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BOONE, N.C. (AP)
Jerry Moore, who led Appalachian State to an unforgettable upset of Michigan and won three straight FCS national championships, won't return to the Mountaineers next season, athletic director Charlie Cobb said Sunday.


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Cobb said he and Moore, the winningest coach in school and Southern Conference history, agreed following last season that that this year would be his last, but Moore didn't want to make the decision public during the season because he wanted to keep the attention on the field.

''During his 24 years of loyal service to Appalachian State University, Coach Moore's contribution to the institution is far greater than his success on the field,'' Chancellor Kenneth Peacock said. ''He touched the lives of many young people and made life better for them. He will be missed but never forgotten at Appalachian State.''

Appalachian State's season ended Saturday with a 38-37 overtime loss to Illinois State in the second round of the playoffs. The Mountaineers finished 8-4, won their seventh SoCon title in eight years and made the playoffs for the eighth straight year.

Moore was 215-87 in 24 seasons with the Mountaineers and won three straight national titles from 2005-07. He's perhaps most famous for shocking the then-fifth-ranked Wolverines in the 2007 opener — the first win for an FCS school against an AP Top 25 team.

He was 242-135-2 in 31 seasons as a college head coach, ranking him 15th on the Division I all-time list, and won 10 SoCon championships with 18 postseason

That's on Fox Sports but it is just the AP wire report. The exact same story is on ESPN.

Unfortunately, despite being the "darlings of ESPN" the retirement of Coach Moore did not rate more than standard wire story. The only way I found the story on ESPN was by doing a search on their website.

The lack of a story about a very high profile coach (for FCS) for a very high profile team (for FCS) is a stinging indictment of FCS treatment vs. FBS treatment. I think almost any coach leaving a FBS team, regardless of how many years, championships, or circumstances would have generated a lot more press interest. It's unfortunate and not fair, but true.

newtoasu wrote:That's on Fox Sports but it is just the AP wire report. The exact same story is on ESPN.

Unfortunately, despite being the "darlings of ESPN" the retirement of Coach Moore did not rate more than standard wire story. The only way I found the story on ESPN was by doing a search on their website.

The lack of a story about a very high profile coach (for FCS) for a very high profile team (for FCS) is a stinging indictment of FCS treatment vs. FBS treatment. I think almost any coach leaving a FBS team, regardless of how many years, championships, or circumstances would have generated a lot more press interest. It's unfortunate and not fair, but true.

I don't know. Since you said regardless of how many years, etc, if the coach at Louisiana-Lafayette had left, I don't think we would have heard about except in a wire report unless he had achieved what Moore achieved. In fact, I don't recall ever reading about a coach being hired or fired from the lower tier of the Sun Belt., not even a memorable wire report.
I do think it deserved more coverage.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootbal ... /20838606/

No mention of Coach Moore's retirement. The point is well taken that even when a legendary coach at the FCS level "retires" it gets no mention.

JCline0429 wrote:I don't know. Since you said regardless of how many years, etc, if the coach at Louisiana-Lafayette had left, I don't think we would have heard about except in a wire report unless he had achieved what Moore achieved. In fact, I don't recall ever reading about a coach being hired or fired from the lower tier of the Sun Belt., not even a memorable wire report.
I do think it deserved more coverage.

5 seconds of searching on ESPN.com (SI.com also had a story), shows the wire report for Bill Curry leaving Georgia State and then GSU subsequently hiring his replacement.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... bill-curry

Just because you don't recall something doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just because you choose to not pay attention to the Sun Belt or CUSA doesn't mean other people don't. They obviously do pay attention, because those schools have TV contracts to air their games, while the SoCon is stuck with internet only.

BeauFoster wrote:

JCline0429 wrote:I don't know. Since you said regardless of how many years, etc, if the coach at Louisiana-Lafayette had left, I don't think we would have heard about except in a wire report unless he had achieved what Moore achieved. In fact, I don't recall ever reading about a coach being hired or fired from the lower tier of the Sun Belt., not even a memorable wire report.
I do think it deserved more coverage.

