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CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by HighlandsApp » Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:37 pm

More enjoyable than coach debates....

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Nice to be included by the CBS Sports "committee". The computer simulation against UCF.......
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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by AppRolls » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:24 pm

Incoming............

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by Rekdiver » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:58 pm

Time to file suit under federal racketeering laws against the NCAA and the FBS P5 conferences.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by Stonewall » Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:30 pm

They could call it , 1-AA.

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Unread post by APPdiesel » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:31 am

Rekdiver wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:58 pm
Time to file suit under federal racketeering laws against the NCAA and the FBS P5 conferences.
Pretty sure we can't file suit when we (the Sunbelt Conference and the G5 as a whole) agreed to the terms and conditions in contractual form. Our best bet is to hitch our wagon to the eventual Pac12 gripe that they keep getting left out and that conference champions get in. (Highest rated G5 conference champion of course, not all 5 of is).
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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by BlueCreekAppFan » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:38 am

AppRolls wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:24 pm
Incoming............
Best laugh so far this week.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by ericsaid » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:49 am

APPdiesel wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:31 am
Rekdiver wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:58 pm
Time to file suit under federal racketeering laws against the NCAA and the FBS P5 conferences.
Pretty sure we can't filt suit when we (the Sunbelt Conference and the G5 as a whole) agreed to the terms and conditions in contractual form. Our best bet is to hitch our wagon to the eventual Pac12 gripe that they keep getting left out and that conference champions get in. (Highest rated G5 conference champion of course, not all 5 of is).
Are you familiar with contract law? A contract made with questionably legality could be subject to being null and void. Of course it would take a lawsuit to address the question of the legality of the current system and the contract.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by Rekdiver » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:02 am

I'm betting we have enough to constitute a class-action suit and force a 16 team playoff

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Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:49 am

The interesting thing to me about those rankings is that three of the top 6 G5 teams are from the Mt. West. Now that's a conference with a reason to gripe.

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Unread post by stafford » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:14 pm

Back in around 1999, I was in a graduate class at UNC Greensboro. Their AD was asked to present as a guest speaker in one of my classes. He began describing the realignment that had not yet occurred. He told us how the bigger conferences would start stealing schools to add and it would become every man (school) for himself. These bigger conferences would be at the top level of college athletics.

He said the remaining schools in D1 would form their own conferences in a second tier. And he said that the schools at the IAA level would essentially become the third tier in DI college athletics. Basically, everything he said happened in almost the exact way that he described starting 10 years later.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:19 pm

stafford wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:14 pm
Back in around 1999, I was in a graduate class at UNC Greensboro. Their AD was asked to present as a guest speaker in one of my classes. He began describing the realignment that had not yet occurred. He told us how the bigger conferences would start stealing schools to add and it would become every man (school) for himself. These bigger conferences would be at the top level of college athletics.

He said the remaining schools in D1 would form their own conferences in a second tier. And he said that the schools at the IAA level would essentially become the third tier in DI college athletics. Basically, everything he said happened in almost the exact way that he described starting 10 years later.
The thing that really holds the ultimate goal of four 16 team power conferences from being a reality is geography (as funny as that seems at this point)

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by AppScott89 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:38 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:19 pm
stafford wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:14 pm
Back in around 1999, I was in a graduate class at UNC Greensboro. Their AD was asked to present as a guest speaker in one of my classes. He began describing the realignment that had not yet occurred. He told us how the bigger conferences would start stealing schools to add and it would become every man (school) for himself. These bigger conferences would be at the top level of college athletics.

He said the remaining schools in D1 would form their own conferences in a second tier. And he said that the schools at the IAA level would essentially become the third tier in DI college athletics. Basically, everything he said happened in almost the exact way that he described starting 10 years later.
The thing that really holds the ultimate goal of four 16 team power conferences from being a reality is geography (as funny as that seems at this point)
How about this.

