SI ranks top 30 coaching candidates for 2017
Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:03 pm
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I doubt a super-long-term deal would be all that appealing TBH. What difference would locking him in for eight years make when he'd make the same amount in his first 2-3 years at a P5?ASUGoose wrote:If we continue to trajectory of success we are on currently, DG will have to look at a longer term extension to keep Satt around (possibly up to 8 years up to 2026). We certainly can't compete $$ wise with bigger schools but we could offer a longer term guaranteed contract than what they would typically offer. Let's not forget about the assistant coaches as well. Need to take care of them as well to set Satt up for continued success. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out after this season.
The mention of a longer term deal is about all we can offer in comparison to the higher $$ a bigger can dish out. Not saying that would keep Satt here, just noting that is our only play.EastHallApp wrote:I doubt a super-long-term deal would be all that appealing TBH. What difference would locking him in for eight years make when he'd make the same amount in his first 2-3 years at a P5?ASUGoose wrote:If we continue to trajectory of success we are on currently, DG will have to look at a longer term extension to keep Satt around (possibly up to 8 years up to 2026). We certainly can't compete $$ wise with bigger schools but we could offer a longer term guaranteed contract than what they would typically offer. Let's not forget about the assistant coaches as well. Need to take care of them as well to set Satt up for continued success. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out after this season.
Anyway, if a guy like Satt took a job at a P5 and got fired after a few years, he'd not only be set for life financially, but he'd likely have no trouble landing a lucrative gig as a P5 OC or G5 HC. Heck we might even bring him back for another run here.
I do agree with you on staff raises, though.
moonshine wrote:Which coaches would Satt take with him?
Most of the big time programs want instant gratification within year 1 but most definitely finding success by year 2. IMO, Woody is a great DC and it takes time (at least 2-3 years) for him to implement his system. If he were to go with Satt, would these big time programs/fan bases have enough patience and give him the time needed to get his 3-4 scheme in place?
I believe Satt would take Woody with him. Likely Ponce and Iron Mike as well.moonshine wrote:Which coaches would Satt take with him?
Most of the big time programs want instant gratification within year 1 but most definitely finding success by year 2. IMO, Woody is a great DC and it takes time (at least 2-3 years) for him to implement his system. If he were to go with Satt, would these big time programs/fan bases have enough patience and give him the time needed to get his 3-4 scheme in place?
I doubt Satt would take the whole staff if he's hired at a P5. He'd likely want to hire some guys with P5 recruiting experience, esp. since that's the major hole in his own resume.The Rock wrote:moonshine wrote:Which coaches would Satt take with him?
Most of the big time programs want instant gratification within year 1 but most definitely finding success by year 2. IMO, Woody is a great DC and it takes time (at least 2-3 years) for him to implement his system. If he were to go with Satt, would these big time programs/fan bases have enough patience and give him the time needed to get his 3-4 scheme in place?
Which coaches does he take with him??
All of them.
The only one who probably wouldn't go would be dale jones. He has expressed in the past Boone is the only place he wants to live with his family.
I really don't see Satt replacing anyone. Especially woody, iron mike, Clark... or anyone else.
He has had great success with these guys both on the field and recruiting. The only disappointment in recruiting comes from guys getting P5 offers so if they are P5 coaches, they should do really well on the recruiting trail.
That's great for him/them, but bad for app state. As much faith as I have in DG to make a great replacement hire, it's difficult to replace an entire staff without a few years of growing pains. Especially if the existing players/recruits don't match up well with new coaches schemes. See app state 2014-2015, or ga south 2016.
I know it really is only a matter of time, as all the extensions and incentives we can give him don't even put him in the top 10% of the sunbelt earnings. No way we compete with an upper tier G5 and definatley not a P5. The only thing you can hope for is that Satt is not willing to sacrifice his integrity to win at all costs as is required in many P5 programs ala ole miss and UNC
EastHallApp wrote:I doubt Satt would take the whole staff if he's hired at a P5. He'd likely want to hire some guys with P5 recruiting experience, esp. since that's the major hole in his own resume.The Rock wrote:Possibly, but we have deep recruiting roots in sc, ga, fl, nc, does it really matter if it's G5 or P5 students we have historically been targeting? Plenty of quality talent comes from these areas, assuming he stays in the same general region.moonshine wrote:Which coaches would Satt take with him?
Most of the big time programs want instant gratification within year 1 but most definitely finding success by year 2. IMO, Woody is a great DC and it takes time (at least 2-3 years) for him to implement his system. If he were to go with Satt, would these big time programs/fan bases have enough patience and give him the time needed to get his 3-4 scheme in place?
Given the choice of following a proven HC to a P5 school as an assistant Coach or staying at app to become HC, how many current assistants do we think would stay at app? Would that person be the best candidate or would/should we look to hire a current successful hc?
Which coaches does he take with him??
All of them.
The only one who probably wouldn't go would be dale jones. He has expressed in the past Boone is the only place he wants to live with his family.
I really don't see Satt replacing anyone. Especially woody, iron mike, Clark... or anyone else.
He has had great success with these guys both on the field and recruiting. The only disappointment in recruiting comes from guys getting P5 offers so if they are P5 coaches, they should do really well on the recruiting trail.
That's great for him/them, but bad for app state. As much faith as I have in DG to make a great replacement hire, it's difficult to replace an entire staff without a few years of growing pains. Especially if the existing players/recruits don't match up well with new coaches schemes. See app state 2014-2015, or ga south 2016.
I know it really is only a matter of time, as all the extensions and incentives we can give him don't even put him in the top 10% of the sunbelt earnings. No way we compete with an upper tier G5 and definatley not a P5. The only thing you can hope for is that Satt is not willing to sacrifice his integrity to win at all costs as is required in many P5 programs ala ole miss and UNC
Might also depend on whether App promotes from within or hires externally.
If it's the latter, that coach would likely want to hire mostly new staff anyway.
If Satt maintains the same level of current success we are experiencing now, I think he will be making somewhere close to $1M/YR in total compensation on the back end of his new deal. I'm not intimately familiar with other Sun Belt head coaches total compensation amounts but I think that gets him somewhere near the top of the conference.The Rock wrote: I know it really is only a matter of time, as all the extensions and incentives we can give him don't even put him in the top 10% of the sunbelt earnings. No way we compete with an upper tier G5 and definatley not a P5. The only thing you can hope for is that Satt is not willing to sacrifice his integrity to win at all costs as is required in many P5 programs ala ole miss and UNC
A longer extension on Satterfield's contract certainly looks like a positive thing for us. The only caveat would seem to be that if he gets to be a super enough commodity, his suitor would simply buy out that extended contract. All we can do is make it more difficult for them.ASUGoose wrote:If we continue to trajectory of success we are on currently, DG will have to look at a longer term extension to keep Satt around (possibly up to 8 years up to 2026). We certainly can't compete $$ wise with bigger schools but we could offer a longer term guaranteed contract than what they would typically offer. Let's not forget about the assistant coaches as well. Need to take care of them as well to set Satt up for continued success. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out after this season.