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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by App91 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:10 pm

diehardapp18 wrote:
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AppSt91 wrote:
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Not saying Satterfield will or will not leave, but Brohm is already at a P5 making P5 money, so this would be a lateral move. Satterfield is not making a lateral move if he goes to a P5..
True,but if you were the next in line for the offer and the guy in front of you didn't want it, would that not make you think twice about it yourself? I get your point about it being a P5 but you are giving up job security for a potential short term gig. The avg HC in D1 is 3.8 years. I don't care how much money you are making, that is a rough life. Satt knows this, so he owes it to himself to ask is it worth leaving your dream job for it.
If he's already in his dream job, why did he hire the biggest shark in the water as an agent?
On the flip side, if he hired the biggest shark in the water, why would he settle for a dumpster fire like Louisville?
This is an argument I don’t buy lol. What makes Louisville a dumpster fire other than the fact that they were bad last year?
See also--Pitino, Rick

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by diehardapp18 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:14 pm

App91 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:10 pm
diehardapp18 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:07 pm
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AppSt91 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:22 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
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True,but if you were the next in line for the offer and the guy in front of you didn't want it, would that not make you think twice about it yourself? I get your point about it being a P5 but you are giving up job security for a potential short term gig. The avg HC in D1 is 3.8 years. I don't care how much money you are making, that is a rough life. Satt knows this, so he owes it to himself to ask is it worth leaving your dream job for it.
If he's already in his dream job, why did he hire the biggest shark in the water as an agent?
On the flip side, if he hired the biggest shark in the water, why would he settle for a dumpster fire like Louisville?
This is an argument I don’t buy lol. What makes Louisville a dumpster fire other than the fact that they were bad last year?
See also--Pitino, Rick
Okay their old basketball coach was a sleezeball. That doesn’t answer the question. What makes the job so bad other than having to play Clemson every year?

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by ah59396 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:18 pm

diehardapp18 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:07 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:40 pm
AppSt91 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:22 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:14 pm
newtoasu wrote:
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Not saying Satterfield will or will not leave, but Brohm is already at a P5 making P5 money, so this would be a lateral move. Satterfield is not making a lateral move if he goes to a P5..
True,but if you were the next in line for the offer and the guy in front of you didn't want it, would that not make you think twice about it yourself? I get your point about it being a P5 but you are giving up job security for a potential short term gig. The avg HC in D1 is 3.8 years. I don't care how much money you are making, that is a rough life. Satt knows this, so he owes it to himself to ask is it worth leaving your dream job for it.
If he's already in his dream job, why did he hire the biggest shark in the water as an agent?
On the flip side, if he hired the biggest shark in the water, why would he settle for a dumpster fire like Louisville?
This is an argument I don’t buy lol. What makes Louisville a dumpster fire other than the fact that they were bad last year?
I don’t get this mentality either. Louisville made a bad hire and needs to be made a winner again, but it’s got a great foundation. Recent heisman trophy winner, won the Sugar Bowl a couple years ago. Only negative is being in the same division as Clemson.
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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by ah59396 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:19 pm

diehardapp18 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:07 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:40 pm
AppSt91 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:22 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:14 pm
newtoasu wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:02 pm
Not saying Satterfield will or will not leave, but Brohm is already at a P5 making P5 money, so this would be a lateral move. Satterfield is not making a lateral move if he goes to a P5..
True,but if you were the next in line for the offer and the guy in front of you didn't want it, would that not make you think twice about it yourself? I get your point about it being a P5 but you are giving up job security for a potential short term gig. The avg HC in D1 is 3.8 years. I don't care how much money you are making, that is a rough life. Satt knows this, so he owes it to himself to ask is it worth leaving your dream job for it.
If he's already in his dream job, why did he hire the biggest shark in the water as an agent?
On the flip side, if he hired the biggest shark in the water, why would he settle for a dumpster fire like Louisville?
This is an argument I don’t buy lol. What makes Louisville a dumpster fire other than the fact that they were bad last year?
I don’t get this mentality either. Louisville made a bad hire and needs to be made a winner again, but it’s got a great foundation. Recent heisman trophy winner, won the Sugar Bowl a couple years ago. Only negative is being in the same division as Clemson.
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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by AppSt91 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:19 pm

If Louisville is such a big dumpster fire and requires a total rebuild, then he should get a solid 4 years to show some progress. Pocket $12-$15M then move on. I've never been to Louisville but have seen some describe it as a dump. I could probably tolerate a dump for 4 years for that kind of money. Can't be that bad though, they have bourbon and KFC.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by ah59396 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:21 pm