Add Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State to Big 10 and drop Rutgers. 14+3-1=16
Add West Virginia and Notre Dame to ACC. 14+2=16
Add Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU and Texas Tech to Pac-12. 12+4=16
Add Texas and Baylor to SEC. 14+2 = 16

There you have 4 - 16 team conferences. Doesn't add to much travel.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:44 pm

AppScott89 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:38 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:19 pm
stafford wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:14 pm
Back in around 1999, I was in a graduate class at UNC Greensboro. Their AD was asked to present as a guest speaker in one of my classes. He began describing the realignment that had not yet occurred. He told us how the bigger conferences would start stealing schools to add and it would become every man (school) for himself. These bigger conferences would be at the top level of college athletics.

He said the remaining schools in D1 would form their own conferences in a second tier. And he said that the schools at the IAA level would essentially become the third tier in DI college athletics. Basically, everything he said happened in almost the exact way that he described starting 10 years later.
The thing that really holds the ultimate goal of four 16 team power conferences from being a reality is geography (as funny as that seems at this point)
How about this.

Add Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State to Big 10 and drop Rutgers. 14+3-1=16
Add West Virginia and Notre Dame to ACC. 14+2=16
Add Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU and Texas Tech to Pac-12. 12+4=16
Add Texas and Baylor to SEC. 14+2 = 16

There you have 4 - 16 team conferences. Doesn't add to much travel.
That's not bad. I mean that. But now you've created academic issues in the Pac 12 and Big 10, and to a lesser degree by adding WVU to the ACC.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by AppSC » Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:53 pm

Stonewall wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:30 pm
They could call it , 1-AA.
:lol:

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:00 pm

The four team playoff and the eventual eight team playoff is all about making good on ESPN's promises to their advertisers. The "problem" with four teams isn't that it's too few teams, but such a small geographic footprint. Look at last year, Alabama, UGA, and Clemson. Four teams would be great if they had Texas or Oklahoma, USC or UCLA (they'd live with Oregon or Washington every so often), Ohio St., Notre Dame, or Michigan (Wisconsin or Penn St. would do) and a team from the South.

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Unread post by APPdiesel » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:43 pm

ericsaid wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:49 am
APPdiesel wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:31 am
Rekdiver wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:58 pm
Time to file suit under federal racketeering laws against the NCAA and the FBS P5 conferences.
Pretty sure we can't filt suit when we (the Sunbelt Conference and the G5 as a whole) agreed to the terms and conditions in contractual form. Our best bet is to hitch our wagon to the eventual Pac12 gripe that they keep getting left out and that conference champions get in. (Highest rated G5 conference champion of course, not all 5 of is).
Are you familiar with contract law? A contract made with questionably legality could be subject to being null and void. Of course it would take a lawsuit to address the question of the legality of the current system and the contract.
Asinine response. Just because you don't like the terms that doesn't make them spurious and it's not like anyone put a gun to our head. We signed it. Unless we have something more to offer the other side has no reason to renegotiate the terms.

For the record I don't like that we have no clear path to a playoff either but it's not like the G5 has gotten nothing out of the deal. We all receive more money and have a guaranteed spot in a NY6 game that we didn't have before.
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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by AppScott89 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:50 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:44 pm
AppScott89 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:38 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:19 pm
stafford wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:14 pm
Back in around 1999, I was in a graduate class at UNC Greensboro. Their AD was asked to present as a guest speaker in one of my classes. He began describing the realignment that had not yet occurred. He told us how the bigger conferences would start stealing schools to add and it would become every man (school) for himself. These bigger conferences would be at the top level of college athletics.

He said the remaining schools in D1 would form their own conferences in a second tier. And he said that the schools at the IAA level would essentially become the third tier in DI college athletics. Basically, everything he said happened in almost the exact way that he described starting 10 years later.
The thing that really holds the ultimate goal of four 16 team power conferences from being a reality is geography (as funny as that seems at this point)
How about this.

