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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by McLeansvilleAppFan » Wed May 16, 2018 11:26 am

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The Devil Went Down to Georgia was pretty cool.
I did enjoy that but the star of the show was not even an App student, though she may be an App in the near future.

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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by Rekdiver » Wed May 16, 2018 11:53 am

tromboneman wrote:
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Rekdiver wrote:
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I am a huge fan of high stepping Big 10 bands. For the pregame entrance to their halftime shows. WCU is a show band and very good but I'd say hire the Band Director of SC State or A&T.
NO!!!
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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by QueencityApp » Wed May 16, 2018 12:05 pm

Rekdiver wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 11:53 am
tromboneman wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 11:16 am
Rekdiver wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 10:58 am
I am a huge fan of high stepping Big 10 bands. For the pregame entrance to their halftime shows. WCU is a show band and very good but I'd say hire the Band Director of SC State or A&T.
NO!!!
Why?
I'm with you Rek on the Big10 style of marching band. Went to a skull session at Ohio State years ago and that experience will give you goosebumps. It's personal preference for me but I do enjoy watching that style of band perform/march. Hopefully the new person that comes in brings the noise with em too. I can guarantee you if Troy's band was sitting in the endzone we wouldn't have complaints about not being able to hear the band! Loud and Proud!



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by NO.2 » Wed May 16, 2018 12:14 pm

Bring in someone from a HBCU. I'd love to see a band out there jamming, moving around and having fun rather than a stoic march of perfection. It's a football game, not a stuffy recital.



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by Rekdiver » Wed May 16, 2018 3:11 pm

Assuming the School of music hires the band director BUT does the AD get any input?



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by BTK2000 » Wed May 16, 2018 4:09 pm

I marched for 3 years with the bod and spent one season as a section leader and another as a captain as well as 4 years in a serious competition band in HS. This isn’t an insult but when the black and gold shades are removed I feel as though I can speak from experience. Yea we are nowhere near the top half of collegiate bands in either show quality or showmanship. I hate westerns park and bark style of show but we didn’t get invited back to the BOA regionals for a reason while western is constantly invited. There is a reason we have never to my knowledge even been considered for the Sudler award. The band here has actually never really been amazing IMO. I mean it was fun to be in but there is only so much you can do with 3 hours of practice a week, a 1 week band camp and 300+ moving parts. I know I was disappointed with most of the shows I performed in with Led Zeppelin bing the only stand out in my mind.

You want the quality to go up, you have to do what OSU and most every good coligate band does. You have to Shrink the size and hold tryouts. OSU has a performing band of less than 200 members for a reason.



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by BTK2000 » Wed May 16, 2018 4:17 pm

Rekdiver wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 3:11 pm
Assuming the School of music hires the band director BUT does the AD get any input?
No, the BOD director is the associate director of bands for the HSOM and it is an academic post that has nothing to do with athletics. The post requires a Doctorate and the person is part of all the wind ensembles that the music school houses amd they are responsible for teaching classes in the music education department.

The cheerleading coach works for athletics so yes for something like that.



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by asualum78 » Wed May 16, 2018 4:20 pm

Anyone ever seen Jacksonville States Marching Southerners? App list my son to JSU due to their band and they are awesome! I know we cant pry Ken Bodiford away but a few of the assistants had their homes destroyed by the tornado and just might be persuaded! They also have a great relationship with the football team. Look them up on you tube...amazing!!!



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by BTK2000 » Wed May 16, 2018 4:28 pm

asualum78 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:20 pm
Anyone ever seen Jacksonville States Marching Southerners? App list my son to JSU due to their band and they are awesome! I know we cant pry Ken Bodiford away but a few of the assistants had their homes destroyed by the tornado and just might be persuaded! They also have a great relationship with the football team. Look them up on you tube...amazing!!!
Music school faculty openings at app are usually pretty competitive from my understanding. The issue is that the post is the associate director of bands not the top post. Depending on how a faculty member from another is going through their career, most arnt going to make a latteral move for anything less than a substantial pay increase. There isn’t a chance for advancement here and this would most likely be a move up for someone applying, not a move sideways.



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by NoLongerLurking » Wed May 16, 2018 4:33 pm

In developing the future band and its leadership, let me suggest a few rules.

1. Intonation isn't as important as entertaining tens of thousands of drunk people.

2. We need more Mellophones.

3. Don't be afraid to learn to march in step.



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by BTK2000 » Wed May 16, 2018 4:43 pm

NoLongerLurking wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:33 pm
In developing the future band and its leadership, let me suggest a few rules.

1. Intonation isn't as important as entertaining tens of thousands of drunk people.

2. We need more Mellophones.

3. Don't be afraid to learn to march in step.
A fellow mello by chance? But I’ll say you’re extremely wrong on intonation. The reason a drum corps sounds a big and as good as they do with half the people is both intonation and quality of sound. Tone quality is what takes a good band to a great band. It’s what allows as sound to project and feel big not just honking away on an instrument. That’s why corps practice running and playing with a pure tone, it’s everything.



