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Unread post by T-Dog » Sun May 14, 2017 8:42 pm

The most realistic final score on that list is the 48-0 over Savannah State.

Idaho scoring the most points against us wouldn't surprise me. They still got Linehan who is probably the best QB in the conference.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Sun May 14, 2017 10:33 pm

I'll be the requisite buzzkill who points out that having us favored in 11 games isn't the same as projecting that we'll go 11-1. But still, not bad. Maybe the highest praise there is giving us a 41% chance vs. Georgia.

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Unread post by sixtoes9134 » Mon May 15, 2017 8:01 am

I know we have some depth, finally, but the losses of Collins, Collmar, Cox on offense and Small, Fernandez, Gilchrist, Williams, Law on defense are going to be felt, early on in my opinion, and depth at NT isn't what is was last two years. I hope I am wrong, but see 11-1 as a real stretch.

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Unread post by Bearboy » Mon May 15, 2017 1:17 pm

sixtoes9134 wrote:I know we have some depth, finally, but the losses of Collins, Collmar, Cox on offense and Small, Fernandez, Gilchrist, Williams, Law on defense are going to be felt, early on in my opinion, and depth at NT isn't what is was last two years. I hope I am wrong, but see 11-1 as a real stretch.
Biggest loss on offense is Collins. Biggest loss on defense is Gilchrist. I feel good about all those other guys being replaced with great players. Don't forget we have some guys returning that have played a lot on the defensive side of the ball. Don't think we'll miss a beat there. Probably will be better than last year. My only concern on the offensive side is the nastiness of Parker being absent!

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Re: 11-1 and SBC champs per Massey Ratings

Unread post by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 » Mon May 15, 2017 2:18 pm

Bearboy wrote:
sixtoes9134 wrote:I know we have some depth, finally, but the losses of Collins, Collmar, Cox on offense and Small, Fernandez, Gilchrist, Williams, Law on defense are going to be felt, early on in my opinion, and depth at NT isn't what is was last two years. I hope I am wrong, but see 11-1 as a real stretch.
Biggest loss on offense is Collins. Biggest loss on defense is Gilchrist. I feel good about all those other guys being replaced with great players. Don't forget we have some guys returning that have played a lot on the defensive side of the ball. Don't think we'll miss a beat there. Probably will be better than last year. My only concern on the offensive side is the nastiness of Parker being absent!
There should be less 15 yard penalties
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Unread post by Bearboy » Mon May 15, 2017 8:41 pm

/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 wrote:
Bearboy wrote:
sixtoes9134 wrote:I know we have some depth, finally, but the losses of Collins, Collmar, Cox on offense and Small, Fernandez, Gilchrist, Williams, Law on defense are going to be felt, early on in my opinion, and depth at NT isn't what is was last two years. I hope I am wrong, but see 11-1 as a real stretch.
Biggest loss on offense is Collins. Biggest loss on defense is Gilchrist. I feel good about all those other guys being replaced with great players. Don't forget we have some guys returning that have played a lot on the defensive side of the ball. Don't think we'll miss a beat there. Probably will be better than last year. My only concern on the offensive side is the nastiness of Parker being absent!
There should be less 15 yard penalties
You have a point there for sure! Parker just couldn't help himself sometimes! :D

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Unread post by WataugaMan » Tue May 16, 2017 5:49 am

Many times those 15 yard penalties were committed at the worst possible time, like at Troy last season.

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Unread post by AtlAppMan » Tue May 16, 2017 11:53 am

Yes 11-1 is a stretch but possible.

This also shows that 12-0 is within reach. You have to aim high if you are going to accomplish big things.

It would be a fun ride to see App roll to a 13-0 2017 season in year 3. That would put us squarely finishing in the top 25.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Tue May 16, 2017 12:08 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:Yes 11-1 is a stretch but possible.

This also shows that 12-0 is within reach. You have to aim high if you are going to accomplish big things.

