Athlon Predictions

[Bigdaddyg1]

Theoretically if we were in a regional conference that required almost no air travel for teams, on average how much does that save the athletic department? Do we fly teams to Marshall? The MAC seems pretty regional. Looks like the Belt and the AAC in particular are hurting each other. Both have schools too spread out.

[AppSt94]

Theoretically if we were in a regional conference that required almost no air travel for teams, on average how much does that save the athletic department? Do we fly teams to Marshall? The MAC seems pretty regional. Looks like the Belt and the AAC in particular are hurting each other. Both have schools too spread out.

I think that there is a mileage threshold that determines the need to drive or fly. I have seen some dated rules that the limit to fly is 450 miles. All SBC East schools are within that range so we take busses. Troy is 492 miles so we may bus that depending on the cost and logistics.

[Bootsy]

#1 criteria for flying vs. the bus:

• How many opportunities will we have to stop at a Buc-ee’s on the way there & back?

[AppSt94]

#1 criteria for flying vs. the bus:

• How many opportunities will we have to stop at a Buc-ee’s on the way there & back?

I think that the only two that are on the way to a location is the one in Florence (Coastal) and Auburn, Al. (Troy).

[AppinVA]

#1 criteria for flying vs. the bus:

• How many opportunities will we have to stop at a Buc-ee’s on the way there & back?

I think that the only two that are on the way to a location is the one in Florence (Coastal) and Auburn, Al. (Troy).

They’re putting one up in Harrisonburg.

[hapapp]

#1 criteria for flying vs. the bus:

• How many opportunities will we have to stop at a Buc-ee’s on the way there & back?

I think that the only two that are on the way to a location is the one in Florence (Coastal) and Auburn, Al. (Troy).

They’re putting one up in Harrisonburg.

https://www.southernliving.com/buc-ee-s ... ia-7567352

[AppSt94]

#1 criteria for flying vs. the bus:

• How many opportunities will we have to stop at a Buc-ee’s on the way there & back?

I think that the only two that are on the way to a location is the one in Florence (Coastal) and Auburn, Al. (Troy).

They’re putting one up in Harrisonburg.

Oh nice. I actually stopped at one in Leeds, Al. last year on my way back from Monroe. I didn’t count that one because most folks wouldn’t drive it. There is also one off of I-40 west of Knoxville, Tn. if you were driving to Arkansas St.

[BambooRdApp]

#1 criteria for flying vs. the bus:

• How many opportunities will we have to stop at a Buc-ee’s on the way there & back?

I think that the only two that are on the way to a location is the one in Florence (Coastal) and Auburn, Al. (Troy).

They’re putting one up in Harrisonburg.

Oh nice. I actually stopped at one in Leeds, Al. last year on my way back from Monroe. I didn’t count that one because most folks wouldn’t drive it. There is also one off of I-40 west of Knoxville, Tn. if you were driving to Arkansas St.

We stopped by the Auburn location traveling back to ATL airport the day after SBC championship game. It is a very large convenience store. It was nice, however, I would not drive out of my way to stop at one

[AppSt94]

#1 criteria for flying vs. the bus:

• How many opportunities will we have to stop at a Buc-ee’s on the way there & back?

I think that the only two that are on the way to a location is the one in Florence (Coastal) and Auburn, Al. (Troy).

They’re putting one up in Harrisonburg.

Oh nice. I actually stopped at one in Leeds, Al. last year on my way back from Monroe. I didn’t count that one because most folks wouldn’t drive it. There is also one off of I-40 west of Knoxville, Tn. if you were driving to Arkansas St.

We stopped by the Auburn location traveling back to ATL airport the day after SBC championship game. It is a very large convenience store. It was nice, however, I would not drive out of my way to stop at one

I won’t either. I haven’t seen one that wasn’t right off the interstate. The one in Leeds was actually one of the more difficult ones to navigate in and out.

[BambooRdApp]

I think that the only two that are on the way to a location is the one in Florence (Coastal) and Auburn, Al. (Troy).

They’re putting one up in Harrisonburg.

Oh nice. I actually stopped at one in Leeds, Al. last year on my way back from Monroe. I didn’t count that one because most folks wouldn’t drive it. There is also one off of I-40 west of Knoxville, Tn. if you were driving to Arkansas St.

We stopped by the Auburn location traveling back to ATL airport the day after SBC championship game. It is a very large convenience store. It was nice, however, I would not drive out of my way to stop at one

I won’t either. I haven’t seen one that wasn’t right off the interstate. The one in Leeds was actually one of the more difficult ones to navigate in and out.

One positive. You should never have to wait in line for gas

[TheMoody1]

One positive. You should never have to wait in line for gas

Or electric chargers. The one I was at had at least 50 and there wasnt a single car using them.

[AppSt94]

One positive. You should never have to wait in line for gas

Or electric chargers. The one I was at had at least 50 and there wasnt a single car using them.

Well they are in the Deep South. Lol.

[ericsaid]

I do not want App to be in an ACC that does not include the Big Four...

You wouldn't want to be in the ACC with ECU and the remaining programs, including SMU? Probably Memphis as well?

That would be insanity considering if App turned it down, Charlotte probably gets the call. Or they could go all in and add App, Charlotte, and ECU to backfill the Carolinas and bring in Memphis. Would be complete idiocy to turn that down.

It would take more than 4 ACC departures for App to get a call - probably 8 schools gone. Honestly even if it was just a handful of teams clinging to the ACC name and trying to rebuild, App still would have to seriously consider it, though the ACC could get so bad, App would have to turn them down. But it really all comes down to who the ACC loses.

