just got more meaningful with their win over #24 Temple

They had an incredible first half but an awful second half. They're lucky to have hung on to win by the end.

They lost their starting QB prior to the second half, I think.

WataugaMan wrote:They lost their starting QB prior to the second half, I think.

Was it 2nd quarter? I thought it was the beginning of the 3rd that their QB went down. Regardless, this was a tale of two halves. WFU played like chit in the 2nd half & looked unbeatable in the 1st.

IMO, Wake's injured QB was not the cause of their malaise. There's plenty of blame to go around.

8993 wrote:They had an incredible first half but an awful second half. They're lucky to have hung on to win by the end.

True of their whole season. They were 5-1 after six games, but finished 6-6 in the regular season. Middling (or even poor) offense for most of the season, but solid defense.

Wake would have been an easy draw in, say, 2014 (when they lost to a middle-of-the-pack ULM team and went 3-9) or 2015 (also 3-9 when their only wins were against Elon and truly terrible Army and BC teams). This game will be no walk in the park.

Agreed. Wake had a Jekyll & Hyde season. It's a bit fitting their bowl game was a microcosm of their regular season. Started hot and finished frozen. The Deacon defense was vastly improved in 2016 and kept them in games, even when their offense stuttered.

I don't know what they're bringing back in 2017, but based on what little I saw of them in 2016, it could be a 13-10 type of game with App State.

Amazing how well you can play when the opposing team doesn't have your playbook

Wake was 6-6 going into the bowl. A win against them is not going to get attention from anybody. They are a P5 in name only. The game will be fun due to our history and proximity.

I am looking forward to this game due to proximity only. This was always a slobber knocker back in the day due to geography between the two schools. However, let's please please please not blow this one up like we did Miami. If we play hard nosed App brand football, we should be very competitive in this match up.

MDaniels84 wrote:I am looking forward to this game due to proximity only. This was always a slobber knocker back in the day due to geography between the two schools. However, let's please please please not blow this one up like we did Miami. If we play hard nosed App brand football, we should be very competitive in this match up.

Yes! I agree completely. Coach should have sat the whole team down 15 minutes before the Miami kickoff and done Yoga.

I trust we learned something from that experience.

bcoach wrote:Wake was 6-6 going into the bowl. A win against them is not going to get attention from anybody. They are a P5 in name only. The game will be fun due to our history and proximity.

See Western Michigan's season for disproving this point.

ericsaid wrote:

bcoach wrote:Wake was 6-6 going into the bowl. A win against them is not going to get attention from anybody. They are a P5 in name only. The game will be fun due to our history and proximity.

See Western Michigan's season for disproving this point.

They ran the table and beat two P5 teams. I realize that one was Illinois but the fact is that they also ran the table. Now if we ran the table with Georgia being one of the wins that is a different story. My comment is that beating Wake is just no big deal outside of NC.

I work for their hospital, so I look forward to hopefully a win for App for bragging rights.

biggie wrote:I work for their hospital, so I look forward to hopefully a win for App for bragging rights.

Since you're the King, what is your early prediction?

bcoach wrote:

ericsaid wrote:

bcoach wrote:Wake was 6-6 going into the bowl. A win against them is not going to get attention from anybody. They are a P5 in name only. The game will be fun due to our history and proximity.

See Western Michigan's season for disproving this point.

They ran the table and beat two P5 teams. I realize that one was Illinois but the fact is that they also ran the table. Now if we ran the table with Georgia being one of the wins that is a different story. My comment is that beating Wake is just no big deal outside of NC.

In a one game vacuum I agree with you coach. I do think it will get a couple mentions here and there if we beat WFU, even if we do lose to UGA simply because it will be easy words for sportscenter anchors to regurgitate "app beats P5 for the first time since Michigan". Something along those lines. But no major attention. Obviously if we're 3 or 4-0 after the WFU game then I think we'd be getting a good deal of attention.

Yosef10 wrote:

bcoach wrote:

ericsaid wrote:

bcoach wrote:Wake was 6-6 going into the bowl. A win against them is not going to get attention from anybody. They are a P5 in name only. The game will be fun due to our history and proximity.

See Western Michigan's season for disproving this point.

They ran the table and beat two P5 teams. I realize that one was Illinois but the fact is that they also ran the table. Now if we ran the table with Georgia being one of the wins that is a different story. My comment is that beating Wake is just no big deal outside of NC.

In a one game vacuum I agree with you coach. I do think it will get a couple mentions here and there if we beat WFU, even if we do lose to UGA simply because it will be easy words for sportscenter anchors to regurgitate "app beats P5 for the first time since Michigan". Something along those lines. But no major attention. Obviously if we're 3 or 4-0 after the WFU game then I think we'd be getting a good deal of attention.

Agreed

biggie wrote:I work for their hospital, so I look forward to hopefully a win for App for bragging rights.

My wife works there also. I am looking for a win also.

Kind of off subject on this post but it would be cool to go old school black and gold vs wakes same old black and gold. Old school gold helmet with Yosef black outline. Back in the day it was hard to tell difference in uniforms especially the helmets. Always was a good game with them

bcoach wrote:

ericsaid wrote:

bcoach wrote:Wake was 6-6 going into the bowl. A win against them is not going to get attention from anybody. They are a P5 in name only. The game will be fun due to our history and proximity.

See Western Michigan's season for disproving this point.

They ran the table and beat two P5 teams. I realize that one was Illinois but the fact is that they also ran the table. Now if we ran the table with Georgia being one of the wins that is a different story. My comment is that beating Wake is just no big deal outside of NC.

Agree that beating Wake alone wouldn't be considered a big deal nationally. But I do think if we went, say, 11-1 with a loss to UGA, at least having a win over a P5 (and maybe a respectable one if this season is any indication) would put us in the running for the NY6 if there's no unbeaten G5 team.

Regardless, beating Wake would be very important for a number of reasons beyond rankings/bowl games for next year.

BUTCH1991 wrote:

biggie wrote:I work for their hospital, so I look forward to hopefully a win for App for bragging rights.

Since you're the King, what is your early prediction?

Will depend on our WRs/passing game and front D at the time and I know very little about Wake details at this point.

But rough really early guess:
Wake - 21
Apps - 28