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I agree 100%. Wouldn't be mad to see LSU kick their assappvette wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:06 pmUCF annoys me with their arrogance... Self-declared P6 conference and national championship. And they expect a home-and-home game against a school with over double the attendance. If Wake had over double our attendance, I gaurantee they wouldn't play us without extenuating circumstances.
And I think we would be just a misguided as they are. They have not earned the right to be in the playoff and they have not earned the right to DEMAND home and home contracts with top level SEC teams. They have simply beaten who is on their schedule which is all any team can do.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:31 pmI think UCF has a legit argument. And yes, we would be just like them if in the same boat. Had we beat Tenn last year and then Penn this year....and went undefeated, we would be screaming to be included in the playoff. Just like we all screamed for them to rank us...or for us to have a NY6 bowl.... Don't be jealous folks. They've earned it.
I'll disagree. I think with the school of their size and their record, they've earned at least a shot. They are the hot commodity right now. If UF wants to run from them then so be it. I can't blame them one bit for taking a stand. Status quo isn't always what's best.goapps93 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:38 pmAnd I think we would be just a misguided as they are. They have not earned the right to be in the playoff and they have not earned the right to DEMAND home and home contracts with top level SEC teams. They have simply beaten who is on their schedule which is all any team can do.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:31 pmI think UCF has a legit argument. And yes, we would be just like them if in the same boat. Had we beat Tenn last year and then Penn this year....and went undefeated, we would be screaming to be included in the playoff. Just like we all screamed for them to rank us...or for us to have a NY6 bowl.... Don't be jealous folks. They've earned it.
No problem disagreeing. I just don't think they've played near the schedule that the P5s play. We have to be honest about that. If I were Florida I wouldn't want to give up another game in my much bigger stadium.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:51 pmI'll disagree. I think with the school of their size and their record, they've earned at least a shot. They are the hot commodity right now. If UF wants to run from them then so be it. I can't blame them one bit for taking a stand. Status quo isn't always what's best.goapps93 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:38 pmAnd I think we would be just a misguided as they are. They have not earned the right to be in the playoff and they have not earned the right to DEMAND home and home contracts with top level SEC teams. They have simply beaten who is on their schedule which is all any team can do.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:31 pmI think UCF has a legit argument. And yes, we would be just like them if in the same boat. Had we beat Tenn last year and then Penn this year....and went undefeated, we would be screaming to be included in the playoff. Just like we all screamed for them to rank us...or for us to have a NY6 bowl.... Don't be jealous folks. They've earned it.
I get that also...... What I do like is that Boise, and now UCF are helping to change the rules for us as we rise....goapps93 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:54 pmNo problem disagreeing. I just don't think they've played near the schedule that the P5s play. We have to be honest about that. If I were Florida I wouldn't want to give up another game in my much bigger stadium.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:51 pmI'll disagree. I think with the school of their size and their record, they've earned at least a shot. They are the hot commodity right now. If UF wants to run from them then so be it. I can't blame them one bit for taking a stand. Status quo isn't always what's best.goapps93 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:38 pmAnd I think we would be just a misguided as they are. They have not earned the right to be in the playoff and they have not earned the right to DEMAND home and home contracts with top level SEC teams. They have simply beaten who is on their schedule which is all any team can do.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:31 pmI think UCF has a legit argument. And yes, we would be just like them if in the same boat. Had we beat Tenn last year and then Penn this year....and went undefeated, we would be screaming to be included in the playoff. Just like we all screamed for them to rank us...or for us to have a NY6 bowl.... Don't be jealous folks. They've earned it.
It isn't about what is "earned". I see this a lot here. It's about who is best. UCF would likely be demolished by Alabama, Clemson, and Notre Dame. The Oklahoma game would be close because OU's defense rarely get's off the bus. UCF doesn't deserve to be in a 4-team playoff but the FBS deserves an 8-slot playoff system.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:51 pmI'll disagree. I think with the school of their size and their record, they've earned at least a shot. They are the hot commodity right now. If UF wants to run from them then so be it. I can't blame them one bit for taking a stand. Status quo isn't always what's best.goapps93 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:38 pmAnd I think we would be just a misguided as they are. They have not earned the right to be in the playoff and they have not earned the right to DEMAND home and home contracts with top level SEC teams. They have simply beaten who is on their schedule which is all any team can do.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:31 pmI think UCF has a legit argument. And yes, we would be just like them if in the same boat. Had we beat Tenn last year and then Penn this year....and went undefeated, we would be screaming to be included in the playoff. Just like we all screamed for them to rank us...or for us to have a NY6 bowl.... Don't be jealous folks. They've earned it.
That 0-12 was a massive outlier, as you presumably know. They beat Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl not long before that, and of course beat Auburn last year. But of course people can keep throwing out the “they’d get crushed by (playoff team X)” line, and as long as they aren’t allowed in, there’s no way to disprove it.
Scheduling contracts have nothing to do with "earning it". Just like any free market, each school is only responsible for doing what's best for themselves. Every away game has an opportunity cost to the school that they could have otherwise earned by playing at home. Assuming each fan is worth $50 in revenue (tickets, concessions, souvenirs, etc.) University of Florida makes $4.25M for each home game and UCF makes $1.9M. UF isn't going to say "gee, UCF is pretty good this year so we will trade something valued at $4.25M for something that is valued at $1.9M". A 2-for-1 deal would roughly be fair or else UF can play two home games paying the opponents $1.5M each and make $5.5M whereas a home-and-home with UCF would net them only $4.25M. Add in the fact that UCF has more to gain from a branding perspective in the home-and-home and it would be stupid for UF to agree to it.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:51 pmI'll disagree. I think with the school of their size and their record, they've earned at least a shot. They are the hot commodity right now. If UF wants to run from them then so be it. I can't blame them one bit for taking a stand. Status quo isn't always what's best.goapps93 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:38 pmAnd I think we would be just a misguided as they are. They have not earned the right to be in the playoff and they have not earned the right to DEMAND home and home contracts with top level SEC teams. They have simply beaten who is on their schedule which is all any team can do.ASUTodd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:31 pmI think UCF has a legit argument. And yes, we would be just like them if in the same boat. Had we beat Tenn last year and then Penn this year....and went undefeated, we would be screaming to be included in the playoff. Just like we all screamed for them to rank us...or for us to have a NY6 bowl.... Don't be jealous folks. They've earned it.
