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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by moonshine » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:26 pm

Who is this Satterfield everyone keeps mentioning? :lol:


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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by ericsaid » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:43 pm

Yosef10 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:14 pm
appaneer1984 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:09 pm
Good interview, wish the radio host(s) hadn't brought up NCSU, Drink is the App coach now and we should all be focusing on the exciting things he's bringing up the Mountain
I get what you’re saying, but that’s just as much a sales pitch as anything else. You don’t think the fact that 2 WRs, a QB, and an OL getting drafted from Drinks offense is a huge selling point to kids? Especially with the guys with offers from low P5’s. I happen to think that is part of what will separate us from the rest of the SBC in recruiting.
Throw in Dorsey coaching the NFL MVP QB for 5 seasons and having NFL Connections out the wazzou and they should be able to attract a few highly rated guys. With Drink's offense being QB centric and WR centric, Drink and Dorsey should be able to target some highly touted guys and push the ability to have connections within the NFL and join a prolific attack.

If App could get the facilities enhancement project moving in conjunction with this coaching change, big things could happen. You've got Dorsey who played and coached in NFL, DJ Smith who played in the NFL and at App for four years. Drink has several years of evidence to provide for what QB's can do in his system, as well as receivers. App isn't the easiest sell due to location but the culture of the program is intact and if anything, I feel that Drink isn't of Scott's mindset of "Well we won three conference championships and three Bowl games. What else can you do at App State?".

UCF and Boise State are examples of what else you can do Scott. Don't out App because the growth doesn't outpace the way we age. App is on the precipous of joining the Boise State and UCF talking point annually; all that is lacking is a P5 win. A win over Tennessee or Penn State would've officially put App on the map as a Boise State like team. Beat UNC in September and get geared up to beat USC at a time that App should be peaking and the program should be well on it's way.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by Gonzo » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:47 pm

The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:20 pm
Yosef wrote:
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Stay may be more conservative, but I think his conservative play is exactly why we won as many as we have. Not saying I don’t mind the higher octane offenses with risk, just saying our defense has been as good as they are because they aren’t on the field all night with a fast scoring offense.
Thats true at times, but often we put the D back on the field too quickly by going 3 and out running conservative plays. Satt relied on the D to close out games, and it almost always did except for Troy 2 years ago, but we put too much pressure on D at times by not going for the kill.
We relied on the D to close out the Wake game also and it didn’t work out.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by Appftw » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:53 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:47 pm
The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:20 pm
Yosef wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:12 pm
Stay may be more conservative, but I think his conservative play is exactly why we won as many as we have. Not saying I don’t mind the higher octane offenses with risk, just saying our defense has been as good as they are because they aren’t on the field all night with a fast scoring offense.
Thats true at times, but often we put the D back on the field too quickly by going 3 and out running conservative plays. Satt relied on the D to close out games, and it almost always did except for Troy 2 years ago, but we put too much pressure on D at times by not going for the kill.
We relied on the D to close out the Wake game also and it didn’t work out.
The D played well against Wake. It was the special teams and kicking mishaps that did us in.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by Rick83 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:17 pm

Appftw wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:53 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:47 pm
The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:20 pm
Yosef wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:12 pm
Stay may be more conservative, but I think his conservative play is exactly why we won as many as we have. Not saying I don’t mind the higher octane offenses with risk, just saying our defense has been as good as they are because they aren’t on the field all night with a fast scoring offense.
Thats true at times, but often we put the D back on the field too quickly by going 3 and out running conservative plays. Satt relied on the D to close out games, and it almost always did except for Troy 2 years ago, but we put too much pressure on D at times by not going for the kill.
We relied on the D to close out the Wake game also and it didn’t work out.
The D played well against Wake. It was the special teams and kicking mishaps that did us in.
Agreed, like the stupid off-sides penalty when our guy took a step forward before dropping back when Wake was punting that gave them a first down which led to a touchdown if I recall correctly.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by Yosef84 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:20 pm

Gonzo wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:47 pm
The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:20 pm
Yosef wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:12 pm
Stay may be more conservative, but I think his conservative play is exactly why we won as many as we have. Not saying I don’t mind the higher octane offenses with risk, just saying our defense has been as good as they are because they aren’t on the field all night with a fast scoring offense.
Thats true at times, but often we put the D back on the field too quickly by going 3 and out running conservative plays. Satt relied on the D to close out games, and it almost always did except for Troy 2 years ago, but we put too much pressure on D at times by not going for the kill.
We relied on the D to close out the Wake game also and it didn’t work out.
Actually the D made the stop but special teams gave Wake the ball back with an off sides call (on a player who was dropping into coverage to boot)....combined with a blocked kick at the end.

