Recruiting, 2014

[3rd]

Our o-line sucked this year just like it did in the years we won championships, difference was we had a QB who know one could catch. Think about most of the "magical plays" AE made... He was running for his life. Another difference was the o-line in the championship years didn't have dumb flags at critical times.

I disagree. I think our O-line was excellent under Shawn Elliot during the run.

Sucks may have been a strong word but they were not that much greater. We had a QB that made stuff happen when things broke down quickly. I also believe our WR routs were shorter and didn't have all 4 WR running 15 yards down the field.

[firemoose]

Whats the word on overhauling the S&C program from last year? Crossfit-esq programs aren't going to cut it. I want to see a hell of a lot more meat on those boys.

Gonzo, just curious and I might be hijacking the thread but...What is your beef with CF? I have done it for a couple years and getting back into it after a while. I think it works perfectly for FB, as FB is a quick 5-6 burst with 3o sec. or so of "rest". CF is built on short, quick bursts of energy followed by a recovery period. That along with its concentration on Oly lifts, think it works perfectly. Matter of fact, our gym owner played college, USFL and NFL, says it is perfect for the game.

91, CrossFit is based on lower weight/high reps. I know, I've done it before. These are NOT power lifts. I know there are slight variations in the program but the base premise is still the same. Experts say that power lifts are classed as working out at 85%+ of you max. As was pointed out it may be ok for specialist positions but not someone who slams into a brick wall play after play. But I'm not going to get into an argument about it because, as most know, my sister is chair of HLES and works with USA Athletics and the Olympic team (traveling to Colorado Springs several times a year) and NASA (designed, with three others, the exercise equipment that is currently on the International Space Station). She is one of the top Exercise Scientists in the world. Her and her peers test every one of these exercise programs on everyone from children to the elderly and athletes from every sport. That's a major part of the research that ES does. I'll defer to them. They are the experts in exactly what these programs do for people down to a cellular level. And they say CrossFit is not a proper program for football. It can be used in conjunction with other power lifts but doing only CrossFit is not enough. I'm not going to dispute them because they are literally the experts in this field. There are thousands of pages of research to back them up. We've had two of the last 4 Outstanding Sports Scientists of the Year from the NSCA (National Strangth and Conditioning Association) come out of the App HLES program (my sister in 2010 and Dr Jeff McBride (2012). That's enough for me.

It's nothing personal against Kareem. I like him but he simply doesn't have the experience. A business major with 1 1/2 years at a Tampa HS and a year as an assistant is not enough to be a S & C coordination for a D-1 level athletic program. And it goes on all over the country. Sports coaches will almost never take advantage of the expertise that is sitting on most campuses. The best example I can give you is Penn State. My sister got her PhD there under Dr. William Kraemer, widely known as one of the worlds foremost experts in the field of Strength and Conditioning. And neither Paterno or his staff ever asked for his advise, even though two of their S & C assistants got their degrees under him. If coaches would take advantage of these people they would be amazed at what they could learn. But pride seems to get in the way.

[asutrnr81]

Can we take this CF BS to the appropriate thread and leave this one to recruiting......oh I forgot the last coach bashing as back during the season!

#W/E

[App91]

Moose, good insite, I say we hire your sister!! That said, I guess I am a little confused as I was taught more of the power part than the cardio part. But, meh, I agree, should not have started this on this thread, probably needs its own between signing day and spring ball.

[WVAPPeer]

Our o-line sucked this year just like it did in the years we won championships, difference was we had a QB who know one could catch. Think about most of the "magical plays" AE made... He was running for his life. Another difference was the o-line in the championship years didn't have dumb flags at critical times.

Hey Marcus Cox is good - really good - but he didn't break all freshman rushing records and make 1st team freshman All-American without some blocking from the OL --- Even when we won 3 National Championships the OL sucked??? --- WOW - not sure you have perspective here ---

[firemoose]

Moose, good insite, I say we hire your sister!! That said, I guess I am a little confused as I was taught more of the power part than the cardio part. But, meh, I agree, should not have started this on this thread, probably needs its own between signing day and spring ball.

I know. No problem. I guess I would say that there is power lifting but it's not usually power enough. As I said true power lifts are considered 85%+ of your personal max. When I did Crossfit we all did power lifts but more lower weight/higher reps. My new program is high weight/less reps (my sister is trying to kill me). I usually only do two sets of ten but I'm almost maxed out. With my problems with my knees I do the less weight more reps but upper body there is no way I'm doing three sets. The last few of each of the two are killers. I don't really need to do this anymore but I want to get back, as close as I can, to where I was when I played. I'll get close if I don't kill myself in the process...

[Gonzo]

Can we take this CF BS to the appropriate thread and leave this one to recruiting......oh I forgot the last coach bashing as back during the season!

#W/E

You're right. I apologize. I was about to start a S&C thread, but I thought I'd just wait for a kind MOD to move all those posts over so people reading the superhighway of a recruiting thread don't have to sift through the tangent.

