecu and uncc already compete well for recruits. We just happen to be a program that gets it done on the field with who we have, including a history of walk ons and under recruited players becoming extremely valuable.

[Nugget49]

With Satt's kids being at Watauga and firmly entrenched in life in Boone, do you all expect he would uproot his family at a pivotal time in his kids lives to move?

This is a rhetorical question, right?

Satt has done a great job at App, and no doubt it holds a special place in his heart.
However, he does not get where he is today without being really competitive in his soul, and App cannot be where he thinks he will end his career. I see no incremental advantage in staying at App. Does going 13-0 next year get him better offers than where he is today? I doubt it.

Even if Satt does not get an offer, or the right offer, and chooses to stay, App is going to face pressure from other schools looking to hire his staff. This could put Satt's ability to continue winning in jeopardy, which might mean offers like UNC CHeat will not be there for him later. Additionally, ECU and Charlotte are presumably going to hire better coaches, and in theory, will better compete with App for recruits, again making it more difficult for Satt to maintain his level of success there.

All of this is speculation, and Satt will not have all the answers either, so he is going to have to roll the dice and decide if he can get the next step he wants now.

I honestly hope Satt stays for another year. I suspect Charlotte, ECU and APP will all be in the same general range pay wise, all will value coaches with recruiting ties in the Southeast, and all will be contacting some of the same people, so I want to go first. Plus, Satt seems like a good guy, but I would have to root for him to get caught with hookers and goats if he goes to Chapel Hill.

ecu and uncc already compete well for recruits. We just happen to be a program that gets it done on the field with who we have, including a history of walk ons and under recruited players becoming extremely valuable.

I can't speak for ECU, but Lambert is hunting for a new job largely because he did not recruit well. You know App football better than I, so if you think Satterfield's ability to turn leftovers into a winning team is the key, then losing him is going to have an even bigger impact that I had imagined.

[Goapps15]

Raw talent isn't the end all be all at the G5 level. The recruiting rankings are mediocre at best. You have to develop talent and allow your freshmen to mature. What he has done is develop players. That should not be undersold at all.

[beav910]

With Satt's kids being at Watauga and firmly entrenched in life in Boone, do you all expect he would uproot his family at a pivotal time in his kids lives to move?

This is a rhetorical question, right?

Satt has done a great job at App, and no doubt it holds a special place in his heart.
However, he does not get where he is today without being really competitive in his soul, and App cannot be where he thinks he will end his career. I see no incremental advantage in staying at App. Does going 13-0 next year get him better offers than where he is today? I doubt it.

Even if Satt does not get an offer, or the right offer, and chooses to stay, App is going to face pressure from other schools looking to hire his staff. This could put Satt's ability to continue winning in jeopardy, which might mean offers like UNC CHeat will not be there for him later. Additionally, ECU and Charlotte are presumably going to hire better coaches, and in theory, will better compete with App for recruits, again making it more difficult for Satt to maintain his level of success there.

All of this is speculation, and Satt will not have all the answers either, so he is going to have to roll the dice and decide if he can get the next step he wants now.

I honestly hope Satt stays for another year. I suspect Charlotte, ECU and APP will all be in the same general range pay wise, all will value coaches with recruiting ties in the Southeast, and all will be contacting some of the same people, so I want to go first. Plus, Satt seems like a good guy, but I would have to root for him to get caught with hookers and goats if he goes to Chapel Hill.

Charlotte and App have similar salary ranges but I suspect ECU is in the low millions at least.

[dtrain4prez]

Crazy as it sounds, I'm hearing Mack Brown to UNC with Satterfield as the coach in waiting while his kids finish up high school.

[Rekdiver]

Gonzo is right. AND if there is not an announcement on the new UNC coach before the SunBelt Championship game then Satt is gone.

[mikeyosef]

UNC may come calling for Satt but it will require their boosters to swallow real hard to hire him. An App State Grad, App State player, and App State coach hired to lead UNC...I don't know; has hell frozen over yet?

I mean, really, even if he is the very best choice for the job that's going to require some real big time spinning for the baby blue crowd. And, if he does take the head coaching position there he will have one tough time making it more than a year or two without a winning season. Remember the comments some made on this board after the Liberty game; imagine what the Chapel Hill crowd will be like.

Don't get me wrong, I will hate to see him leave when he does take another job but I'll cheer for him regardless of the team, unless we are playing them. I just think the only thing that makes the Chapel Hill job a possible choice for him is the location; it keeps him in NC. He's going to get a big time money offer from a better football school in the next two-three years if he just wants more money.