Can the Sun Belt sustain?
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:30 am
After watching this season of Sun Belt football, I am starting to question whether or not the current model/lineup of the Sun Belt Conference can sustain over a long time period. While Appalachian and Troy are doing fairly well for themselves, there are a few schools that have either fallen from grace or never been close to it. I'm going to break down each team and their records as of late, just to see where the conference's current members are at and where they've come from:
Appalachian State
2010: 10-3 (losses to GS, Florida, and Villanova)
2011: 8-4 (losses to VT, Wofford, Furman, and Maine)
2012: 8-4 (losses to ECU, The Citadel, Wofford, and Illinois State)
2013: 4-8 (losses to Montana, NCA&T, Charleston Southern, The Citadel, Samford, Furman, UTC, and UGA)
2014: 7-5 (losses to Michigan, USM, GS, USA, and Liberty)
2015: 11-2 (losses to Clemson and stAte)
2016 (so far): 4-2 (losses to UTK and Miami)
Arkansas State
2010: 4-8 (losses to ULM, UNT, FAU, and MTSU)
2011: 10-3 (losses to Illinois, VT, and NIU)
2012: 10-3 (losses to Oregon, Nebraska, and WKU)
2013: 8-5 (losses to Auburn, Memphis, Missouri, ULL, and WKU)
2014: 7-6 (losses to Tennessee, Miami, ULL, App State, Texas State, and Toledo)
2015: 9-4 (losses to USC, Missouri, Toledo, and Louisiana Tech)
2016 (so far): 2-4 (losses to Toledo, Auburn, Utah State, and Central Arkansas)
Georgia Southern
2010: 10-5 (losses to Navy, Wofford, UTC, Samford, and Delaware)
2011: 11-3 (losses to App State, Alabama, and NDSU)
2012: 10-4 (losses to The Citadel, App State, Georgia, and NDSU)
2013: 5-4 (losses to Wofford, Samford, App State, and Furman) [2 wins vacated this season]
2014: 8-3 (losses to NC State, Georgia Tech, and Navy) [1 win vacated this season]
2015: 9-4 (losses to WVU, App State, Georgia, and Georgia State)
2016 (so far): 3-3 (losses to Western Michigan, stAte, and GT)
Georgia State
2010: 6-5 (losses to Lambuth, Jacksonville State, Old Dominion, South Alabama, and Alabama)
2011: 4-7 (losses to ODU, JSU, Houston, Murray State, UTSA, St. Francis, and West Alabama)
2012: 1-10 (losses to SC State, Tennessee, Richmond, UTSA, William & Mary, New Hampshire, Villanova, JMU, ODU, and Maine)
2013: 0-12 (losses to Samford, UTC, WVU, JSU, Alabama, Troy, Texas State, ULM, WKU, ULL, stAte, and USA)
2014: 1-11 (losses to NMSU, Air Force, Washington, ULL, stAte, USA, GS, App, Troy, Clemson, and TXST)
2015: 6-7 (losses to Charlotte, Oregon, Liberty, App, stAte, ULL, and San Jose State)
2016 (so far):
Idaho (I know these guys don't really matter, as they are on their way out, but for perception sake)
2010: 6-7 (losses to Nebraska, Colorado State, Louisiana Tech, Hawaii, Nevada, Boise State, and Fresno State)
2011: 2-10 (losses to Bowling Green, Texas A&M, Fresno State, UVA, Louisiana Tech, NMSU, Hawaii, BYU, Utah State, and Nevada)
2012: 1-11 (losses to Eastern Washington, BGSU, LSU, Wyoming, UNC, TXST, LT, SJSU, BYU, UTSA, and Utah State)
