Satt was a player from 1991-1995, Asst. Coach 1998-2008, 2012, HC 2013-today.

What was the best App team without him?

The 1975 team that beat SC, Wake, and ECU.

Agree. '75.

I'm not sure I'm comfortable giving that title to a team that lost to WCU.

I'm not enough of a historian to really give an informed answer, but '09 was pretty dang good.

EastHallApp wrote:I'm not enough of a historian to really give an informed answer, but '09 was pretty dang good.

If '09 was the season when Brian Quick dropped the ball at the goal line against Montana, I agree.

JTApps1 wrote:The 1975 team that beat SC, Wake, and ECU.

I agree also; the loss to UCLA notwithstanding. To beat ECU, and ACC team and a former ACC team is quite credible.

Lost in this discussion is the team that none of us ever saw play and that was 1968. Finished 8-2 in the old NAIA Carolinas Conference. Yes, I know....NAIA but still a great team. Ron Kanoy (former AT who's seen App football since 1965) told me it was probably the only team he'd ever seen that could score with one play from any spot on the field. Of course the teams with Armanti might argue that point today.

scatman77 wrote:

JTApps1 wrote:The 1975 team that beat SC, Wake, and ECU.

I agree also; the loss to UCLA notwithstanding. To beat ECU, and ACC team and a former ACC team is quite credible.

Lost in this discussion is the team that none of us ever saw play and that was 1968. Finished 8-2 in the old NAIA Carolinas Conference. Yes, I know....NAIA but still a great team. Ron Kanoy (former AT who's seen App football since 1965) told me it was probably the only team he'd ever seen that could score with one play from any spot on the field. Of course the teams with Armanti might argue that point today.

II was there and you are correct, that team could score from any point with one play - run or pass.

EastHallApp wrote:I'm not enough of a historian to really give an informed answer, but '09 was pretty dang good.

Going to agree that 2009 is the best bet here, purely because of #14.

MDaniels84 wrote:

EastHallApp wrote:I'm not enough of a historian to really give an informed answer, but '09 was pretty dang good.

If '09 was the season when Brian Quick dropped the ball at the goal line against Montana, I agree.

That was my first as a student. I didn't want to watch the highlights from that game until the following season.

Soul crushing drop.

The 1937 team has to be mentioned since they were undefeated and unscored upon

'86 and '87 started winning expectations of today.

Who did 1968 team lose to? Could they beat 1975 team? Could 1975 team beat 1989 team?

That is how I would compare them.

Saint3333 wrote:I'm not sure I'm comfortable giving that title to a team that lost to WCU.

To be fair, WCU was actually a solid program back in those days plus we were just a few years removed from NAIA at that point. The 09 was VERY good, but all things considered the accomplishments of 1975 were better to me.

The 09 team only beat a 2 win WCU squad by 5 BTW...

JTApps1 wrote:

Saint3333 wrote:I'm not sure I'm comfortable giving that title to a team that lost to WCU.

To be fair, WCU was actually a solid program back in those days plus we were just a few years removed from NAIA at that point. The 09 was VERY good, but all things considered the accomplishments of 1975 were better to me.

The 09 team only beat a 2 win WCU squad by 5 BTW...

I tend to think of '09 as better than '08, but when I look back at their results, I guess that's because '09 was better in the playoffs. '08 was probably a little more dominant in the regular season, but didn't play their best at all in the playoffs.

I agree with Scatman and a few others of that vintage. The 1975 team was special and I was fortunate enough to be at the USC, Wake and ECU victories (as was Scatman). In Columbia we played "Carolina In The Pines" a hundred times in a row at a local watering hole jukebox singing at the top of our lungs until management had enough and kicked us out. One of the highlights of my App years.

How good was USC in '75?

AtlAppMan wrote:How good was USC in '75?

Look up running backs Kevin Long and Clarence Williams, QB Jeff Grantz, LB Steve Prezioso. You'll see that they had a very solid team.

AtlAppMan wrote:How good was USC in '75?

7-5, had what appear to be some decent wins: http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sch ... edule.html

JTApps1 wrote:

Saint3333 wrote:I'm not sure I'm comfortable giving that title to a team that lost to WCU.

To be fair, WCU was actually a solid program back in those days plus we were just a few years removed from NAIA at that point. The 09 was VERY good, but all things considered the accomplishments of 1975 were better to me.

The 09 team only beat a 2 win WCU squad by 5 BTW...

With Armanti dressed but not playing and our running back, Travaris Cadet starting the game at QB.