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If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:17 am
by ComebackShack
...and on the spot asked for you to make the App State HC hire, who are you picking?

Thankfully, no one is going to be put in this situation, but first name that comes to mind for me is probably Nate Woody and bring in Dwayne Ledford as OC.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:20 am
by appgrad95&97
I can't wait for the laughter: Greg Schiano. A three or four year "rehab" might not be bad for him or us.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:25 am
by appstate77
Whomever can keep the culture strong.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:27 am
by NattyBumppo'sRevenge
ComebackShack wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:17 am
...and on the spot asked for you to make the App State HC hire, who are you picking?

Thankfully, no one is going to be put in this situation, but first name that comes to mind for me is probably Nate Woody and bring in Dwayne Ledford as OC.
Keep Ivey on as DC and I'm in.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:34 am
by ASUPATCH
Horton, then get the Valdosta coach as OC. Try and bring Woody back up for DC.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:49 am
by Boroneer10
Tim Horton, he's spent the past 7 years doing one of the most difficult/high pressure jobs in college football which is being a recruiting coordinator in the SEC West. That would be a huge advantage for us. His familiarity with Malzahns offense would refine and add wrinkles to our current read option game. Plus his experience at large SEC schools knowing how a big time program should be run is something we need.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:58 am
by Gonzo
Woody as HC, with Horton as OC/Associate HC.

Spend a lot of money, please.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:14 pm
by Yosef10
Eli Drinkwitz.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:22 pm
by appstate77
Budgem Snark from down the road in Mayberry .

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:30 pm
by ericsaid
Ruffin McNeill. Bring Oklahoma Position Coach for OC and try to retain a position coach from Satterfields staff as DC. Too much talent on offense for it to be a run and gun variant. Passing game needs to be more efficient and ECU will always be wrong for having fired McNeill to hire Scottie Montgomery. McNeill has a history of beating UNC and I expect the offense could allow App to not only stick around with USC but provide the same passing game diversity we saw this year against Penn State.

McNeills 5-7 season was the result of losing Shane Carden and Justin Hardy to graduation, losing Lincoln Riley to Kentucky, and then losing Kurt Benkert to a season ending knee injury. Their first season in the AAC saw ECU go 8-4, and he helped ECU get to 10 wins for the first time since 1991. ECU dropped 70 points on UNC, had NC State down 42-7 with 5 minutes left in the game, and managed to beat Virginia Tech in the 5-7 season. He was DC at App during a successful run and this would likely be a destination job for him at this point in his career. With the roster as it is now, there would be little to no drop off and possibly even elevation on the offensive side of the ball.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:35 pm
by ericsaid
Boroneer10 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:49 am
Tim Horton, he's spent the past 7 years doing one of the most difficult/high pressure jobs in college football which is being a recruiting coordinator in the SEC West. That would be a huge advantage for us. His familiarity with Malzahns offense would refine and add wrinkles to our current read option game. Plus his experience at large SEC schools knowing how a big time program should be run is something we need.
What has Tim Horton done with the responsibility, or close to the responsibility, of a Head Coach?

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:36 pm
by ukappfan
Horton is interesting. Haveing an SEC guy would be great and from all reports he is liked by players. I highly doubt woody would come back for anything short of HC.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:41 pm
by Black Saturday
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:30 pm
Ruffin McNeill. Bring Oklahoma Position Coach for OC and try to retain a position coach from Satterfields staff as DC. Too much talent on offense for it to be a run and gun variant. Passing game needs to be more efficient and ECU will always be wrong for having fired McNeill to hire Scottie Montgomery. McNeill has a history of beating UNC and I expect the offense could allow App to not only stick around with USC but provide the same passing game diversity we saw this year against Penn State.
OC Lincoln Riley at ECU was the offensive savant responsible for beating Carolina

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:42 pm
by ukappfan
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:35 pm
Boroneer10 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:49 am
Tim Horton, he's spent the past 7 years doing one of the most difficult/high pressure jobs in college football which is being a recruiting coordinator in the SEC West. That would be a huge advantage for us. His familiarity with Malzahns offense would refine and add wrinkles to our current read option game. Plus his experience at large SEC schools knowing how a big time program should be run is something we need.
What has Tim Horton done with the responsibility, or close to the responsibility, of a Head Coach?
What did Satterfield do close to a HC? He was a position coach then OC for what one year before coming back to app.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:43 pm
by ericsaid
ukappfan wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:42 pm
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:35 pm
Boroneer10 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:49 am
Tim Horton, he's spent the past 7 years doing one of the most difficult/high pressure jobs in college football which is being a recruiting coordinator in the SEC West. That would be a huge advantage for us. His familiarity with Malzahns offense would refine and add wrinkles to our current read option game. Plus his experience at large SEC schools knowing how a big time program should be run is something we need.
What has Tim Horton done with the responsibility, or close to the responsibility, of a Head Coach?
What did Satterfield do close to a HC? He was a position coach then OC for what one year before coming back to app.
He was OC at both Toledo and FIU. Came back as Associate Head Coch and OC to App. Prior to leaving App he had a lot of input in game planning and likely was a leader of the coaching staff. There was a lot that Satterfield did.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:46 pm
by ericsaid
Black Saturday wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:41 pm
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:30 pm
Ruffin McNeill. Bring Oklahoma Position Coach for OC and try to retain a position coach from Satterfields staff as DC. Too much talent on offense for it to be a run and gun variant. Passing game needs to be more efficient and ECU will always be wrong for having fired McNeill to hire Scottie Montgomery. McNeill has a history of beating UNC and I expect the offense could allow App to not only stick around with USC but provide the same passing game diversity we saw this year against Penn State.
OC Lincoln Riley at ECU was the offensive savant responsible for beating Carolina
That's right. And he was a position coach at Texas Tech under Mike Leach who went with Ruffin to Greenville. Lincoln Riley was a great coach, but even his presence at ECU in 2015 wouldn't have helped improve the teams record dramatically. Ultimately ECU lost two QB's when Carden (holds many records at ECU) and Benkert graduated and was hurt, respectively. Justin Hardy was also a record setting Wide Receiver.

But Ruffin had one down year after he got the program on track to sustainability, an issue he wouldn't have at App, and that was due to factors that would have a great effect on many G5 programs.

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:53 pm
by MAD Doctor
Neal Brown- He hasn't had any better offers. ;) :lol:

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:54 pm
by ericsaid
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:20 am
I can't wait for the laughter: Greg Schiano. A three or four year "rehab" might not be bad for him or us.
LOLOLOL

Happy? :lol:

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:55 pm
by ericsaid
MAD Doctor wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:53 pm
Neal Brown- He hasn't had any better offers. ;) :lol:
:lol: :lol:

Re: If Doug Gillin called you...

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:57 pm
by HighlandsApp
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:43 pm
ukappfan wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:42 pm
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:35 pm
Boroneer10 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:49 am
Tim Horton, he's spent the past 7 years doing one of the most difficult/high pressure jobs in college football which is being a recruiting coordinator in the SEC West. That would be a huge advantage for us. His familiarity with Malzahns offense would refine and add wrinkles to our current read option game. Plus his experience at large SEC schools knowing how a big time program should be run is something we need.
What has Tim Horton done with the responsibility, or close to the responsibility, of a Head Coach?
What did Satterfield do close to a HC? He was a position coach then OC for what one year before coming back to app.
He was OC at both Toledo and FIU. Came back as Associate Head Coch and OC to App. Prior to leaving App he had a lot of input in game planning and likely was a leader of the coaching staff. There was a lot that Satterfield did.
He was position coach at Toledo. Then position coach at FIU year one to OC year two.