2013: 1-11 (losses to UNT, Wyoming, NIU, Washington State, Fresno State, stAte, Ole Miss, TXST, ODU, FSU, and NMSU)
2014: 1-10 (losses to ULM, WMU, Ohio, USA, TXST, GS, stAte, SDSU, Troy, and App)
2015: 4-8 (losses to Ohio, USC, GS, stAte, NMSU, USA, App, and Auburn)
2016 (so far): 4-3 (losses to Washington, Washington State, and Troy)
UL-Lafayette
2010: 3-9 (losses to Georgia, MTSU, OSU, Troy, WKU, Ohio, Ole Miss, FAU, and FIU)
2011: 1-4 (losses to OSU, WKU, stAte, and Arizona) [8 wins vacated, including bowl win]
2012: 5-4 (losses to OSU, UNT, stAte, and Florida) [4 wins vacated]
2013: 1-4 (losses to Arkansas, Kansas State, ULM, and USA) [8 wins vacated]
2014: 7-4 (losses to LT, Ole Miss, Boise State, and App State) [2 wins vacated]
2015: 4-8 (losses to UK, Akron, LT, stAte, USA, NMSU, App, and Troy)
2016 (so far): 2-4 (losses to Boise State, Tulane, NMSU, and App)
UL-Monroe
2010: 5-7 (losses to Arkansas, stAte, Auburn, MTSU, FIU, LSU, and ULL)
2011: 4-8 (losses to FSU, TCU, Iowa, stAte, UNT, WKU, ULL, and FIU)
2012: 8-5 (losses to Auburn, Baylor, ULL, stAte, and Ohio)
2013: 6-6 (losses to Oklahoma, Baylor, Tulane, WKU, stAte, and USA)
2014: 4-7 (losses to LSU, stAte, UK, TXST, Texas A&M, App, and ULL)
2015: 2-11 (losses to UGA, Alabama, GS, Tulsa, App, Idaho, ULL, Troy, stAte, TXST, and Hawaii)
2016 (so far): 2-4 (losses to Oklahoma, GS, Auburn, and Idaho)
New Mexico State (I know these guys don't really matter, as they are on their way out, but for perception sake)
2010: 2-10 (losses to SDSU, UTEP, Kansas, Boise State, Fresno State, Idaho, Utah State, LT, Nevada, and Hawaii)
2011: 4-9 (losses to Ohio, UTEP, SJSU, Hawaii, Nevada, UGA, BYU, LT, and Utah State)
2012: 1-11 (losses to Ohio, UTEP, NM, UTSA, Idaho, Utah State, LT, Auburn, SJSU, BYU, and TXST)
2013: 2-10 (losses to Texas, Minnesota, UTEP, UCLA, SDSU, NM, Rice, ULL, Boston College, and FAU)
2014: 2-10 (losses to UTEP, NM, LSU, GS, Troy, Idaho, TXST, ULL, ULM, and stAte)
2015: 3-9 (losses to Florida, GSU, UTEP, NM, Ole Miss, GS, Troy, stAte, and ULM)
2016 (so far): 2-4 (losses to UTEP, UK, Troy, and Idaho)
South Alabama
2010: 10-0 (no losses)
2011: 6-4 (losses to NC State, Kent State, GSU, and Cal Poly)
2012: 2-11 (losses to UTSA, NCSU, Mississippi State, Troy, stAte, ULM, FIU, UNT, MTSU, ULL, and Hawaii)
2013: 6-6 (losses to Southern Utah, UTK, Troy, TXST, stAte, and Navy)
2014: 6-7 (losses to Mississippi State, GS, ULL, stAte, USC, Navy, and BGSU)
2015: 5-7 (losses to Nebraska, NCSU, stAte, TXST, GS, GSU, and App)
2016 (so far): 3-3 (losses to GS, ULL, and stAte)
Texas State
2010: 4-7 (losses to Houston, Southeastern Louisiana, Nicholls State, Northwestern State, Central Arkansas, McNeese State, and SHSU)
2011: 6-6 (losses to Texas Tech, Wyoming, Southeastern Louisiana, Northwestern State, Central Arkansas, and SHSU)
2012: 4-8 (losses to Texas Tech, Nevada, NM, SJSU, Utah State, LT, Navy, and UTSA)
2013: 6-6 (losses to Texas Tech, ULL, ULM, stAte, WKU, and Troy)
