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Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by JMappfan5 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:32 pm

Bring Ruffin McNeil back to Boone!!!

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:41 pm

appchicago wrote:
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Kirby Smart makes 3.75 at Georgia.
The heck he does. He earns at least $7m a season with his latest contract. https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... extension/

Per the USA Today database, he gets $6,603,600 in base salary with a max bonus of $1,150,000, but $1,350,000 in bonuses paid in 2017-18. http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

His initial contract was $3.75m in base salary, but he made a lot more than that with bonuses and other extras.
What makes you think he'll collect bonuses at Louisville? He is a very successful Sunbelt coach, but Fedora's record as Southern Miss was more impressive, he'd beaten ACC teams and won against a very good Houston team. UNC passed on him in favor of a 67 year old. I wish him nothing but the best, but he is no slamdunk.
I never said he would. I was saying that Kirby Smart's initial contract with UGA was $3.75m, but he made a lot more with bonuses, and then once it was clear he was delivering, pretty quickly renegotiated to make at least $7m a year.

I have no idea how Satt would do at Louisville or anywhere else. No one can know that.

I will say that UNC-CH's passing on Satt in favor of Mack is in no way an indicator of Satt's ability as a coach. They do a lot of things for a lot of reasons, and I don't plan on living my life based on what the Tarholes would do.

But a team (Louisville) that paid its former coach 5 million bucks for a just-okay season isn't going to pay Satterfield or anyone else $1.5m.
I feel like we are on the same page. Satterfield is a good coach. I was talking about base salary. I don't think he's worth 3 mil a year.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by EastHallApp » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:14 pm

One thing to keep in mind about the USA Today list is it's what the SCHOOL is paying them (base and bonuses). That doesn't necessarily include outside income that all coaches get from apparel companies, radio/TV appearances, etc.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by appchicago » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:21 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:41 pm
I feel like we are on the same page. Satterfield is a good coach. I was talking about base salary. I don't think he's worth 3 mil a year.
I'm not sure that we are on the same page. The market will ultimately dictate what he's worth, but I don't think it's a reasonable assumption that he (or his agent) would accept less than 40% of the last coach's base pay. If they offer him that, they don't want him and, conversely, if they want him they won't offer him that.
EastHallApp wrote:
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One thing to keep in mind about the USA Today list is it's what the SCHOOL is paying them (base and bonuses). That doesn't necessarily include outside income that all coaches get from apparel companies, radio/TV appearances, etc.
True. And there are cases like this, where boosters bought Nick Saban's house ($3.1m)--eliminating mortgage and taxes--but the Sabans continued to live there rent-free. It's good to be king. https://www.businessinsider.com/crimson ... ge-2014-10

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by Stonewall » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:14 pm

I suppose an interview as early as Sunday , or Monday. I just want to win Saturday,then get this drama over whatever it brings ,and move on.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by beav910 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:19 pm

JMappfan5 wrote:
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Bring Ruffin McNeil back to Boone!!!
I had this thought too. I'm sure he'd love a chance to get a revenge game against ECU.
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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by Stonewall » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:00 pm

Matt Wells to Texas Tech. Not good.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by W1093&4 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:10 pm

How soon after the game do you think they would meet?

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by Rekdiver » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:27 pm

Is there anyone on the staff that would be considered for the HC job?

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by AppSt94 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:45 pm

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Not saying Satterfield will or will not leave, but Brohm is already at a P5 making P5 money, so this would be a lateral move. Satterfield is not making a lateral move if he goes to a P5..
True,but if you were the next in line for the offer and the guy in front of you didn't want it, would that not make you think twice about it yourself? I get your point about it being a P5 but you are giving up job security for a potential short term gig. The avg HC in D1 is 3.8 years. I don't care how much money you are making, that is a rough life. Satt knows this, so he owes it to himself to ask is it worth leaving your dream job for it.
If he's already in his dream job, why did he hire the biggest shark in the water as an agent?
Fair question. The obvious conclusion that most people would jump to is that he is looking to leave. Maybe it was to hammer out the details of his last contract or review the language to ensure that he was getting what he wanted. Maybe it was so that he knew that his name would come up for future jobs and Sexton is the best at working behind the scenes to do the grunt work so that Satt can focus on coaching. Maybe he hired him to keep his name relevant while his kids finish school here and then he is open to leave. If you keep turning down jobs eventually people will quit offering you. There are a whole host of reasons why he could have hired him. People tend to gravitate to the low hanging fruit (reason for hiring him) because it takes the least amount of effort.
Lol how tired are you from the mental gymnastics? He hired Sexton for one simple reason, to find him the best job paying the most money - that ain’t App my man.
So tell me, do you only read the headlines and draw conclusions because you think you have seen enough to make an educated opinion, or is it because reading more than a paragraph makes your head hurt?