AppSt91 wrote:
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If Louisville is such a big dumpster fire and requires a total rebuild, then he should get a solid 4 years to show some progress. Pocket $12-$15M then move on. I've never been to Louisville but have seen some describe it as a dump. I could probably tolerate a dump for 4 years for that kind of money. Can't be that bad though, they have bourbon and KFC.
Louisville is a fun city. Right on the bourbon trail, some great history, Kentucky Derby, etc.
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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by diehardapp18 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:22 pm

ah59396 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:18 pm
diehardapp18 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:07 pm
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:40 pm
AppSt91 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:22 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:14 pm


True,but if you were the next in line for the offer and the guy in front of you didn't want it, would that not make you think twice about it yourself? I get your point about it being a P5 but you are giving up job security for a potential short term gig. The avg HC in D1 is 3.8 years. I don't care how much money you are making, that is a rough life. Satt knows this, so he owes it to himself to ask is it worth leaving your dream job for it.
If he's already in his dream job, why did he hire the biggest shark in the water as an agent?
On the flip side, if he hired the biggest shark in the water, why would he settle for a dumpster fire like Louisville?
This is an argument I don’t buy lol. What makes Louisville a dumpster fire other than the fact that they were bad last year?
I don’t get this mentality either. Louisville made a bad hire and needs to be made a winner again, but it’s got a great foundation. Recent heisman trophy winner, won the Sugar Bowl a couple years ago. Only negative is being in the same division as Clemson.
Exactly. Like, yeah they are coming off a bad season but that’s usually the case when a P5 is looking for a new coach. They’ve poured a ton of money into football recently and were in serious national title contention just a few years ago. That was mainly because they had the best player in the country, but still.

Satt would honestly probably be thrilled to get Louisville and I really don’t blame him

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by EastHallApp » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:44 pm

Louisville is going to be a really good opportunity for somebody. Sure there are drawbacks. But it's an athletic department with lots of cash (buyouts or not), very good facilities and a program that's had 10+ win seasons under four different coaches since the '80s.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

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https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.c ... ead-coach/

There goes our primary replacement option.
Well maybe maybe not
http://www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i ... 3251635604
The plot thickens.....

If I am Houston, I am at least waiting to see what Satterfield does.
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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by appstatealum » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:38 pm

ah59396 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:21 pm
AppSt91 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:19 pm
If Louisville is such a big dumpster fire and requires a total rebuild, then he should get a solid 4 years to show some progress. Pocket $12-$15M then move on. I've never been to Louisville but have seen some describe it as a dump. I could probably tolerate a dump for 4 years for that kind of money. Can't be that bad though, they have bourbon and KFC.
Louisville is a fun city. Right on the bourbon trail, some great history, Kentucky Derby, etc.
Louisville is not an ideal city for living. It has a lot of history, but that history includes corruption and disentagrated infrastructure. My company recently expanded operations into Louisville and I was told by a member of my transition team to not even consider a move there, and he was from Baltimore.
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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by DontPlayWithYosef » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:11 am

U of L has a soiled recent history with characters like Tom Jurich, John L. Smith, Pitino and Petrino winning despite shady dealings and now all are gone. The big $$ still calls the shots - run, sprint and run fast...would hate to see a classy guy get sucked in to that crap show when there will be better fits down the road by continuing to win.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by AppNation85 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:28 am

Honestly I think a better career move would be to go be a P5 coordinator somewhere elite like Clemson or Alabama.

Louisville went 0-8 in the ACC this year and the ACC was absolute garbage outside of Clemson. That is a multi-year fix and their fans are impatient. If his first season he only wins 2 ACC games they will already be talking about the next coach move.
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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by HkyMtneer » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:34 am

