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Oline and QB are real problems

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Re: Oline and QB are real problems

Unread post by AppinATL » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:20 pm

While we're calling people out on here, one problem we have is loud mouth fans will hold have no class embarrassing the team. The school and the rest of our fan base all over the place.

Let's start with Todd, who just couldn't keep himself from going on the Ohio board and acting like a drunk redneck starting a thread about the no class Ohio teams halftime antics. While that was truly an ugly moment he somehow single handedly managed to make us look worse.

Then there was the disgusting moron sitting somewhere a few rows behind me that spent half the game yelling at Satterfield "you're no good at your job!". Well to whoever that was, you're no good at life.

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Re: Oline and QB are real problems

Unread post by ASUTodd » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:24 pm

AppinATL wrote:While we're calling people out on here, one problem we have is loud mouth fans will hold have no class embarrassing the team. The school and the rest of our fan base all over the place.

Let's start with Todd, who just couldn't keep himself from going on the Ohio board and acting like a drunk redneck starting a thread about the no class Ohio teams halftime antics. While that was truly an ugly moment he somehow single handedly managed to make us look worse.

Then there was the disgusting moron sitting somewhere a few rows behind me that spent half the game yelling at Satterfield "you're no good at your job!". Well to whoever that was, you're no good at life.
Im glad you found something else to gripe about that wasnt related to your front row seats.

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Re: Oline and QB are real problems

Unread post by AppinATL » Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:59 pm

ASUTodd wrote:
AppinATL wrote:While we're calling people out on here, one problem we have is loud mouth fans will hold have no class embarrassing the team. The school and the rest of our fan base all over the place.

Let's start with Todd, who just couldn't keep himself from going on the Ohio board and acting like a drunk redneck starting a thread about the no class Ohio teams halftime antics. While that was truly an ugly moment he somehow single handedly managed to make us look worse.

Then there was the disgusting moron sitting somewhere a few rows behind me that spent half the game yelling at Satterfield "you're no good at your job!". Well to whoever that was, you're no good at life.
Im glad you found something else to gripe about that wasnt related to your front row seats.
If you go back to that thread, you will see that I owned up to being wrong about that, but way to deflect

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Unread post by TheMackAttack » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:18 pm

My intent wasn't to attack Shaq Counts. A 6'1 player has no business playing FBS tackle, he was clearly out of position. It's not that he was lazy or didn't work hard, but he was put in a bad position and it negatively affected our team. Our lack of depth at offensive line is our biggest problem. It's a shame that we had to put him in that position.
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Unread post by AppinATL » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:24 pm

But we did have to and it does nothing good to call him out by name on here and make him feel any worse when all he was doing was what was asked of him due to an unfortunate series of events outside of his control. I just wish some of you guys would actually stop to THINK before you post

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Unread post by TheMackAttack » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:39 pm

I made an assumption that our fan base would be able to tell the difference between a personal attack and an explanation for our offensive issues. I have never questioned and to this very second don't question his effort or his work ethic. There was nothing malicious about my comment.
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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:13 pm

TheMackAttack wrote:I made an assumption that our fan base would be able to tell the difference between a personal attack and an explanation for our offensive issues. I have never questioned and to this very second don't question his effort or his work ethic. There was nothing malicious about my comment.
Problem solved --- DON'T USE INDIVIDUAL NAMES !!! :idea:
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Unread post by TheMackAttack » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:23 pm

WVAPPeer wrote:
TheMackAttack wrote:I made an assumption that our fan base would be able to tell the difference between a personal attack and an explanation for our offensive issues. I have never questioned and to this very second don't question his effort or his work ethic. There was nothing malicious about my comment.
Problem solved --- DON'T USE INDIVIDUAL NAMES !!! :idea:

Okay I apologize, the guy playing Left Tackle who gave a great effort but was out of position really made our offense less effective because it made Ohio's pass rush more effective and limited our ability to run the stretch play to the left.


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Unread post by Rekdiver » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:48 pm

Ahh I feel right at home here on AppFan...what this is Yosef's Cabin?

Here is how you say it..(and by the way leave the calling out to the coaches, they do this for a living, not sitting in the BarcaLounger eating buttered popcorn ) "there were serious mismatches on the OLine and receivers were having trouble getting separation that allowed OU to put more pressure on TL"

One other item of note..when you look in Wikipedia for "pancake Block" you see Gossett planting that linebacker 20 yards downfield. It was a thing of beauty.