It would be a fun ride to see App roll to a 13-0 2017 season in year 3. That would put us squarely finishing in the top 25.

Yea Baby!!!
That might put us in the top 10.

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Unread post by yosef13 » Tue May 16, 2017 12:26 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
AtlAppMan wrote:Yes 11-1 is a stretch but possible.

This also shows that 12-0 is within reach. You have to aim high if you are going to accomplish big things.

It would be a fun ride to see App roll to a 13-0 2017 season in year 3. That would put us squarely finishing in the top 25.

Yea Baby!!!
That might put us in the top 10.
It would be a WMU type season for sure. It will be difficult, but it's possible.

Could you imagine ESPN Gameday in Boone!?!?

I think we end up 10-2 again. Lose to UGA, beat WFU, and drop one SB game. That would be a hell of a season!

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Unread post by ericsaid » Wed May 17, 2017 6:41 pm

T-Dog wrote:The most realistic final score on that list is the 48-0 over Savannah State.

Idaho scoring the most points against us wouldn't surprise me. They still got Linehan who is probably the best QB in the conference.
Most of the games look relatively close to realistic including Georgia State, UMass, ULL, Texas State, etc. The Miami shellshock has not worn off so I'll withhold judgment on the Wake game.

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Unread post by AtlAppMan » Wed May 17, 2017 6:53 pm

I hope the Miami debacle teaches our team a lesson. I don't think our guys will make the same mistake two years in a row. They now know when a P5 comes to Boone they will be motivated to bring their A game because they don't think they should be playing us in our house. We have to be prepared to punch them in the face and play 60 minutes of premium ball.

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Unread post by AppAlum1 » Thu May 18, 2017 10:54 am

AtlAppMan wrote:I hope the Miami debacle teaches our team a lesson. I don't think our guys will make the same mistake two years in a row. They now know when a P5 comes to Boone they will be motivated to bring their A game because they don't think they should be playing us in our house. We have to be prepared to punch them in the face and play 60 minutes of premium ball.

I agree we won't make the same mistake with another ACC in our house this year. BUT, I completely disagree with you about what the mistake last year was. Against Miami, App was so excited that such a team was up here, we overran plays, over threw passes, over blocked schemes, over slobbered, over coached, over breathed, over everything-ed. All we needed to have done was just calm the hell down and play App football. That's all.

This year, Coach needs to have the team relax; do yoga, whatever it takes to calm down and focus on playing football.

To quote Jackie Chan: Your focus needs more focus.

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Unread post by moonshine » Thu May 18, 2017 11:24 am

http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/fbs/ratings

G5 Rankings:

1. WMU (28) MAC
2. WKU (29) CUSA
3. App (40) SB
4. Temple (43) AAC
5. USF (46) AAC
6. Toledo (49) MAC
7. SDSU (50) MWC
8. Tulsa (51)AAC
9. Houston (53) AAC
10. Boise (54) MWC

Sun Belt (six below 100)
40. App State
67. Troy
73. A-State
83. Idaho
88. Georgia Southern
98. Louisiana
108. South Alabama
111. Coastal Carolina
113. Georgia State
118. ULM
119. NMSU
129. Texas State

CUSA (nine below 100)
29. WKU
68. Louisiana Tech
81. ODU
91. Southern Miss
95. UTSA
103. MTSU
120. North Texas
121. FIU
122. Marshall
123. FAU
124. Rice
126. Charlotte
127. UTEP
130. UAB

MAC (five below 100)
28. WMU
49. Toledo
80. Ohio
85. NIU
93. Miami OH
94. EMU
96. CMU
102. Bowling Green
107. Akron
110. Ball State
115. Kent State
128. Buffalo

American (four below 100)
43. Temple
46. USF
51. Tulsa
53. Houston
63. Navy
64. Memphis
84. SMU
86. UCF
100. Tulane
101. Cincinnati
106. East Carolina
117. UConn

