SI ranks top 30 coaching candidates for 2017

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Unread post by 85gradinATL » Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:03 pm

Sat is #3 among current head coaches...

https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... ants-hires

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Re: SI ranks top 30 coaching candidates for 2017

Unread post by yosefederation » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:45 am

"When", not if, (we all know it's a formality) I feel confident it will be a better/high profile position than the Dire straits situation the next head coach of U. Mississippi will inherit. Meanwhile, hopefully the powers that be, will put together a new package deal to retain his services for a few more seasons, before a power five conference school, with their blank check resources, comes in scoops him away. Imo GO APPS!

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Re: SI ranks top 30 coaching candidates for 2017

Unread post by Yosef10 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:58 am

I don't have a problem with Satt leaving and I want him to be successful when he does so. I don't think Ole Miss would be a good destination for him, or really anyone, as mentioned in the article. That place is where coaches go to die unless you order escorts and pay family bills.

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Unread post by AtlAppMan » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:45 am

The seemingly most likely destination for Satt would an ACC or SEC job.

A move to the SEC will come with high salary accompanied with a very high level of pressure to deliver. Some SEC gigs are not that good. The ones that are will absolutely come with all kinds of pressures, so you better be prepared for a 180 degree difference in professional lifestyle change between App/Boone and the SEC.

The ACC, depending on school, might be a little easier than SEC from a pure professional pressure perspective but again still be worlds different than Boone. There are some good ACC destinations and also some that would be a bad destination.

Regardless, Satt and his family are going to have to decide what they want professionally and for his family because this decision will change everything about their worlds.

If he makes a move I want only the best for him and his family so I hope it is a good place that will appreciate him and he will prosper.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:49 am

If Satt leaves in the next 2-3 years, my guess is his next job will be either low- to midlevel ACC or high-level AAC. If he sticks around long enough to build App to a perennial top 25 team, he might get something a little higher up the chain.

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Unread post by moonshine » Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:25 am

Which coaches would Satt take with him?

Most of the big time programs want instant gratification within year 1 but most definitely finding success by year 2. IMO, Woody is a great DC and it takes time (at least 2-3 years) for him to implement his system. If he were to go with Satt, would these big time programs/fan bases have enough patience and give him the time needed to get his 3-4 scheme in place?
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Unread post by ASUGoose » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:18 pm

If we continue to trajectory of success we are on currently, DG will have to look at a longer term extension to keep Satt around (possibly up to 8 years up to 2026). We certainly can't compete $$ wise with bigger schools but we could offer a longer term guaranteed contract than what they would typically offer. Let's not forget about the assistant coaches as well. Need to take care of them as well to set Satt up for continued success. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out after this season.

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Unread post by appchicago » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:40 pm

They're just spitballing with Ole Miss. I don't think it's a good fit for Satt. Plus I think the way they packaged his record (21 wins in the last two seasons after going 4-8 and 7-5) while factually correct, undersells him big-time. It doesn't mention the FCS-FBS transition, the crazy 1-5 to 7-5 turnaround, the bowl wins, etc. It'll all come into the conversation if we, say, knock off UGA, or even keep it close and run the table otherwise.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:54 pm

ASUGoose wrote:If we continue to trajectory of success we are on currently, DG will have to look at a longer term extension to keep Satt around (possibly up to 8 years up to 2026). We certainly can't compete $$ wise with bigger schools but we could offer a longer term guaranteed contract than what they would typically offer. Let's not forget about the assistant coaches as well. Need to take care of them as well to set Satt up for continued success. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out after this season.
I doubt a super-long-term deal would be all that appealing TBH. What difference would locking him in for eight years make when he'd make the same amount in his first 2-3 years at a P5?

Anyway, if a guy like Satt took a job at a P5 and got fired after a few years, he'd not only be set for life financially, but he'd likely have no trouble landing a lucrative gig as a P5 OC or G5 HC. Heck we might even bring him back for another run here.

I do agree with you on staff raises, though.