5 seconds of searching on ESPN.com (SI.com also had a story), shows the wire report for Bill Curry leaving Georgia State and then GSU subsequently hiring his replacement.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... bill-curry

Just because you don't recall something doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just because you choose to not pay attention to the Sun Belt or CUSA doesn't mean other people don't. They obviously do pay attention, because those schools have TV contracts to air their games, while the SoCon is stuck with internet only.

Are you saying that you do recall national coverage of the hirings and firings of the coaches in the lower tier of the Sun Belt?
I think if the media had seen reason to think Jerry was forced out, there would have been much more coverage. Thankfully they didn't.
I would readily concede that had Moore compiled the W-L record, 10 conference championships, etc in FBS that it would have received much more widespread coverage. But would an Appalachian program have done that?
Armanti playing for our FCS progrm certainly received a lot of national coverage and Kevin Richardson appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated despite playing FCS ball. Would the win over Michigan have prompted that had we been FBS? Maybe so, maybe not.

JCline0429 wrote:

BeauFoster wrote:

JCline0429 wrote:I don't know. Since you said regardless of how many years, etc, if the coach at Louisiana-Lafayette had left, I don't think we would have heard about except in a wire report unless he had achieved what Moore achieved. In fact, I don't recall ever reading about a coach being hired or fired from the lower tier of the Sun Belt., not even a memorable wire report.
I do think it deserved more coverage.

5 seconds of searching on ESPN.com (SI.com also had a story), shows the wire report for Bill Curry leaving Georgia State and then GSU subsequently hiring his replacement.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... bill-curry

Just because you don't recall something doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just because you choose to not pay attention to the Sun Belt or CUSA doesn't mean other people don't. They obviously do pay attention, because those schools have TV contracts to air their games, while the SoCon is stuck with internet only.

Are you saying that you do recall national coverage of the hirings and firings of the coaches in the lower tier of the Sun Belt?
I think if the media had seen reason to think Jerry was forced out, there would have been much more coverage. Thankfully they didn't.
I would readily concede that had Moore compiled the W-L record, 10 conference championships, etc in FBS that it would have received much more widespread coverage. But would an Appalachian program have done that?
Armanti playing for our FCS progrm certainly received a lot of national coverage and Kevin Richardson appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated despite playing FCS ball. Would the win over Michigan have prompted that had we been FBS? Maybe soso, maybe not.

Factcheck. Kevin Richardson was never on the Cover of SI. Dexter Jackson was however.

Patch, don't be all blowing his theories out of the water with facts..... that's just rude.

ASUPATCH wrote:

JCline0429 wrote:

BeauFoster wrote:

JCline0429 wrote:I don't know. Since you said regardless of how many years, etc, if the coach at Louisiana-Lafayette had left, I don't think we would have heard about except in a wire report unless he had achieved what Moore achieved. In fact, I don't recall ever reading about a coach being hired or fired from the lower tier of the Sun Belt., not even a memorable wire report.
I do think it deserved more coverage.

5 seconds of searching on ESPN.com (SI.com also had a story), shows the wire report for Bill Curry leaving Georgia State and then GSU subsequently hiring his replacement.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sto ... bill-curry

Just because you don't recall something doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just because you choose to not pay attention to the Sun Belt or CUSA doesn't mean other people don't. They obviously do pay attention, because those schools have TV contracts to air their games, while the SoCon is stuck with internet only.

Are you saying that you do recall national coverage of the hirings and firings of the coaches in the lower tier of the Sun Belt?
I think if the media had seen reason to think Jerry was forced out, there would have been much more coverage. Thankfully they didn't.
I would readily concede that had Moore compiled the W-L record, 10 conference championships, etc in FBS that it would have received much more widespread coverage. But would an Appalachian program have done that?
Armanti playing for our FCS progrm certainly received a lot of national coverage and Kevin Richardson appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated despite playing FCS ball. Would the win over Michigan have prompted that had we been FBS? Maybe soso, maybe not.

Factcheck. Kevin Richardson was never on the Cover of SI. Dexter Jackson was however.

Yep!