Josh Gattis

[AppNation85]

Coach Moore wasn’t Nick Saban but he’s still the greatest coach App State has ever had.

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Guys, it’s very unlikely another Jerry Moore situation is going to occur here. You’re just going to frustrate yourselves if that’s where your placing the bar. We just had an App State alum stay 6 years. That should open you fellas eyes just a bit. Gonna have to get used to it.

Can we be honest about Moore? We were pretty good for his first 16 years here - but not great. The fanbase had a lukewarm relationship with him, and hated that he was so loyal to his borderline incompetent OC, Rob Best. We went undefeated in '95, but lost in the QFs, and missed the playoffs 4 of his first 9 years here.

Things went pretty well from 98-02...but we still only made the Semis once, and won 2 outright conference titles, in his first 15 years.

We hit a streak from '05-'09, and Jerry deserves credit for being able to adapt to a hot trend in college offense before others did at our level. Most coaches at that stage in their career wouldn't have had the energy to do that.

That said - even if he had wanted to leave before '07, he wouldn't have had the chance. The Michigan game made him hot for a second, until people realized he was 68.

He lasted so long because he won 8-9 games a year and made the playoffs...and that was good enough for most at the time, particularly our indifferent AD and Chancellor.

If we want a guy like that - we can easily get him...but we have higher expectations now.

I’ll be honest about Coach Moore. He brought us the NC’s in a row and the biggest upset in college football history which forever changed our university for the better, on and off the field. He dedicated himself to this program for 23 years and had a higher winning percentage than Satt. That’s all.

I'm with appgrad on this one. Satterfield was the primary signal caller from 2004-2009 and was the one responsible for transitioning to the spread from the I-formation, which was key to App winning the first National Championship in 2005. Also, if Moore remained coach, we'd still be playing FCS with JMU.

[AppNation85]

Who do you guys think taught Satterfield how to coach in the first place?

[Rekdiver]

Who do you guys think taught Satterfield how to coach in the first place?

I think Satt took stuff from Sparky, Jerry, Toledo and FIU. You can give someone all the material in the world but you have to execute it and Satt did.

[sixtoes9134]

How did Satt take stuff from Sparky?

[GoBoone]

He didn't

[mike87]

I don't know the two men personally but from the results, Satt was a better coach than Moore. Doesn't mean I like Moore less just the way it is. Our next coach will likely be a better coach than Satt and I'll still be just as thankful for what Satt did. A shakeup of the program every 6 to 8 years is good. Same as a corporate rebuild helps a business. Shake off a little dead wood and have a fresh evaluation of talent. We will field a better team next year with fresh eyes picking the 2 deep than we would have with the same old.

[AppStFan1]

Guys, it’s very unlikely another Jerry Moore situation is going to occur here. You’re just going to frustrate yourselves if that’s where your placing the bar. We just had an App State alum stay 6 years. That should open you fellas eyes just a bit. Gonna have to get used to it.

Can we be honest about Moore? We were pretty good for his first 16 years here - but not great. The fanbase had a lukewarm relationship with him, and hated that he was so loyal to his borderline incompetent OC, Rob Best. We went undefeated in '95, but lost in the QFs, and missed the playoffs 4 of his first 9 years here.

Things went pretty well from 98-02...but we still only made the Semis once, and won 2 outright conference titles, in his first 15 years.

We hit a streak from '05-'09, and Jerry deserves credit for being able to adapt to a hot trend in college offense before others did at our level. Most coaches at that stage in their career wouldn't have had the energy to do that.

That said - even if he had wanted to leave before '07, he wouldn't have had the chance. The Michigan game made him hot for a second, until people realized he was 68.

He lasted so long because he won 8-9 games a year and made the playoffs...and that was good enough for most at the time, particularly our indifferent AD and Chancellor.

If we want a guy like that - we can easily get him...but we have higher expectations now.

I’ll be honest about Coach Moore. He brought us the NC’s in a row and the biggest upset in college football history which forever changed our university for the better, on and off the field. He dedicated himself to this program for 23 years and had a higher winning percentage than Satt. That’s all.

I'm with appgrad on this one. Satterfield was the primary signal caller from 2004-2009 and was the one responsible for transitioning to the spread from the I-formation, which was key to App winning the first National Championship in 2005. Also, if Moore remained coach, we'd still be playing FCS with JMU.

It is too early to tell on Scott. He certainly was very good though. He probably learned 80% from JM and the rest from the other two stops.

It is funny you say that about Satt though because he was never able to beat a ranked FBS team with FBS talent but Jerry Moore did it with FCS talent.

He came into a very good situation at App so he was suppose to do well. Luckily for him Louisville has all the tools to be a good program but is in shambles and thus he will have to completely build it up. If he turns it around quickly, which he should be able to, he will get even more money from a big time P5 program.

Let's just hope that either way the line doesn't end with Scott. The new coach has everything he needs to win big in 2019 and do the very things Satt had yet to do. Scott and the other coaches brought in some great talent and this team has the potential to do big things in 2019.

[AppStFan1]

I don't know the two men personally but from the results, Satt was a better coach than Moore. Doesn't mean I like Moore less just the way it is. Our next coach will likely be a better coach than Satt and I'll still be just as thankful for what Satt did. A shakeup of the program every 6 to 8 years is good. Same as a corporate rebuild helps a business. Shake off a little dead wood and have a fresh evaluation of talent. We will field a better team next year with fresh eyes picking the 2 deep than we would have with the same old.