He hired Jimmy Sexton last summer to handle his contract extension. If his intent was to jump ship at the first P5 offer, then why would he pay JS to handle the extension?

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by hotrod2001 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:07 am

beav910 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:19 pm
JMappfan5 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:32 pm
Bring Ruffin McNeil back to Boone!!!
I had this thought too. I'm sure he'd love a chance to get a revenge game against ECU.
Speaking of ECU...apparently they're in the market for a new HC too now.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by Apptiger » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:48 am

Hey Scott,

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

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Is there anyone on the staff that would be considered for the HC job?
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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:10 pm

appchicago wrote:
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I feel like we are on the same page. Satterfield is a good coach. I was talking about base salary. I don't think he's worth 3 mil a year.
I'm not sure that we are on the same page. The market will ultimately dictate what he's worth, but I don't think it's a reasonable assumption that he (or his agent) would accept less than 40% of the last coach's base pay. If they offer him that, they don't want him and, conversely, if they want him they won't offer him that.
He's not their first choice. He wasn't UNC's first choice. Second choices don't get first choice money.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by appchicago » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:24 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:10 pm
appchicago wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:21 pm
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I feel like we are on the same page. Satterfield is a good coach. I was talking about base salary. I don't think he's worth 3 mil a year.
I'm not sure that we are on the same page. The market will ultimately dictate what he's worth, but I don't think it's a reasonable assumption that he (or his agent) would accept less than 40% of the last coach's base pay. If they offer him that, they don't want him and, conversely, if they want him they won't offer him that.
He's not their first choice. He wasn't UNC's first choice. Second choices don't get first choice money.
Time will tell. No sense going back and forth about a hypothetical.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:37 pm

appchicago wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:24 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:10 pm
appchicago wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:21 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:41 pm
I feel like we are on the same page. Satterfield is a good coach. I was talking about base salary. I don't think he's worth 3 mil a year.
I'm not sure that we are on the same page. The market will ultimately dictate what he's worth, but I don't think it's a reasonable assumption that he (or his agent) would accept less than 40% of the last coach's base pay. If they offer him that, they don't want him and, conversely, if they want him they won't offer him that.
He's not their first choice. He wasn't UNC's first choice. Second choices don't get first choice money.
Time will tell. No sense going back and forth about a hypothetical.
He wasn't UNC's first choice. He's not/isn't Louisville's first choice. He is 0-7 against P5s. Arkansas St. beat then 40-27 in Boone in '15. Lost at Umass last year. None of that is hypothetical.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by app97 » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:49 pm

who's to say Satt's agent isn't using all of this publicity to leverage a better contract at App?...unless, of course everything that was worked into contract over the summer is set in stone for now. I know we can't pay what P5 schools can, but maybe we can come up with something to make him the highest paid SB coach, or more comparable to AAC coaches....just throwing out more speculative hypotheticals since that's what we do on message boards..

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by appchicago » Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:56 pm

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He wasn't UNC's first choice. He's not/isn't Louisville's first choice. He is 0-7 against P5s. Arkansas St. beat then 40-27 in Boone in '15. Lost at Umass last year. None of that is hypothetical.
I don't know who you're trying to convince. Louisville and any other P5 school who'd consider Satt knows all that. They also know that he navigated a school's transition to FBS, managed 9+ wins per season over the last three years, played in and won a bowl every year we were eligible, had close losses against P5s, and did most of that with FCS recruits. They may see that he's done a lot with a little, in terms of money, and is great at identifying and honing talent. His players give him--and App--their very best.

Tear down his accomplishments all you want. The fact that remains that if Louisville wants him, they'll pay him. They won't pay him Petrino money, but the kind of cash you're talking about would be insulting.

But who knows? You may be right. That's why I don't want to debate his hypothetical P5 hiring and his hypothetical salary.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by ericsaid » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:26 pm

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No way he will be offered close to 5 million/year.
Correct, his base salary will be around $1 million with bonus's and no guaranteed money because all of Louisville's cash is tied up in buying out Petrino.

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Re: Louisville to meet with Satt after ULL

Unread post by Black Saturday » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:42 pm

ericsaid wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:26 pm
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No way he will be offered close to 5 million/year.
Correct, his base salary will be around $1 million with bonus's and no guaranteed money because all of Louisville's cash is tied up in buying out Petrino.
$1 million is hogwash, higher than that if he goes-which I think it's Brown, Louisville is a monied sports program, the last guy made $5 million and the lowest in the ACC is $1.8 is ACC low.

https://accsports.com/acc-news/football ... t-details/

Closer to $3M than $1M
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