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Unread post by WVAPPeer » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:21 pm

I really like the way this guy thinks - he clearly has respect for our APP State Mountaineers ---

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The Dude Abides!!!

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Unread post by ASU84 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:33 pm

A lot of respect, or he's been in the sauce.

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Unread post by Stonewall » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:49 pm

...or both...

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Unread post by ericsaid » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:06 pm

If you all could read, you would take note of the fact that his poll is based upon a mathematic formula and isn't subjective (though there is likely some bias in his formula that would be hard to sort out without quite a few years of data). Regardless, his opinion doesn't have much to do with where teams are ranked.

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Unread post by Yosef10 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:18 pm

^^ seems like a fun guy.

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Unread post by AppAlum1 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:19 pm

ericsaid wrote:If you all could read, you would take note of the fact that his poll is based upon a mathematic formula and isn't subjective (though there is likely some bias in his formula that would be hard to sort out without quite a few years of data). Regardless, his opinion doesn't have much to do with where teams are ranked.
True that. Mr. Fornelli does not appear to trouble himself with the scientific method either. The fact that he does not wish to share his "formula" is itself suspect.

That "formula" could be the stair-step method. You know, the one we all suspected our 8th grade teacher used ? Go to the top of the stairs & throw those test papers down the steps. The ones at the top got an "A", and so forth until they got all the way down to the bottom, an "F".

App at 14 ??? Nice. But, that is ridiculous.

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Unread post by SpeedkingATL » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:38 pm

He must reside in a state where Mary Jane is legal and smokes frequently. If App had beaten UT and Troy maybe........

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Unread post by NoLongerLurking » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:47 pm

It's published. It made me smile. Thumbs up. Go Apps!

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Unread post by newtoasu » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:49 pm

AppAlum1 wrote:
ericsaid wrote:If you all could read, you would take note of the fact that his poll is based upon a mathematic formula and isn't subjective (though there is likely some bias in his formula that would be hard to sort out without quite a few years of data). Regardless, his opinion doesn't have much to do with where teams are ranked.
True that. Mr. Fornelli does not appear to trouble himself with the scientific method either. The fact that he does not wish to share his "formula" is itself suspect.

That "formula" could be the stair-step method. You know, the one we all suspected our 8th grade teacher used ? Go to the top of the stairs & throw those test papers down the steps. The ones at the top got an "A", and so forth until they got all the way down to the bottom, an "F".

App at 14 ??? Nice. But, that is ridiculous.
As a current professor I can tell you have not spent numerous years in graduate study to perfect this grading technique. The literature in the field is quite extensive and shows that the ones that travel the farthest get their well deserved "A" because of the sheer weight and amount of work that went into that paper. The lightweight papers fall near he top of the stairs and get a deserved "F" grade. In the spirit of fairness though, both methods are mentioned in the definitive literature study on the case to date:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140414 ... ding-exams

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Unread post by AppAlum1 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:53 pm

newtoasu wrote:[
As a current professor I can tell you have not spent numerous years in graduate study to perfect this grading technique. The literature in the field is quite extensive and shows that the ones that travel the farthest get their well deserved "A" because of the sheer weight and amount of work that went into that paper. The lightweight papers fall near he top of the stairs and get a deserved "F" grade. In the spirit of fairness though, both methods are mentioned in the definitive literature study on the case to date:

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140414 ... ding-exams[/quote]

You mean ... I had them BACKERDS!?!?!?!?! No wonder school was so hard. Chit.

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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:30 pm

No joke- my senior year at App I had a business professor who on day 1 scanned the class and proclaimed the breakdown of his final grades for us. Imagine the horror hearing how many A's and how many F's there would be at the end. More of the latter. I was hanging out with some buddies after exams waiting on graduation and we had a few chilly beverages. I went to check my grade and it was lower than expected. Guess I had some courage so I inquired about the grade, made my case for it to be raised based on classroom participation. Guess he appreciated my effort so he bumped it up. Completely irrelevant but I just recalled it because of the other grade method mentioned.

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