I think Moore did some very difficult things. He was about to get fired and then completely changed the approach and adapted to take a team to 3 straight national title wins. Satt will get a chance to show how great he is having to take a team with no talent and completely transform them. Louisville has great potential but they literally have nothing in the cupboard and a new administration so his ability to given 100% credit as architect is this Louisville job. Any great coach should build something very good when they have the tools and he has the tools at Louisville.

[bcoach]

If our next coach does well in the first year it will tell us absolutely nothing. It is very common for a coach to come into a very good team and do well. It is what he does after that will tell us something. As far as Gattis no way $

[yikas1]

I am 86 grad and have Tremendous respect for what Coach Moore did here as he took over a building program and kept it solid and consistent. The change of offensivr scheme was the greatest thing he did and the upset of Michigan was amazing. However, he wasn’t a great game manager and at times was very conservative play caller. But for his time he was what we needed.

[appstatealum]

Jerry molded the culture of winning here. For that, he will always be the greatest Mountaineer coach. Now we need coaches to come in and continue the traditions that have gotten us to this point like Satterfield did. Satterfield was a great play caller and game day coach, definitely the best we have had as far as Xs and Os.

I’m excited to see what the future holds as we have a very thoughtful AD who will be looking to take it up a notch.

[appgrad]

Don't want to mitigate what Moore did...the fact that the majority of the candidates being mentioned for this job are his former assistants shows how good he was at identifying coaching talent. It's what made the Rob Best loyalty so maddening.

Obviously, if not for him, we don't have Satt, Clark, Horton, Elliott, Sealers, Ruffin, etc. on this list.

And - I will always say I've never seen coach do a complete 180 like he did on offense. He not only saved his job, but changed our program forever. I will always be grateful for his humility and the way he cared for his staff and players. He did it the right way.

My main point is that it wasn't always the sunshine and roses many see it as now. It was static for most of his first 16 years, before exploding in "05. That won't fly for our next hire, IMO.

[Stonewall]

Again , I love Coach Moore,but we were on the verge of becoming a 1-AA power when he walked in the door. Thank you to Mack Brown and Sparky Woods. Until the three peat years I’m not sure we had better teams than Sparky’s

[Yosef84]

Wow...Could there possibly be a WORSE time to start debating Coach Moore? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I have no delusions about JM being some sort of deity, but come on folks! He brought 23 years of stability to App State and that's why people bring him up right now. We're spoiled by that. In those 23 years, he had ONE losing season, THREE national championships and he only missed the playoffs a handful of times. He's in the College Football Hall of Fame....I think it's safe to say he was a solid coach.

Maybe we could hold of on picking nits about any perceived flaws, or at least put them in a separate thread so I can ignore it. I really don't think we need another topic for debate right now.

[ah59396]

We aren’t very good at keeping threads on the subject.

Is Gattis a legit contender or just a little noise to boost his paycheck at Maryland?

[AppGrad78]

Dang, we've been fortunate to have some really good coaches ...

1980 6-4-1 .591 Mike Working
1981 3-7-1 .318 Mike Working
1982 4-7-0 .364 Mike Working
1983 6-5-0 .545 Mack Brown
1984 4-7-0 .364 Sparky Woods
1985 8-3-0 .727 Sparky Woods
1986 9-2-1 .792 Sparky Woods
1987 11-3-0 .786 Sparky Woods
1988 6-4-1 .591 Sparky Woods
1989 9-3-0 .750 Jerry Moore
1990 6-5-0 .545 Jerry Moore
1991 8-4-0 .667 Jerry Moore
1992 7-5-0 .583 Jerry Moore
1993 4-7-0 .364 Jerry Moore
1994 9-4-0 .692 Jerry Moore
1995 12-1-0 .923 Jerry Moore
1996 7-4-0 .636 Jerry Moore
1997 7-4-0 .623 Jerry Moore
1998 10-3-0 .769 Jerry Moore
1999 9-3-0 .750 Jerry Moore
2000 10-4-0 .714 Jerry Moore
2001 9-4-0 .692 Jerry Moore
2002 8-4-0 .667 Jerry Moore
2003 7-4-0 .636 Jerry Moore
2004 6-5-0 .545 Jerry Moore
2005 12-3-0 .800 Jerry Moore
2006 14-1-0 .933 Jerry Moore
2007 13-2-0 .867 Jerry Moore
2008 11-3-0 .786 Jerry Moore
2009 11-3-0 .786 Jerry Moore
2010 10-3-0 .769 Jerry Moore
2011 8-4-0 .667 Jerry Moore
2012 8-4-0 .667 Jerry Moore
2013 4-8-0 .333 Scott Satterfield
2014 7-5-0 .583 Scott Satterfield
2015 11-2-0 .846 Scott Satterfield
2016 10-3-0 .846 Scott Satterfield
2017 9-4-0 .692 Scott Satterfield
2018 10-2-0 .833 Scott Satterfield

[appstatealum]

Wow...Could there possibly be a WORSE time to start debating Coach Moore? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I have no delusions about JM being some sort of deity, but come on folks! He brought 23 years of stability to App State and that's why people bring him up right now. We're spoiled by that. In those 23 years, he had ONE losing season, THREE national championships and he only missed the playoffs a handful of times. He's in the College Football Hall of Fame....I think it's safe to say he was a solid coach.

Maybe we could hold of on picking nits about any perceived flaws, or at least put them in a separate thread so I can ignore it. I really don't think we need another topic for debate right now.

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[Cro-Magnon App]

Tell it, Yosef84!

[bcoach]

Again , I love Coach Moore,but we were on the verge of becoming a 1-AA power when he walked in the door. Thank you to Mack Brown and Sparky Woods. Until the three peat years I’m not sure we had better teams than Sparky’s

What on earth did Mack Brown do?