2014: 7-5 (losses to Navy, Illinois, ULL, GS, and USA)
2015: 3-9 (losses to FSU, USM, Houston, ULL, GS, NMSU, GSU, Idaho, and stAte)
2016 (so far): 2-4 (losses to Arkansas, Houston, GS, and ULM)
Troy
2010: 8-5 (losses to OSU, UAB, ULM, FIU, and USC)
2011: 3-9 (losses to Clemson, Arkansas, ULL, ULM, FIU, Navy, UNT, WKU, and stAte)
2012: 5-7 (losses to ULL, Mississippi State, WKU, FAU, UTK, stAte, and MTSU)
2013: 6-6 (losses to stAte, Mississippi State, Duke, ULM, ULL, and Ole Miss)
2014: 3-9 (losses to UAB, Duke, Abilene Christian, UGA, ULM, App, USA, GS, and ULL)
2015: 4-8 (losses to NCSU, Wisconsin, USA, Mississippi State, Idaho, App, GS, and GSU)
2016 (so far): 5-1 (losses to Clemson)
Coastal Carolina
2010: 6-6 (losses to WVU, Towson, GS, Richmond, Stony Brook, and Western Illinois)
2011: 7-4 (losses to UGA, Liberty, Gardner-Webb, and Stony Brook)
2012: 8-5 (losses to Eastern Kentucky, Toledo, App, Stony Brook, and ODU)
2013: 12-3 (losses to Charleston Southern, USC, and NDSU)
2014: 12-2 (losses to Liberty and NDSU)
2015: 9-3 (losses to Charleston Southern, Liberty, and The Citadel)
2016 (so far): 4-2 (losses to Jacksonville State and Charleston Southern)
So, of these 72 seasons, only 26 of them were winning seasons, meaning each team had more wins than they did losses. While you could take away any team that was not a part of the Sun Belt during that span of 2010-2016, including (at different times) App, GS, GSU, CCU, Idaho, NMST, TXST, and USA, each of these teams is important in regards to the perception of the conference. When a conference has members that regularly lose, what does that do to the perception?
At this rate, I question if the Sun Belt can hold together in the long term if losing continues to be a tradition across much of the board. What are your thoughts?
Appalachian State
2010: 10-3 (losses to GS, Florida, and Villanova)
2011: 8-4 (losses to VT, Wofford, Furman, and Maine)
2012: 8-4 (losses to ECU, The Citadel, Wofford, and Illinois State)
2013: 4-8 (losses to Montana, NCA&T, Charleston Southern, The Citadel, Samford, Furman, UTC, and UGA)
2014: 7-5 (losses to Michigan, USM, GS, USA, and Liberty)
2015: 11-2 (losses to Clemson and stAte)
2016 (so far): 4-2 (losses to UTK and Miami)
Arkansas State
2010: 4-8 (losses to ULM, UNT, FAU, and MTSU)
2011: 10-3 (losses to Illinois, VT, and NIU)
2012: 10-3 (losses to Oregon, Nebraska, and WKU)
2013: 8-5 (losses to Auburn, Memphis, Missouri, ULL, and WKU)
2014: 7-6 (losses to Tennessee, Miami, ULL, App State, Texas State, and Toledo)
2015: 9-4 (losses to USC, Missouri, Toledo, and Louisiana Tech)
2016 (so far): 2-4 (losses to Toledo, Auburn, Utah State, and Central Arkansas)
Georgia Southern
2010: 10-5 (losses to Navy, Wofford, UTC, Samford, and Delaware)
2011: 11-3 (losses to App State, Alabama, and NDSU)
2012: 10-4 (losses to The Citadel, App State, Georgia, and NDSU)
2013: 5-4 (losses to Wofford, Samford, App State, and Furman) [2 wins vacated this season]
2014: 8-3 (losses to NC State, Georgia Tech, and Navy) [1 win vacated this season]