That video is the literal best marching band in the world in 07 paraticing running and playing at the same time for the sole reason of learning to maintain intonation and tone quality in their show



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by NoLongerLurking » Wed May 16, 2018 4:58 pm

BTK2000 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:43 pm
NoLongerLurking wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:33 pm
In developing the future band and its leadership, let me suggest a few rules.

1. Intonation isn't as important as entertaining tens of thousands of drunk people.

2. We need more Mellophones.

3. Don't be afraid to learn to march in step.
A fellow mello by chance? But I’ll say you’re extremely wrong on intonation. The reason a drum corps sounds a big and as good as they do with half the people is both intonation and quality of sound. Tone quality is what takes a good band to a great band. It’s what allows as sound to project and feel big not just honking away on an instrument. That’s why corps practice running and playing with a pure tone, it’s everything.



That video is the literal best marching band in the world in 07 paraticing running and playing at the same time for the sole reason of learning to maintain intonation and tone quality in their show
Yep I was a French Hornist and Mellophonist(er?). It really helped me to stay STD-free in high school. I think you didn't catch my sarcastic point in numero uno. In short, drunk people are the worst when it comes to appreciating music. Some of these people are "woke" enough to realize music sounds best in earbuds and must be computer-generated beats accompanied by electronically voice-corrected vocals.



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by Rekdiver » Wed May 16, 2018 5:42 pm

BTK2000 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:09 pm
I marched for 3 years with the bod and spent one season as a section leader and another as a captain as well as 4 years in a serious competition band in HS. This isn’t an insult but when the black and gold shades are removed I feel as though I can speak from experience. Yea we are nowhere near the top half of collegiate bands in either show quality or showmanship. I hate westerns park and bark style of show but we didn’t get invited back to the BOA regionals for a reason while western is constantly invited. There is a reason we have never to my knowledge even been considered for the Sudler award. The band here has actually never really been amazing IMO. I mean it was fun to be in but there is only so much you can do with 3 hours of practice a week, a 1 week band camp and 300+ moving parts. I know I was disappointed with most of the shows I performed in with Led Zeppelin bing the only stand out in my mind.

You want the quality to go up, you have to do what OSU and most every good coligate band does. You have to Shrink the size and hold tryouts. OSU has a performing band of less than 200 members for a reason.
For a couple of years( ever since I got back from the Michigan game) I’ve been critical of the BOD’s direction and leadership. I’ve been “shouted down” on this board albeit politely. The BOD needs to step it up, change the status quo and become a top tier band. 3 hours a week practice ain’t enough.



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by TheMoody1 » Wed May 16, 2018 6:25 pm

They are already North Carolina's Band of Distinction. Nothing will make some of you guys happy. :D



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by HkyMtneer » Wed May 16, 2018 6:57 pm

BTK2000 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:43 pm
NoLongerLurking wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:33 pm
In developing the future band and its leadership, let me suggest a few rules.

1. Intonation isn't as important as entertaining tens of thousands of drunk people.

2. We need more Mellophones.

3. Don't be afraid to learn to march in step.
A fellow mello by chance? But I’ll say you’re extremely wrong on intonation. The reason a drum corps sounds a big and as good as they do with half the people is both intonation and quality of sound. Tone quality is what takes a good band to a great band. It’s what allows as sound to project and feel big not just honking away on an instrument. That’s why corps practice running and playing with a pure tone, it’s everything.



That video is the literal best marching band in the world in 07 paraticing running and playing at the same time for the sole reason of learning to maintain intonation and tone quality in their show
Am I the only one who watched that video and wondered if being a member of that band isn't about the best workout ever? I mean, not much more than an ounce of fat on any of those members. Whatever practice regimen they're doing is working...in more than one regard!



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by S.Lewis15 » Wed May 16, 2018 7:46 pm

I'm of the opinion, even as a former woodwind player, that woodwinds don't really have a place in the marching band. I know that would mean completely restructuring the band, but brass only is the way to go.



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by AppinVA » Wed May 16, 2018 8:14 pm

S.Lewis15 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 7:46 pm
I'm of the opinion, even as a former woodwind player, that woodwinds don't really have a place in the marching band. I know that would mean completely restructuring the band, but brass only is the way to go.
Agreed. I was in the BOD for two years (trumpet). Our band has always been woodwind heavy. Especially piccolos. Grates my nerves.


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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by HighlandsApp » Wed May 16, 2018 8:16 pm

S.Lewis15 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 7:46 pm
I'm of the opinion, even as a former woodwind player, that woodwinds don't really have a place in the marching band. I know that would mean completely restructuring the band, but brass only is the way to go.
Toledo’s band was loud



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by asualum78 » Wed May 16, 2018 8:33 pm

My son marched Spirit...lost at least 40 lbs every summer. Came home and challenged the football players to a fitness contest... he won every time! Phantom is more intense! Love them!



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Re: App Band Director Bails

Unread post by wncapp78 » Wed May 16, 2018 8:54 pm

I noted this on a different thread. It’s perfectly OK for all of us to have different opinions about what makes our marching band great. But it’s cool that on this board we care! we all agree we want BOD to be the best we can have. So let the dean, Dr Douthit of the music school know your thoughts on what you think are the qualities of the next Director, and schools that have bands we admire.
mailto:douthitjr1@appstate.edu



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