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Unread post by bigdaddyg » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:22 pm

Ok here is the plan. He can take a nice gig at $2M per and I'll take over at App for only $500k per for say, 3 years. He will be at some dilusional SEC school with more money than sense. He will go about 8-4 each year but that won't be good enough, will get fired with a load of cash. I'll retire and let him take back over and we keep kicking ass.

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Unread post by ASUGoose » Fri Aug 25, 2017 1:48 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
ASUGoose wrote:If we continue to trajectory of success we are on currently, DG will have to look at a longer term extension to keep Satt around (possibly up to 8 years up to 2026). We certainly can't compete $$ wise with bigger schools but we could offer a longer term guaranteed contract than what they would typically offer. Let's not forget about the assistant coaches as well. Need to take care of them as well to set Satt up for continued success. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out after this season.
I doubt a super-long-term deal would be all that appealing TBH. What difference would locking him in for eight years make when he'd make the same amount in his first 2-3 years at a P5?

Anyway, if a guy like Satt took a job at a P5 and got fired after a few years, he'd not only be set for life financially, but he'd likely have no trouble landing a lucrative gig as a P5 OC or G5 HC. Heck we might even bring him back for another run here.

I do agree with you on staff raises, though.
The mention of a longer term deal is about all we can offer in comparison to the higher $$ a bigger can dish out. Not saying that would keep Satt here, just noting that is our only play.

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Unread post by The Rock » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:24 pm

moonshine wrote:Which coaches would Satt take with him?

Most of the big time programs want instant gratification within year 1 but most definitely finding success by year 2. IMO, Woody is a great DC and it takes time (at least 2-3 years) for him to implement his system. If he were to go with Satt, would these big time programs/fan bases have enough patience and give him the time needed to get his 3-4 scheme in place?

Which coaches does he take with him??
All of them.
The only one who probably wouldn't go would be dale jones. He has expressed in the past Boone is the only place he wants to live with his family.
I really don't see Satt replacing anyone. Especially woody, iron mike, Clark... or anyone else.
He has had great success with these guys both on the field and recruiting. The only disappointment in recruiting comes from guys getting P5 offers so if they are P5 coaches, they should do really well on the recruiting trail.
That's great for him/them, but bad for app state. As much faith as I have in DG to make a great replacement hire, it's difficult to replace an entire staff without a few years of growing pains. Especially if the existing players/recruits don't match up well with new coaches schemes. See app state 2014-2015, or ga south 2016.
I know it really is only a matter of time, as all the extensions and incentives we can give him don't even put him in the top 10% of the sunbelt earnings. No way we compete with an upper tier G5 and definatley not a P5. The only thing you can hope for is that Satt is not willing to sacrifice his integrity to win at all costs as is required in many P5 programs ala ole miss and UNC

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Unread post by T-Dog » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:53 pm

moonshine wrote:Which coaches would Satt take with him?

Most of the big time programs want instant gratification within year 1 but most definitely finding success by year 2. IMO, Woody is a great DC and it takes time (at least 2-3 years) for him to implement his system. If he were to go with Satt, would these big time programs/fan bases have enough patience and give him the time needed to get his 3-4 scheme in place?
I believe Satt would take Woody with him. Likely Ponce and Iron Mike as well.

Sloan and Jones would likely stay. They've got their roots deep in the soil here.

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:53 pm

The Rock wrote:
moonshine wrote:Which coaches would Satt take with him?

Most of the big time programs want instant gratification within year 1 but most definitely finding success by year 2. IMO, Woody is a great DC and it takes time (at least 2-3 years) for him to implement his system. If he were to go with Satt, would these big time programs/fan bases have enough patience and give him the time needed to get his 3-4 scheme in place?

Which coaches does he take with him??
All of them.
The only one who probably wouldn't go would be dale jones. He has expressed in the past Boone is the only place he wants to live with his family.
I really don't see Satt replacing anyone. Especially woody, iron mike, Clark... or anyone else.
He has had great success with these guys both on the field and recruiting. The only disappointment in recruiting comes from guys getting P5 offers so if they are P5 coaches, they should do really well on the recruiting trail.
That's great for him/them, but bad for app state. As much faith as I have in DG to make a great replacement hire, it's difficult to replace an entire staff without a few years of growing pains. Especially if the existing players/recruits don't match up well with new coaches schemes. See app state 2014-2015, or ga south 2016.
I know it really is only a matter of time, as all the extensions and incentives we can give him don't even put him in the top 10% of the sunbelt earnings. No way we compete with an upper tier G5 and definatley not a P5. The only thing you can hope for is that Satt is not willing to sacrifice his integrity to win at all costs as is required in many P5 programs ala ole miss and UNC
I doubt Satt would take the whole staff if he's hired at a P5. He'd likely want to hire some guys with P5 recruiting experience, esp. since that's the major hole in his own resume.

