Birmingham Bowl

[hapapp]

I'm not sure you want a run first QB but a more creative approach would have seen what a good situational QB he could/can be. Especially since we didn't have anyone in that room that came close to his mobility.

I'm anxious to see the direction we go in the portal.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

I'm not sure you want a run first QB but a more creative approach would have seen what a good situational QB he could/can be. Especially since we didn't have anyone in that room that came close to his mobility.

I'm anxious to see the direction we go in the portal.

I’m not a fan of that kind of system but State had a guy they brought in for situational short yardage plays and it was pretty successful

[311neers]

I'm not sure you want a run first QB but a more creative approach would have seen what a good situational QB he could/can be. Especially since we didn't have anyone in that room that came close to his mobility.

I'm anxious to see the direction we go in the portal.

I’m not a fan of that kind of system but State had a guy they brought in for situational short yardage plays and it was pretty successful

Will Wilson is also like 6’2 230 lbs.
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[ah59396]

I’ll ask the same question, I asked weeks ago and never saw a decent response.
Outside of DJ’s defense, where did we improve this year in season? What mistakes did we stop making?

You can say we didn’t have the horses, but part of the job is development and improvement. This group was together continually from the beginning of August until the end of the year.

I want to see what he does with his own guys. End of story. If he can’t get it done with his own personnel, happy trails.

It’s honestly very difficult to have any genuine conversation on this staff because so many people here have obvious emotional agendas connected with this staff vs the prior. I have/had no personal connection with either.

If Loggains can’t get it done with his own guys, see ya. but we should give him time to find out.

I have zero personal agenda with this staff. My opinions are based only on what I have seen this year. When you say his own guys, just what do you mean by that, what is the percentage for you? I mean, there were over 50 new players on this year's team, I would call that his own guys. Most of the offense he brought in from the portal, and much of the defense. How much more does he need to bring in for it to be his guys? In this new era of college football, a team's fortunes can turn around almost immediately. I have given plenty of examples in other threads of first year coaches that replaced the same number of players in the first year yet were still able to have success. I hope you are right; I want App to win again, I just don't see it with this staff.

His own guys means a full recruitment cycle - at minimum. I'll take you at your word that you have no agenda, he was announced as head coach on Dec 7th of 2024.

He got to recruit zero high school players. Personally, barring catastrophic off-field issues or like, 1-11 seasons, I'm an advocate for letting all coaching staffs get their high school recruits to a sophomore season. Coaching staffs have unique schemes and want players that fit them. I get we don't live in a world of patience anymore and my opinion is probably unpopular, but I stand by it and probably can't be convinced otherwise.

He also had effectively a month to scout/recruit/and close all winter transfers by Jan 16th. And a couple months to prep for the tiny April window for leftovers.

I am of the opinion he was likely in a full scramble filling gaps and did the best he could with basically no time. We don't have to agree, he may be a massive catastrophic failure, it's yet to be seen. And I have no dog in this fight I just want App to be successful. I'm just suggesting it's too early to making sweeping judgments.

If he's a gigantic bust and we are a disaster next year I fully invite you to come tell me to eat crow. I'm comfortable being wrong although for the sake of App I hope I'm not in this case.

[Stonewall]

I thought Alexander showed out pretty well both running and receiving. Again , his first real live fire so that’s positive.

[appdaze]

What are y'all talking about? You gotta take off the gold glasses for a second. Armanti DEVELOPED into a great passer. Look at his completion percentage rise throughout his 4 years. Look at the drop in interceptions. Look at the rise in attempts with that completion percentage. Armanti was not a great passer his freshman year. I would argue he was average at best and that was with the threat of K-Rich taking pressure off him and the passing game. This is a similar situation here except Wilson was not given the chance to develop.

Season Passing Rushing
GP GS Rating Comp Att % Yards TD INT Att Yards Avg TD
2006 15 13 140.72 167 274 60.9 2,251 15 10 188 1,153 6.1 15
2007 11 11 159.34 148 222 66.7 1,948 17 7 237 1,588 6.7 21
2008 13 13 170.20 196 306 64.1 2,902 30 9 193 941 4.9 11
2009 12 12 147.90 257 378 68.0 3,291 12 7 137 679 5.0 18
Totals 51 49 154.54 768 1,180 65.1 10,392 74 33 755 4,361 5.8 65

[Saint3333]

12k in attendance, worst in the history of that bowl, and yes I’m part of that problem.

[Stonewall]

We watched Ritchie Williams go from oops to WOW ! Among others.

[Saint3333]

Wilson is a slow and stronger Pressly.

[t4pizza]

I’ll ask the same question, I asked weeks ago and never saw a decent response.
Outside of DJ’s defense, where did we improve this year in season? What mistakes did we stop making?

You can say we didn’t have the horses, but part of the job is development and improvement. This group was together continually from the beginning of August until the end of the year.

I want to see what he does with his own guys. End of story. If he can’t get it done with his own personnel, happy trails.

It’s honestly very difficult to have any genuine conversation on this staff because so many people here have obvious emotional agendas connected with this staff vs the prior. I have/had no personal connection with either.

If Loggains can’t get it done with his own guys, see ya. but we should give him time to find out.

I have zero personal agenda with this staff. My opinions are based only on what I have seen this year. When you say his own guys, just what do you mean by that, what is the percentage for you? I mean, there were over 50 new players on this year's team, I would call that his own guys. Most of the offense he brought in from the portal, and much of the defense. How much more does he need to bring in for it to be his guys? In this new era of college football, a team's fortunes can turn around almost immediately. I have given plenty of examples in other threads of first year coaches that replaced the same number of players in the first year yet were still able to have success. I hope you are right; I want App to win again, I just don't see it with this staff.

His own guys means a full recruitment cycle - at minimum. I'll take you at your word that you have no agenda, he was announced as head coach on Dec 7th of 2024.

He got to recruit zero high school players. Personally, barring catastrophic off-field issues or like, 1-11 seasons, I'm an advocate for letting all coaching staffs get their high school recruits to a sophomore season. Coaching staffs have unique schemes and want players that fit them. I get we don't live in a world of patience anymore and my opinion is probably unpopular, but I stand by it and probably can't be convinced otherwise.

He also had effectively a month to scout/recruit/and close all winter transfers by Jan 16th. And a couple months to prep for the tiny April window for leftovers.

I am of the opinion he was likely in a full scramble filling gaps and did the best he could with basically no time. We don't have to agree, he may be a massive catastrophic failure, it's yet to be seen. And I have no dog in this fight I just want App to be successful. I'm just suggesting it's too early to making sweeping judgments.

If he's a gigantic bust and we are a disaster next year I fully invite you to come tell me to eat crow. I'm comfortable being wrong although for the sake of App I hope I'm not in this case.

Prior to unlimited transfers and the transfer portal, I would agree that any new coach should get at least 3 and most likely 4 years to get things moving in the right direction. But that is no longer the college football world. Sadly, patience is no longer an option in college football. I have already stated, and will again here, that I was premature in calling for his head after the JMU debacle. He does need at least a year more. I hope your optimism is warranted because I want nothing more than to have a very good football team again.