If it is down to perhaps WF, GT, BC, SMU, Duke, Miami, a football-less ND, Syracuse, Cal, and Stanford, than they will just add a few high-brow schools like Georgetown, Rice, and Tulane and rebrand themselves a (mostly) Southern Ivy League. William & Mary or Richmond have a better chance getting into that league than App.

Obviously what you've discussed changes the premise. The premise was "Big Four is gone" implying all else remains unchanged. Even considering Notre Dame gone, you still take that spot if it's offered under that scenario.

Under your scenario, App never gets a call because the ACC has gone basketball. I don't think the ACC would do this though and I could easily see a reformation of sorts to something akin to what the SoCon did, albeit at a higher level. Time will tell.

The notion that we are going to move up to any existing P whatever is just delusional. Any future membership to an “ACC” conference will be akin to a lateral movement. The juice has to be worth the squeeze and an “ACC” with Charlotte and ECU is not the hill you want to conquer.

You may be looking forward to an Eastern based G5 conference that includes Charlotte, ECU, JMU, ODU, Georgia Southern, Coastal, etc.

I wouldn't be opposed to that.

[AppSt94]

You wouldn't want to be in the ACC with ECU and the remaining programs, including SMU? Probably Memphis as well?

That would be insanity considering if App turned it down, Charlotte probably gets the call. Or they could go all in and add App, Charlotte, and ECU to backfill the Carolinas and bring in Memphis. Would be complete idiocy to turn that down.

It would take more than 4 ACC departures for App to get a call - probably 8 schools gone. Honestly even if it was just a handful of teams clinging to the ACC name and trying to rebuild, App still would have to seriously consider it, though the ACC could get so bad, App would have to turn them down. But it really all comes down to who the ACC loses.

If it is down to perhaps WF, GT, BC, SMU, Duke, Miami, a football-less ND, Syracuse, Cal, and Stanford, than they will just add a few high-brow schools like Georgetown, Rice, and Tulane and rebrand themselves a (mostly) Southern Ivy League. William & Mary or Richmond have a better chance getting into that league than App.

Obviously what you've discussed changes the premise. The premise was "Big Four is gone" implying all else remains unchanged. Even considering Notre Dame gone, you still take that spot if it's offered under that scenario.

Under your scenario, App never gets a call because the ACC has gone basketball. I don't think the ACC would do this though and I could easily see a reformation of sorts to something akin to what the SoCon did, albeit at a higher level. Time will tell.

The notion that we are going to move up to any existing P whatever is just delusional. Any future membership to an “ACC” conference will be akin to a lateral movement. The juice has to be worth the squeeze and an “ACC” with Charlotte and ECU is not the hill you want to conquer.

You may be looking forward to an Eastern based G5 conference that includes Charlotte, ECU, JMU, ODU, Georgia Southern, Coastal, etc.

I wouldn't be opposed to that.

That could very well happen. But it isn’t, in any way, going to be confused with or compared to the ACC. Which is what your point is.

[Bootsy]

#1 criteria for flying vs. the bus:

• How many opportunities will we have to stop at a Buc-ee’s on the way there & back?

I think that the only two that are on the way to a location is the one in Florence (Coastal) and Auburn, Al. (Troy).

If I was counting on anyone to supply this info, I knew you would be the man, muchacho.

[AppSt94]

#1 criteria for flying vs. the bus:

• How many opportunities will we have to stop at a Buc-ee’s on the way there & back?

I think that the only two that are on the way to a location is the one in Florence (Coastal) and Auburn, Al. (Troy).

If I was counting on anyone to supply this info, I knew you would be the man, muchacho.

I got you. I passed one driving to Arkansas St and Monroe, La, as well.

[ericsaid]

It would take more than 4 ACC departures for App to get a call - probably 8 schools gone. Honestly even if it was just a handful of teams clinging to the ACC name and trying to rebuild, App still would have to seriously consider it, though the ACC could get so bad, App would have to turn them down. But it really all comes down to who the ACC loses.

If it is down to perhaps WF, GT, BC, SMU, Duke, Miami, a football-less ND, Syracuse, Cal, and Stanford, than they will just add a few high-brow schools like Georgetown, Rice, and Tulane and rebrand themselves a (mostly) Southern Ivy League. William & Mary or Richmond have a better chance getting into that league than App.

Obviously what you've discussed changes the premise. The premise was "Big Four is gone" implying all else remains unchanged. Even considering Notre Dame gone, you still take that spot if it's offered under that scenario.

Under your scenario, App never gets a call because the ACC has gone basketball. I don't think the ACC would do this though and I could easily see a reformation of sorts to something akin to what the SoCon did, albeit at a higher level. Time will tell.

The notion that we are going to move up to any existing P whatever is just delusional. Any future membership to an “ACC” conference will be akin to a lateral movement. The juice has to be worth the squeeze and an “ACC” with Charlotte and ECU is not the hill you want to conquer.

You may be looking forward to an Eastern based G5 conference that includes Charlotte, ECU, JMU, ODU, Georgia Southern, Coastal, etc.

I wouldn't be opposed to that.

That could very well happen. But it isn’t, in any way, going to be confused with or compared to the ACC. Which is what your point is.

The prompt was to say that absent Clemson, FSU, Notre Dame, and I believe UNC, would you still join the ACC?

The answer to that very specific and direct question was a resounding “yes”. The feasibility of that happening is 0.000000001%. I can admit that but this is the most unlikely of unlikely hypotheticals. Call it a thought experiment.

So yes, you’re right. I’m not sure if that’s what you’re wanting to hear.

[Bigdaddyg1]

Until the city of Boone either moves back to a more populated area that also includes a larger television market there is no way App State gets invited to or included in a major conference. Did the ACC want Pitt and BC for the overall athletic excellence they have had? It was for markets.