Might also depend on whether App promotes from within or hires externally.

If it's the latter, that coach would likely want to hire mostly new staff anyway.

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Unread post by The Rock » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:27 pm

EastHallApp wrote:
The Rock wrote:
moonshine wrote:Which coaches would Satt take with him?

Most of the big time programs want instant gratification within year 1 but most definitely finding success by year 2. IMO, Woody is a great DC and it takes time (at least 2-3 years) for him to implement his system. If he were to go with Satt, would these big time programs/fan bases have enough patience and give him the time needed to get his 3-4 scheme in place?
Possibly, but we have deep recruiting roots in sc, ga, fl, nc, does it really matter if it's G5 or P5 students we have historically been targeting? Plenty of quality talent comes from these areas, assuming he stays in the same general region.
Given the choice of following a proven HC to a P5 school as an assistant Coach or staying at app to become HC, how many current assistants do we think would stay at app? Would that person be the best candidate or would/should we look to hire a current successful hc?


Which coaches does he take with him??
All of them.
The only one who probably wouldn't go would be dale jones. He has expressed in the past Boone is the only place he wants to live with his family.
I really don't see Satt replacing anyone. Especially woody, iron mike, Clark... or anyone else.
He has had great success with these guys both on the field and recruiting. The only disappointment in recruiting comes from guys getting P5 offers so if they are P5 coaches, they should do really well on the recruiting trail.
That's great for him/them, but bad for app state. As much faith as I have in DG to make a great replacement hire, it's difficult to replace an entire staff without a few years of growing pains. Especially if the existing players/recruits don't match up well with new coaches schemes. See app state 2014-2015, or ga south 2016.
I know it really is only a matter of time, as all the extensions and incentives we can give him don't even put him in the top 10% of the sunbelt earnings. No way we compete with an upper tier G5 and definatley not a P5. The only thing you can hope for is that Satt is not willing to sacrifice his integrity to win at all costs as is required in many P5 programs ala ole miss and UNC
I doubt Satt would take the whole staff if he's hired at a P5. He'd likely want to hire some guys with P5 recruiting experience, esp. since that's the major hole in his own resume.

Might also depend on whether App promotes from within or hires externally.

If it's the latter, that coach would likely want to hire mostly new staff anyway.

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Unread post by ASUGoose » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:41 pm

The Rock wrote: I know it really is only a matter of time, as all the extensions and incentives we can give him don't even put him in the top 10% of the sunbelt earnings. No way we compete with an upper tier G5 and definatley not a P5. The only thing you can hope for is that Satt is not willing to sacrifice his integrity to win at all costs as is required in many P5 programs ala ole miss and UNC
If Satt maintains the same level of current success we are experiencing now, I think he will be making somewhere close to $1M/YR in total compensation on the back end of his new deal. I'm not intimately familiar with other Sun Belt head coaches total compensation amounts but I think that gets him somewhere near the top of the conference.

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Unread post by NewApp » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:48 pm

ASUGoose wrote:If we continue to trajectory of success we are on currently, DG will have to look at a longer term extension to keep Satt around (possibly up to 8 years up to 2026). We certainly can't compete $$ wise with bigger schools but we could offer a longer term guaranteed contract than what they would typically offer. Let's not forget about the assistant coaches as well. Need to take care of them as well to set Satt up for continued success. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out after this season.
A longer extension on Satterfield's contract certainly looks like a positive thing for us. The only caveat would seem to be that if he gets to be a super enough commodity, his suitor would simply buy out that extended contract. All we can do is make it more difficult for them.
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