Add Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State to Big 10 and drop Rutgers. 14+3-1=16
Add West Virginia and Notre Dame to ACC. 14+2=16
Add Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU and Texas Tech to Pac-12. 12+4=16
Add Texas and Baylor to SEC. 14+2 = 16

There you have 4 - 16 team conferences. Doesn't add to much travel.
That's not bad. I mean that. But now you've created academic issues in the Pac 12 and Big 10, and to a lesser degree by adding WVU to the ACC.
I thought about the academics, especially with the Big 10. However, I thought dismembering the Big 12 was the easiest way to get to 4 conferences. Just can't have you cake and eat it to sometimes.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by appgrad95&97 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:42 pm

AppScott89 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:50 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:44 pm
AppScott89 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:38 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:19 pm
stafford wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:14 pm
Back in around 1999, I was in a graduate class at UNC Greensboro. Their AD was asked to present as a guest speaker in one of my classes. He began describing the realignment that had not yet occurred. He told us how the bigger conferences would start stealing schools to add and it would become every man (school) for himself. These bigger conferences would be at the top level of college athletics.

He said the remaining schools in D1 would form their own conferences in a second tier. And he said that the schools at the IAA level would essentially become the third tier in DI college athletics. Basically, everything he said happened in almost the exact way that he described starting 10 years later.
The thing that really holds the ultimate goal of four 16 team power conferences from being a reality is geography (as funny as that seems at this point)
How about this.

Add Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State to Big 10 and drop Rutgers. 14+3-1=16
Add West Virginia and Notre Dame to ACC. 14+2=16
Add Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU and Texas Tech to Pac-12. 12+4=16
Add Texas and Baylor to SEC. 14+2 = 16

There you have 4 - 16 team conferences. Doesn't add to much travel.
That's not bad. I mean that. But now you've created academic issues in the Pac 12 and Big 10, and to a lesser degree by adding WVU to the ACC.
I thought about the academics, especially with the Big 10. However, I thought dismembering the Big 12 was the easiest way to get to 4 conferences. Just can't have you cake and eat it to sometimes.
Let's be honest, from a football perspective, the ACC is weak. Clemson, FSU, Miami, and Va Tech are all they really have to offer. I mean, Wake, BC, Syracuse, Duke... The ACC is very luck to have had Clemson's run.

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by Black Saturday » Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:52 pm

appgrad95&97 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:42 pm
AppScott89 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:50 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:44 pm
AppScott89 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:38 pm
appgrad95&97 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:19 pm


The thing that really holds the ultimate goal of four 16 team power conferences from being a reality is geography (as funny as that seems at this point)
How about this.

Add Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State to Big 10 and drop Rutgers. 14+3-1=16
Add West Virginia and Notre Dame to ACC. 14+2=16
Add Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, TCU and Texas Tech to Pac-12. 12+4=16
Add Texas and Baylor to SEC. 14+2 = 16

There you have 4 - 16 team conferences. Doesn't add to much travel.
That's not bad. I mean that. But now you've created academic issues in the Pac 12 and Big 10, and to a lesser degree by adding WVU to the ACC.
I thought about the academics, especially with the Big 10. However, I thought dismembering the Big 12 was the easiest way to get to 4 conferences. Just can't have you cake and eat it to sometimes.
Let's be honest, from a football perspective, the ACC is weak. Clemson, FSU, Miami, and Va Tech are all they really have to offer. I mean, Wake, BC, Syracuse, Duke... The ACC is very luck to have had Clemson's run.
Where do UNC NCState and UVa fit? Wake played an important role in the conference this year, they likely knocked State out of a NY6 bowl,.Wake has won an ACC title since UNC and State. Wake just beat SEC Texas A&M in Charlotte last year. And to think APP was a blocked kick from whipping Wake. Tisk...Tisk

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Re: CBS Sports G5 playoff

Unread post by goapps93 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:43 pm

The same could almost be said of the SEC, without 'Bama and UGA they're just an average conference. They're lucky to have had 'Bama's run.
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