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:02 pm

OK - you guys who think Shaq didn't do his job properly --- go back and watch the 4th Q - on Cox's TD run for the 3rd TD watch Shaq seal off 2 Ohio defenders taking the second one to the ground - after Mondo's interception the very first play Cox goes left for 36 yards as Shaq takes his guy out - then on the TD he takes the man in front of Burns out of the play as Burns runs free into the end zone --- ON THE GAME WINNING DRIVE Shaq has great block in protection on the Lamb to McElfresh 1st down - the next 2 plays Taylor runs but Shaq has his guy sealed off both times - then on Moore's first down run off of LT Shaq completely takes his man out - then the final play to set up the FG his man is taken out --- Some of you guys really don't know football nearly as much as you think you do ---
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Re: Oline and QB are real problems

Unread post by WVAPPeer » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:04 pm

"Okay I apologize, the guy playing Left Tackle who gave a great effort but was out of position really made our offense less effective because it made Ohio's pass rush more effective and limited our ability to run the stretch play to the left. "

And this is based on what? - have you watched the replay - re-run the plays? - refer to my earlier post please ---
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Unread post by ASUTodd » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:15 pm

Its Wvappeer, Jcline (NewApp), Rekdiver, and Appatl to the rescue!!!! The Mountaineer Templar Knights of all things perfect and pure.


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Unread post by WataugaMan » Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:11 am

I thought they were the knights that stood up to the knights that said "ni"?

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Unread post by MtnDevil95 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:50 am

My father-in-law played C and RG for U of Washington and in the CFL, and wants to watch the recording of the game when he gets to my house for Christmas. I always enjoy watching games with him as he picks out and points out what the o-line is doing versus what it should be doing and why. Watching a recording should be even better as we'll be able to pause and rewind for him to explain what we're seeing. As such, I'll reserve any comments about the o-line play or any individual performances until after I gain some of his insights.

As for Lamb? He's just a kid, I think we all need to remember that. Yes, he has much more experience than most sophomores, but he's still just a sophomore. He made a bad play and got rattled for a bit, which lead to some more bad plays, but he recovered masterfully in the end. We've seen him do it before on the big stage (2nd quarter in Death Valley) but he's still young and he is still learning. The positives of having him under center by far out weigh the negatives. Call me crazy, but on his current track of progression and improvement, with the skillset he's already demonstrated, Taylor Lamb, playing at a Heisman qualifying school, would have a shot at an invitation to New York in his senior season. I really think he's capable of being that good.
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Unread post by PhillyApp1 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:06 am

After much reflection, i think TL is a better throwing Tim Tebow. He has heart, intelligence, good skills, and definitely stood up at the end of the game, he refused to lose. He is growing and I will remember this game for the next two years of his career.

Merry Christmas to all Mountaineers....lets let this thread die and get excited about 2016

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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:21 am

PhillyApp1 wrote:After much reflection, i think TL is a better throwing Tim Tebow. He has heart, intelligence, good skills, and definitely stood up at the end of the game, he refused to lose. He is growing and I will remember this game for the next two years of his career.

Merry Christmas to all Mountaineers....lets let this thread die and get excited about 2016
Not yet !!! - I want all the "experts" to watch Shaq's play during the DECISIVE 4th Quarter --- :o
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Unread post by Saint3333 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:31 am

Shaq was the best player available and did the best he could.

An objective review would not provide a good grade on his performance, but he is a true Mountaineer and filled his role (an out of position role) to the best of his ability and helped App win the game.

He was another senior that held strong during the FCS/FBS transition, worked his butt off everyday, accepted a backup role when more talented players started, and when called upon stepped in to help a team go 11-2 and win a bowl game.

In many ways what Shaq and other players like him did the last four years is more impressive than the "all-star" that didn't face adversity.

I'm fine being critical of his play, but fans need to realize what that man did for our program.

He gave his ALL and I thank him for it.

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Unread post by mtnjax » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:05 am

We made all kinds of history this season and I'm as happy as a lark! As it has been said, our coaches know where we need to improve upon. This was only year 2 of FBS. We will continue to get even better!
ASUchipman wrote:I had several people around me who got down on the team and the coaches while we were losing. One was quite vocal about it until the guy in front of him finally told him to be quiet.
If you were in section R, I remember this too. Thought we were going to have a fight amongst ourselves in the stands.

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Re: Oline and QB are real problems

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:25 am

Exactly what Shaq and all the other Mountaineers did! You can't ask for anything more than that.
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Re: Oline and QB are real problems

Unread post by AppinATL » Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:26 am

ASUTodd wrote:Its Wvappeer, Jcline (NewApp), Rekdiver, and Appatl to the rescue!!!! The Mountaineer Templar Knights of all things perfect and pure.


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