2015: 9-4 (losses to WVU, App State, Georgia, and Georgia State)
2016 (so far): 3-3 (losses to Western Michigan, stAte, and GT)
Georgia State
2010: 6-5 (losses to Lambuth, Jacksonville State, Old Dominion, South Alabama, and Alabama)
2011: 4-7 (losses to ODU, JSU, Houston, Murray State, UTSA, St. Francis, and West Alabama)
2012: 1-10 (losses to SC State, Tennessee, Richmond, UTSA, William & Mary, New Hampshire, Villanova, JMU, ODU, and Maine)
2013: 0-12 (losses to Samford, UTC, WVU, JSU, Alabama, Troy, Texas State, ULM, WKU, ULL, stAte, and USA)
2014: 1-11 (losses to NMSU, Air Force, Washington, ULL, stAte, USA, GS, App, Troy, Clemson, and TXST)
2015: 6-7 (losses to Charlotte, Oregon, Liberty, App, stAte, ULL, and San Jose State)
2016 (so far):
Idaho (I know these guys don't really matter, as they are on their way out, but for perception sake)
2010: 6-7 (losses to Nebraska, Colorado State, Louisiana Tech, Hawaii, Nevada, Boise State, and Fresno State)
2011: 2-10 (losses to Bowling Green, Texas A&M, Fresno State, UVA, Louisiana Tech, NMSU, Hawaii, BYU, Utah State, and Nevada)
2012: 1-11 (losses to Eastern Washington, BGSU, LSU, Wyoming, UNC, TXST, LT, SJSU, BYU, UTSA, and Utah State)
2013: 1-11 (losses to UNT, Wyoming, NIU, Washington State, Fresno State, stAte, Ole Miss, TXST, ODU, FSU, and NMSU)
2014: 1-10 (losses to ULM, WMU, Ohio, USA, TXST, GS, stAte, SDSU, Troy, and App)
2015: 4-8 (losses to Ohio, USC, GS, stAte, NMSU, USA, App, and Auburn)
2016 (so far): 4-3 (losses to Washington, Washington State, and Troy)
UL-Lafayette
2010: 3-9 (losses to Georgia, MTSU, OSU, Troy, WKU, Ohio, Ole Miss, FAU, and FIU)
2011: 1-4 (losses to OSU, WKU, stAte, and Arizona) [8 wins vacated, including bowl win]
2012: 5-4 (losses to OSU, UNT, stAte, and Florida) [4 wins vacated]
2013: 1-4 (losses to Arkansas, Kansas State, ULM, and USA) [8 wins vacated]
2014: 7-4 (losses to LT, Ole Miss, Boise State, and App State) [2 wins vacated]
2015: 4-8 (losses to UK, Akron, LT, stAte, USA, NMSU, App, and Troy)
2016 (so far): 2-4 (losses to Boise State, Tulane, NMSU, and App)
UL-Monroe
2010: 5-7 (losses to Arkansas, stAte, Auburn, MTSU, FIU, LSU, and ULL)
2011: 4-8 (losses to FSU, TCU, Iowa, stAte, UNT, WKU, ULL, and FIU)
2012: 8-5 (losses to Auburn, Baylor, ULL, stAte, and Ohio)
2013: 6-6 (losses to Oklahoma, Baylor, Tulane, WKU, stAte, and USA)
2014: 4-7 (losses to LSU, stAte, UK, TXST, Texas A&M, App, and ULL)
2015: 2-11 (losses to UGA, Alabama, GS, Tulsa, App, Idaho, ULL, Troy, stAte, TXST, and Hawaii)
2016 (so far): 2-4 (losses to Oklahoma, GS, Auburn, and Idaho)
New Mexico State (I know these guys don't really matter, as they are on their way out, but for perception sake)
2010: 2-10 (losses to SDSU, UTEP, Kansas, Boise State, Fresno State, Idaho, Utah State, LT, Nevada, and Hawaii)
2011: 4-9 (losses to Ohio, UTEP, SJSU, Hawaii, Nevada, UGA, BYU, LT, and Utah State)
2012: 1-11 (losses to Ohio, UTEP, NM, UTSA, Idaho, Utah State, LT, Auburn, SJSU, BYU, and TXST)
