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Tie Breaker Question

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Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by goapps » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:44 pm

Suppose Ga Southern loses to Troy and goes 7-1. Troy goes 7-1 because they lose to us. We also finish 7-1. How do they break the three way tie in the east?

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by shortfatoldapp » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:24 pm

I have never read a bigger mess of gobblygook in my entire life!

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by HeffnerIV » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:42 pm

The way I read it is that in this scenario, beat troy, win out, hope troy beats GSU, and keep our computer ranking high.

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by T-Dog » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:45 pm

Good grief.
Multiple Teams
If three or more teams are tied atop a division at the end of the season, the following criteria are used, until one team remains and declared the representative of the Football Championship Game.

The team with the highest winning percentage in games played among the tied teams shall be declared the Division Champion;
1) If still tied, highest winning percentage of tied teams within the division;
2) If still tied, head-to-head competition against the team within the division with the next best overall Conference winning percentage (4 and 5) breaking ties using the Conference tiebreaking procedures proceeding through the division until one team prevails;
3) If still tied, combined highest winning percentage against all common non-divisional Conference opponents;
4) If still tied, if one team was ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings and wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season, it will be declared the Division Champion. If in that same scenario, the team that was the highest ranked team in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings loses in the final weekend of the Conference regular season, a composite average of selected computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Billingsley, Colley and Wolfe) will be used to determine the Division Champion;
5) If there are multiple teams ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings, the highest-ranked team that wins in the final weekend of the Conference regular season will be declared the Division Champion;
6) If none of the ranked teams win on the final weekend of the Conference regular season, a composite average of selected computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Billingsley, Colley and Wolfe) that include all games on the final weekend of the Conference regular season, will be used to determine the Division Champion;
7) If no teams are ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee rankings going into the final weekend of the Conference regular season, a composite average of selected; computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Billingsley, Colley and Wolfe) that include all games on the final weekend of the Conference regular season, will be used to determine the Division Champion;
8) If still tied, the team with the highest overall (Conference and non-Conference winning percentage against FBS teams shall be the Division Champion;
9) If still tied, the Division Champion will be determined by lot, conducted by the Commissioner.

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by postalapp90 » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:51 pm

Anyone know how only playing 11 games affects a computer ranking

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by bird9954 » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:07 pm

Need Southern needs to lose twice (don't see Troy even beating them). Tiebreaker won't get to computer ranking otherwise. First tiebreak is overall win percentage. Southern takes it assuming:
GAS 10-2 (0.833)
App 9-2 (0.818)
Troy 9-3 (0.750)

Not having the Southern Miss game win could be the decider if Troy would happen to beat Southern and we beat Troy.......

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by AppOrange » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:20 pm

Good grief uncc beat so miss
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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by firemoose » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:51 pm

There's a reason I only posted the link and didn't comment. I wanted everyone to have to read through that thing just like I did. :roll:

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by Stonewall » Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:07 pm

Southern loses next week .

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by postalapp90 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:34 am

bird9954 wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:07 pm
Need Southern needs to lose twice (don't see Troy even beating them). Tiebreaker won't get to computer ranking otherwise. First tiebreak is overall win percentage. Southern takes it assuming:
GAS 10-2 (0.833)
App 9-2 (0.818)
Troy 9-3 (0.750)

Not having the Southern Miss game win could be the decider if Troy would happen to beat Southern and we beat Troy.......
I think the first part means the overall win percentage regarding the head to head vs the tied teams. We all would be 1-1 against each other.

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by Yosef84 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:15 am

The tie breaker in a three-way tie with us and Troy would be the win against the division competitor with the next highest percentage. In this scenario that would be Coastal at this point. Troy has already beaten Coastal but both GS and App still play. This really does get convoluted if we all three finish 7-1 and it looks to me like it would finish with a determination by the commissioner by lot.
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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by Yosef84 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 7:16 am

My first reaction is that the 11 game schedule isn't an issue. I think conference record would be what they are living at but if they actually use un-adjusted percentages as a tie breaker it could have an influence. I would think this would be counter to what the league would want (public policy) but you never know I guess.

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by Yosef84 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:09 am

I guess we just have to hope GS drops 2...ULM and Coastal are playing pretty well and GSU seems to have GS number but I don't think they have the horses. Never know.

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by Rick83 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:26 am

Not sure I completely understand all of the tie-breakers but I would think we'd have grounds for filing a protest and asking for an exception if the overall winning percentage test works against us since the Southern Miss game was canceled despite our efforts to play at a neutral site.

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by Yosef84 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:31 am

Rick, that's my thinking as well. The conference wouldn't want to penalize a program for making a safety driven decision (counter to public policy) and especially given that we attempted to make accommodation but were denied by USM.

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by Rick83 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:34 am

Yosef84 wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:31 am
Rick, that's my thinking as well. The conference wouldn't want to penalize a program for making a safety driven decision (counter to public policy) and especially given that we attempted to make accommodation but were denied by USM.
If they don't make an exception for that they're basically enticing teams to take the risk and play the games in those dangerous situations. A bad precedent to set. They should make that exception and then modify the tie breaker rules going forward to account for those situations.

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by Yosef84 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:43 am

Rick83 wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:34 am
Yosef84 wrote:
Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:31 am
Rick, that's my thinking as well. The conference wouldn't want to penalize a program for making a safety driven decision (counter to public policy) and especially given that we attempted to make accommodation but were denied by USM.
If they don't make an exception for that they're basically enticing teams to take the risk and play the games in those dangerous situations. A bad precedent to set. They should make that exception and then modify the tie breaker rules going forward to account for those situations.
Exactly. That is my point as well.

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Re: Tie Breaker Question

Unread post by Black Saturday » Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:28 am

The only thing we can do is win and hope the others lose and hope the refs from Thursday night don't have the pleasure of officiating for the Gunroots again.
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