[firemoose]

Can we take this CF BS to the appropriate thread and leave this one to recruiting......oh I forgot the last coach bashing as back during the season!

#W/E

You're right. I've put months of time into this thread so we'll start another one when the program changes that are being talked about come about. Should happen sometime after signing day, from what I'm hearing.

[asutrnr81]

Can we take this CF BS to the appropriate thread and leave this one to recruiting......oh I forgot the last coach bashing as back during the season!

#W/E

You're right. I've put months of time into this thread so we'll start another one when the program changes that are being talked about come about. Should happen sometime after signing day, from what I'm hearing.

I have really enjoyed this thread and its lack of hijacking.

[EastHallApp]

Our o-line sucked this year just like it did in the years we won championships, difference was we had a QB who know one could catch. Think about most of the "magical plays" AE made... He was running for his life. Another difference was the o-line in the championship years didn't have dumb flags at critical times.

And Richie Williams, Kevin Richardson, Devon Moore, Trey Elder? Did all of them also just camouflage our terrible OL?

[AppinVA]

Our o-line sucked this year just like it did in the years we won championships, difference was we had a QB who know one could catch. Think about most of the "magical plays" AE made... He was running for his life. Another difference was the o-line in the championship years didn't have dumb flags at critical times.

And Richie Williams, Kevin Richardson, Devon Moore, Trey Elder? Did all of them also just camouflage our terrible OL?

Yeah, that line sure looked terrible on that fourth quarter drive against UMass.

[T-Dog]

Yes our O-Line was undersized, but they also had great footwork and blocking schemes from Elliot.

I've been harping on the S&C of the program for months now. I was the one who called into the postgame show and asked Brownie about it that created a big fuss internally and externally. While the video that came out this week shows some good things, it's just a highlight video. I really think we need size going up against the East Texas uglies that Lafayette, Monroe & stAte recruits.

[Rick0714]

I'm sorry, I was looking for recruiting news... don't know how I got here.

(Had to say it.)

[bcoach]

Our o-line sucked this year just like it did in the years we won championships, difference was we had a QB who know one could catch. Think about most of the "magical plays" AE made... He was running for his life. Another difference was the o-line in the championship years didn't have dumb flags at critical times.

I disagree. I think our O-line was excellent under Shawn Elliot during the run.

That is exactly right. You don't win championships with Lines that suck. They were strong, well conditioned, and had great coaching. One man does not win championships. 3rd, if you think otherwise you need to watch a game sometime.

[proasu89]

Our o-line sucked this year just like it did in the years we won championships, difference was we had a QB who know one could catch. Think about most of the "magical plays" AE made... He was running for his life. Another difference was the o-line in the championship years didn't have dumb flags at critical times.

And Richie Williams, Kevin Richardson, Devon Moore, Trey Elder? Did all of them also just camouflage our terrible OL?

Yeah, that line sure looked terrible on that fourth quarter drive against UMass.

Or on that last possession against UNI when K-Rich and the O-Line put the game away.

[firemoose]

And in recruiting news (I think this is the right thread) I put the names of the two official visitors reported so far for tomorrow in another thread but thought I would post them here. I expect there to be others there and will have a better read on it tomorrow from twitter and also after the lunch. Should be a few possible unofficial and some PWO's also given this is the last visit weekend before signing day.

DB Junior Sigalo (6′ 2″ 190) of Arabia Mountain High School in Lithonia, GA
DB Austin Exford (6' 1" 195) of Shiloh High School in Snellville, GA

Sigalo has a player page with video already on the Main Page. I just moved it to the Offers section from Considering. I will be building a page for Exford shortly. His hudl highlights will be included. Sigalo is showing offers from Alabama St, Kennesaw St, NC A & T, Savannah St, and Tennessee St. He is not currently rated by either Rivals or 24/7

Exford is showing as a Presbyterian commit on Rivals but only an offer on 24/7. He is rated a 2 star by Rivals but has not been rated by 24/7 yet.

[App91]

Can we take this CF BS to the appropriate thread and leave this one to recruiting......oh I forgot the last coach bashing as back during the season!

#W/E

You're right. I've put months of time into this thread so we'll start another one when the program changes that are being talked about come about. Should happen sometime after signing day, from what I'm hearing.

I have really enjoyed this thread and its lack of hijacking.

SOrry guys, that's on me! I;ll stand down

[Rekdiver]

Didn't bother me because moose had no recruiting news and the SC issue is a worthy debate. Since it didn't get moved ....don't think it was all that bad....3 more days!!!!! I'm anxious like all of you!

[Gonzo]

Anyone else finding FBS pre-signing week much more stressful than years past? Any surprises on NSD will be a bad thing.

[asu66]

Anyone else finding FBS pre-signing week much more stressful than years past? Any surprises on NSD will be a bad thing.

Yeah, me! I'm already a basket-case with 3 1/2 days yet to go.