2013: 2-10 (losses to Texas, Minnesota, UTEP, UCLA, SDSU, NM, Rice, ULL, Boston College, and FAU)
2014: 2-10 (losses to UTEP, NM, LSU, GS, Troy, Idaho, TXST, ULL, ULM, and stAte)
2015: 3-9 (losses to Florida, GSU, UTEP, NM, Ole Miss, GS, Troy, stAte, and ULM)
2016 (so far): 2-4 (losses to UTEP, UK, Troy, and Idaho)
South Alabama
2010: 10-0 (no losses)
2011: 6-4 (losses to NC State, Kent State, GSU, and Cal Poly)
2012: 2-11 (losses to UTSA, NCSU, Mississippi State, Troy, stAte, ULM, FIU, UNT, MTSU, ULL, and Hawaii)
2013: 6-6 (losses to Southern Utah, UTK, Troy, TXST, stAte, and Navy)
2014: 6-7 (losses to Mississippi State, GS, ULL, stAte, USC, Navy, and BGSU)
2015: 5-7 (losses to Nebraska, NCSU, stAte, TXST, GS, GSU, and App)
2016 (so far): 3-3 (losses to GS, ULL, and stAte)
Texas State
2010: 4-7 (losses to Houston, Southeastern Louisiana, Nicholls State, Northwestern State, Central Arkansas, McNeese State, and SHSU)
2011: 6-6 (losses to Texas Tech, Wyoming, Southeastern Louisiana, Northwestern State, Central Arkansas, and SHSU)
2012: 4-8 (losses to Texas Tech, Nevada, NM, SJSU, Utah State, LT, Navy, and UTSA)
2013: 6-6 (losses to Texas Tech, ULL, ULM, stAte, WKU, and Troy)
2014: 7-5 (losses to Navy, Illinois, ULL, GS, and USA)
2015: 3-9 (losses to FSU, USM, Houston, ULL, GS, NMSU, GSU, Idaho, and stAte)
2016 (so far): 2-4 (losses to Arkansas, Houston, GS, and ULM)
Troy
2010: 8-5 (losses to OSU, UAB, ULM, FIU, and USC)
2011: 3-9 (losses to Clemson, Arkansas, ULL, ULM, FIU, Navy, UNT, WKU, and stAte)
2012: 5-7 (losses to ULL, Mississippi State, WKU, FAU, UTK, stAte, and MTSU)
2013: 6-6 (losses to stAte, Mississippi State, Duke, ULM, ULL, and Ole Miss)
2014: 3-9 (losses to UAB, Duke, Abilene Christian, UGA, ULM, App, USA, GS, and ULL)
2015: 4-8 (losses to NCSU, Wisconsin, USA, Mississippi State, Idaho, App, GS, and GSU)
2016 (so far): 5-1 (losses to Clemson)
Coastal Carolina
2010: 6-6 (losses to WVU, Towson, GS, Richmond, Stony Brook, and Western Illinois)
2011: 7-4 (losses to UGA, Liberty, Gardner-Webb, and Stony Brook)
2012: 8-5 (losses to Eastern Kentucky, Toledo, App, Stony Brook, and ODU)
2013: 12-3 (losses to Charleston Southern, USC, and NDSU)
2014: 12-2 (losses to Liberty and NDSU)
2015: 9-3 (losses to Charleston Southern, Liberty, and The Citadel)
2016 (so far): 4-2 (losses to Jacksonville State and Charleston Southern)
So, of these 72 seasons, only 26 of them were winning seasons, meaning each team had more wins than they did losses. While you could take away any team that was not a part of the Sun Belt during that span of 2010-2016, including (at different times) App, GS, GSU, CCU, Idaho, NMST, TXST, and USA, each of these teams is important in regards to the perception of the conference. When a conference has members that regularly lose, what does that do to the perception?
At this rate, I question if the Sun Belt can hold together in the long term if losing continues to be a tradition across much of the board. What are your thoughts?