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The penalty on the last play was for running onto the field after the block. Clearly, it was after the play.Appstate10 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:19 amI heard these were ACC officials as that was part of the deal we made. I saw a few times where the ball was snapped before their line was set, holdings that weren't called that resulted in huge holes, etc. I thought It was pretty bad. Now, we left points on the table we shouldn't have, but, the officiating was pretty terrible
I've also heard a discussion about the last penalty and whether the ref said "during the play" or "after the play".
They were SBC offcials. The same crew that called our games at Akron and Georgia Southern last season.Appstate10 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:19 amI heard these were ACC officials as that was part of the deal we made. I saw a few times where the ball was snapped before their line was set, holdings that weren't called that resulted in huge holes, etc. I thought It was pretty bad. Now, we left points on the table we shouldn't have, but, the officiating was pretty terrible
I've also heard a discussion about the last penalty and whether the ref said "during the play" or "after the play".
Excellent point. Not sure about the last penalty but more than once the officials hustled to place the football so Wake could get the quick snap almost as if they were part of the Deacs offense. A couple of times an official stood behind our center delaying our ability to snap and giving Wake's defense an extra few seconds to read us and get set. Not a great crew regardless of conference affiliation.Appstate10 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:19 amI heard these were ACC officials as that was part of the deal we made. I saw a few times where the ball was snapped before their line was set, holdings that weren't called that resulted in huge holes, etc. I thought It was pretty bad. Now, we left points on the table we shouldn't have, but, the officiating was pretty terrible
I've also heard a discussion about the last penalty and whether the ref said "during the play" or "after the play".
BUT, the Ref clearly said, over the stadium PA system, "during the play" when he made the initial call at which time he turned off the mic. I am 100% sure of this, someone prove me wrong? He may have corrected himself in a separate call a few seconds after that (I don't know but don't think he did) but he did not correct it during that 1st call. That is why there was so much confusion and some applause when he called the penalty.appst89 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:27 amThe penalty on the last play was for running onto the field after the block. Clearly, it was after the play.Appstate10 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:19 amI heard these were ACC officials as that was part of the deal we made. I saw a few times where the ball was snapped before their line was set, holdings that weren't called that resulted in huge holes, etc. I thought It was pretty bad. Now, we left points on the table we shouldn't have, but, the officiating was pretty terrible
I've also heard a discussion about the last penalty and whether the ref said "during the play" or "after the play".
Yes, I don't disagree. I've just heard that some thought they heard the official say "during the play" which is obviously incorrect wording. If that's the case, it just adds to the fact that they weren't good.appst89 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:27 amThe penalty on the last play was for running onto the field after the block. Clearly, it was after the play.Appstate10 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:19 amI heard these were ACC officials as that was part of the deal we made. I saw a few times where the ball was snapped before their line was set, holdings that weren't called that resulted in huge holes, etc. I thought It was pretty bad. Now, we left points on the table we shouldn't have, but, the officiating was pretty terrible
I've also heard a discussion about the last penalty and whether the ref said "during the play" or "after the play".
That was SBC's Kevin Stein and crew Saturday. They have officiated many of our games since joining the Sun Belt.Appstate10 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:19 amI heard these were ACC officials as that was part of the deal we made. I saw a few times where the ball was snapped before their line was set, holdings that weren't called that resulted in huge holes, etc. I thought It was pretty bad. Now, we left points on the table we shouldn't have, but, the officiating was pretty terrible
I've also heard a discussion about the last penalty and whether the ref said "during the play" or "after the play".
The extra point was blocked.ashugh wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:10 amClearly, WE lost the game. Wake did not win it. The extra point wasn’t blocked, it was kicked into the ass of our O line.
But, anyway, the officiating was terrible from on standpoint, IMO. They could have called holding on Wake’s O line on virtually every play. They could handle our speed and they were holding, no just on one side, but across the line. It was very frustrating to watch.
But, our sloppy, undisclpined play lost the game, in spite of the officiating. I wish it had been an ACC crew.
Guess it's good to know nothing much has changed from last year then...AppfaninCAALand wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:02 amThat was SBC's Kevin Stein and crew Saturday. They have officiated many of our games since joining the Sun Belt.Appstate10 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:19 amI heard these were ACC officials as that was part of the deal we made. I saw a few times where the ball was snapped before their line was set, holdings that weren't called that resulted in huge holes, etc. I thought It was pretty bad. Now, we left points on the table we shouldn't have, but, the officiating was pretty terrible
I've also heard a discussion about the last penalty and whether the ref said "during the play" or "after the play".
It could have been during the play, but after the block. At that point, possession would have changed, kinda like on a punt.APPRIDE wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:38 amBUT, the Ref clearly said, over the stadium PA system, "during the play" when he made the initial call at which time he turned off the mic. I am 100% sure of this, someone prove me wrong? He may have corrected himself in a separate call a few seconds after that (I don't know but don't think he did) but he did not correct it during that 1st call. That is why there was so much confusion and some applause when he called the penalty.appst89 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:27 amThe penalty on the last play was for running onto the field after the block. Clearly, it was after the play.Appstate10 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:19 amI heard these were ACC officials as that was part of the deal we made. I saw a few times where the ball was snapped before their line was set, holdings that weren't called that resulted in huge holes, etc. I thought It was pretty bad. Now, we left points on the table we shouldn't have, but, the officiating was pretty terrible
I've also heard a discussion about the last penalty and whether the ref said "during the play" or "after the play".
When they stand over the ball at the LOS it's because the offense has made substitutions and the defense has to be allowed a chance to do the same. If the offense didn't make substitutions then the refs should be hustling to place the football.ASU3432Mi wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:37 amExcellent point. Not sure about the last penalty but more than once the officials hustled to place the football so Wake could get the quick snap almost as if they were part of the Deacs offense. A couple of times an official stood behind our center delaying our ability to snap and giving Wake's defense an extra few seconds to read us and get set. Not a great crew regardless of conference affiliation.Appstate10 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:19 amI heard these were ACC officials as that was part of the deal we made. I saw a few times where the ball was snapped before their line was set, holdings that weren't called that resulted in huge holes, etc. I thought It was pretty bad. Now, we left points on the table we shouldn't have, but, the officiating was pretty terrible
I've also heard a discussion about the last penalty and whether the ref said "during the play" or "after the play".