MWC (five below 100)
50. SDSU
54. Boise State
70. Air Force
74. Colorado State
77. Wyoming
87. New Mexico
90. Utah State
105. Hawaii
109. San Jose State
112. Nevada
116. UNLV
125. Fresno State
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Unread post by AtlAppMan » Thu May 18, 2017 10:44 pm

AppAlum1 wrote:I agree we won't make the same mistake with another ACC in our house this year. BUT, I completely disagree with you about what the mistake last year was. Against Miami, App was so excited that such a team was up here, we overran plays, over threw passes, over blocked schemes, over slobbered, over coached, over breathed, over everything-ed. All we needed to have done was just calm the hell down and play App football. That's all.

This year, Coach needs to have the team relax; do yoga, whatever it takes to calm down and focus on playing football.

To quote Jackie Chan: Your focus needs more focus.
You just described a bunch of mistakes, isn't that a debacle? I think you kind of summarized my point in a more verbose form. :D

One key point I think occurred is Mark Richt seriously outcoached Satt. Unlike he UT game, The U hit us everywhere we had a weakness and we were not prepared.

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Unread post by CVAPP » Thu May 18, 2017 11:57 pm

AtlAppMan wrote:
AppAlum1 wrote:I agree we won't make the same mistake with another ACC in our house this year. BUT, I completely disagree with you about what the mistake last year was. Against Miami, App was so excited that such a team was up here, we overran plays, over threw passes, over blocked schemes, over slobbered, over coached, over breathed, over everything-ed. All we needed to have done was just calm the hell down and play App football. That's all.

This year, Coach needs to have the team relax; do yoga, whatever it takes to calm down and focus on playing football.

To quote Jackie Chan: Your focus needs more focus.
You just described a bunch of mistakes, isn't that a debacle? I think you kind of summarized my point in a more verbose form. :D

One key point I think occurred is Mark Richt seriously outcoached Satt. Unlike he UT game, The U hit us everywhere we had a weakness and we were not prepared.
If I recall correctly, Miami went to a no huddle fast paced attack and exposed a weakness others later tried to exploit...less successfully. So I will agree with getting outcoached. I don't know if our players were not emotionally prepared for the game.

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Unread post by QueencityApp » Fri May 19, 2017 6:38 am

CVAPP wrote:
AtlAppMan wrote:
AppAlum1 wrote:I agree we won't make the same mistake with another ACC in our house this year. BUT, I completely disagree with you about what the mistake last year was. Against Miami, App was so excited that such a team was up here, we overran plays, over threw passes, over blocked schemes, over slobbered, over coached, over breathed, over everything-ed. All we needed to have done was just calm the hell down and play App football. That's all.

This year, Coach needs to have the team relax; do yoga, whatever it takes to calm down and focus on playing football.

To quote Jackie Chan: Your focus needs more focus.
You just described a bunch of mistakes, isn't that a debacle? I think you kind of summarized my point in a more verbose form. :D

One key point I think occurred is Mark Richt seriously outcoached Satt. Unlike he UT game, The U hit us everywhere we had a weakness and we were not prepared.
If I recall correctly, Miami went to a no huddle fast paced attack and exposed a weakness others later tried to exploit...less successfully. So I will agree with getting outcoached. I don't know if our players were not emotionally prepared for the game.
Clemson a few years ago and Miami last year moved so quick between the 20's with bubble passes because our corners were playing so soft. Hopefully with the experience we have in that area of the defense this year we can play more aggressive without the fear of getting beat deep. Our defense holds the run pretty well, will be interesting to see how they fair against Georgia's bruisers.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri May 19, 2017 9:26 am

Miami had something Tennessee didn't have - a QB who could throw NFL-quality deep balls - and bunch of big, fast receivers. I am still skeptical of the whole idea that we just somehow weren't mentally prepared for them. I think we just got our butts kicked. Yes we made some mistakes but I'm not convinced it was because we held a pep rally or whatever.

Wake is an improving program but we will not be at anywhere near the athletic disadvantage we were vs. Miami.

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