ah59396 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:21 pm
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If Louisville is such a big dumpster fire and requires a total rebuild, then he should get a solid 4 years to show some progress. Pocket $12-$15M then move on. I've never been to Louisville but have seen some describe it as a dump. I could probably tolerate a dump for 4 years for that kind of money. Can't be that bad though, they have bourbon and KFC.
Louisville is a fun city. Right on the bourbon trail, some great history, Kentucky Derby, etc.
I'm with you. Louisville is a great town. Way underrated in my opinion. It's a river town - plain and simple. That means it's a little "gritty" and a little "grainy". Same could be said of any moderate-sized river town and larger: St. Louis, Memphis, Cincinnati, etc. Louisville is a lot bigger than most realize on name alone, so you have all the attractions of a larger city (good restaurants, lots of entertainment options, plenty of upscale neighborhoods, etc.) and also the downside of larger cities. You hear a lot about the crime, some of the blight...but in my experience, and I'm a big horse-racing and bourbon guy so I think I know it pretty well, it's no worse than any comparable sized city. The downtown area is literally right on the river and has/is going through a major revitalization...lots of good things happening. You have some good casino options across the river in a few directions in IN if that is something Beth likes to do in her spare time (and she'll have plenty of dough to play with!) and betting on the ponies isn't her speed. Campus is actually nicer and more pleasant than one would imagine. Admittedly, you don't think of UofL and think of a traditional college campus but it has all those normal features - a big quad, fancy administration building, nice old buildings, new modern buildings, and the athletic facilities, across the board, are top notch. I'll take Papa John's Stadium (or whatever they are officially calling it these days) and the KFC Yum! Center over any other football/basketball stadium combo in the ACC, save maybe Pitt, maybe State. FSU and Clemson might be up there as well, but I can't speak to the basketball side of things since Littlejohn's and FSU's basketball arena renovation projects. So, all in all, I could think of A LOT worse towns to live in than Louisville...and make A LOT less $$$ while doing it. Just a couple of years and a Lamar Jackson ago and we were talking Cardinals as a CFP possibility - nothing says with Louisville's money, facilities, and rival Kentucky's recent football push, that the Cardinals, with the right man at the helm, couldn't be right back in that discussion in 3/4 years. And they'd give Satt that long under most normal circumstances. I hope he stays, and I hope we can keep fighting them off in an effort to keep Coach for another year or two or three but I'm also a realist and IMHO, if the money is right and the AD is going to be on your side, he'd be a fool to turn down to the Cards job. No guarantees in life that you'll get another chance. 12 months is a long time and as they say, "sh*t happens" - take the P5 job and see what you can make of it. But again, I hope I'm wrong and hopefully they'll just like Neal Brown a little better. LOL.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by hapapp » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:34 am

Rekdiver wrote:
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So Brohm won’t leave Purdue for his alma mater but Satt will leave his alma mater for Louisville...not buying it.
Better opportunity for program and a tripling of total comp. Satt will buy it if the length of contract is there and he likes the AD.
I think that's a valid point. We (or some do) just assume that UL will triple his salary and that's all it takes. There really is some middle ground between he'll jump the first chance he gets and he'll never leave. Scott is a pragmatic guy and will weigh all the aspects of the deal. And I'm pretty sure it's not solely his decision whether to accept the offer (if it comes).

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by The Rock » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:07 am

Still in the crosshairs apparently.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by Appalachman » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:31 am

Satt’s success is also the work of his staff. I do believe he loves Boone and the idea of his kids finishing school here. If Brown gets a big DC job, another guy or two are getting calls and jump, his resume could suffer. He is a great coach but assembling the staff and team required excellent assistants and even support staff. The ACC is his recruiting foot print and teams he knows. I would not be shocked by Lou, GT, or down the road another ACC opening. SEC east is possible with another strong year or two. Knoxville perhaps.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by appchicago » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:16 am

Louisville is a good town. I don't know why people are dumping on it. But I'm not convinced it's a great job right now. Bare cupboard. Fan base that had its heart set on Brohm. Loss of that sweet, sweet Papa John's cash. Lots of money, but I'm not sure it'd be my choice.

Then again, if Satt really did consider Cincinnati, the Louisville job is basically a better version of Cincy in most ways. Higher expectations, but in many other ways it's Cincy's better-looking cousin. Double the salary. Higher profile conference. 50% larger stadium.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by App91 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:37 am

diehardapp18 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:14 pm
App91 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:10 pm
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If he's already in his dream job, why did he hire the biggest shark in the water as an agent?
On the flip side, if he hired the biggest shark in the water, why would he settle for a dumpster fire like Louisville?
This is an argument I don’t buy lol. What makes Louisville a dumpster fire other than the fact that they were bad last year?
See also--Pitino, Rick
Okay their old basketball coach was a sleezeball. That doesn’t answer the question. What makes the job so bad other than having to play Clemson every year?
Its symbolic of their athletic program. Save the Lamar Jackson era, not much there. The city is a dump outside of churchill downs and Valhalla. (my opinion)

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by appchicago » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:46 am

App91 wrote:
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Its symbolic of their athletic program. Save the Lamar Jackson era, not much there. The city is a dump outside of churchill downs and Valhalla. (my opinion)
Been recently? Just curious. Different strokes for different folks, but I've spent a little time there over the last five years and was very pleasantly surprised.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by Goapps15 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:00 am

Louisville is a solid town and with the money he will make he can send his kids to private schools. Good food scene.

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