Coaches can only put the team in position to win. Players have to execute. Our coaches have had us in the position to with THREE P5 games over the past three years but we've had some unusually bad breaks. The law of averages says that we should be "due" (or past due) for one of these to go our way. :-D



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by Apptrain » Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:38 pm

bigdaddyg wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:36 pm
I hesitate to say this because inveriably someone will knee jerk react but personally I’m am one who is looking for more offense. When I say more I mean boat race opponents type offense. I mean like occasionally hanging 50 on a good opponent. I mean not simply running up the middle for the last quarter and a half and be content with a 10 point win. We are loaded with weapons. Let them loose.
I couldn’t agree more. If we want to climb in the top 25 we need to destroy as many opponents as possible by as much as possible. Bobby Bowden used to say it’s your job to stop me, not my job to let up.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by APPdiesel » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:08 pm

The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:07 pm
It seems like Drink is really making an effort to get out to a lot of the other sports’ outings as well. I know he has been to basketball games and I think he was at a wrestling match earlier this week.
Good to see him supporting other sports and getting out in the community too.
I live in Greenville, SC (Furman country). Furman's football and lacrosse teams have made it a priority over the last 3 seasons to be at every single men's and women's basketball games. Prior to this Furman basketball had no atmosphere. The players go, have fun, get loud, do chants and cheers, and the fans love it. Football players asked their social media followers to come to games. Students started coming to join in and now their games are packed.

Why can't we get our players to do the same?


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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by appstatealum » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:22 pm

Rick83 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:17 pm
Appftw wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:53 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:47 pm
The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:20 pm
Yosef wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:12 pm
Stay may be more conservative, but I think his conservative play is exactly why we won as many as we have. Not saying I don’t mind the higher octane offenses with risk, just saying our defense has been as good as they are because they aren’t on the field all night with a fast scoring offense.
Thats true at times, but often we put the D back on the field too quickly by going 3 and out running conservative plays. Satt relied on the D to close out games, and it almost always did except for Troy 2 years ago, but we put too much pressure on D at times by not going for the kill.
We relied on the D to close out the Wake game also and it didn’t work out.
The D played well against Wake. It was the special teams and kicking mishaps that did us in.
Agreed, like the stupid off-sides penalty when our guy took a step forward before dropping back when Wake was punting that gave them a first down which led to a touchdown if I recall correctly.
I about lost my mind at that point. My wife had to calm me down since I sit up near the players’ parents section.


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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by AppinATL » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:45 pm

HighPointApp wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:19 pm
At one point during the Clemson/Alabama game, Alabama had almost double (I think) time of possession (TOP) but Clemson was up by 2-3 touchdowns. I don't know if that was a fluke game for TOP but the stat caught my eye.
That's exactly how we used to be back in the Armanti years. I remember times when our scoring drives averaged well under 3 minutes.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by ericsaid » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:56 pm

APPdiesel wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:08 pm
The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:07 pm
It seems like Drink is really making an effort to get out to a lot of the other sports’ outings as well. I know he has been to basketball games and I think he was at a wrestling match earlier this week.
Good to see him supporting other sports and getting out in the community too.
I live in Greenville, SC (Furman country). Furman's football and lacrosse teams have made it a priority over the last 3 seasons to be at every single men's and women's basketball games. Prior to this Furman basketball had no atmosphere. The players go, have fun, get loud, do chants and cheers, and the fans love it. Football players asked their social media followers to come to games. Students started coming to join in and now their games are packed.

Why can't we get our players to do the same?
You have a Podcast. Invite some players on your Podcast and bring up the idea. You may want to find someone in a leadership position on the team like Zac or Cory and float the idea to them. Let them know of the impact it has had at Furman and see how receptive they are.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by ericsaid » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:59 pm

appstatealum wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:22 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:17 pm
Appftw wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:53 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:47 pm
The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:20 pm


Thats true at times, but often we put the D back on the field too quickly by going 3 and out running conservative plays. Satt relied on the D to close out games, and it almost always did except for Troy 2 years ago, but we put too much pressure on D at times by not going for the kill.
We relied on the D to close out the Wake game also and it didn’t work out.
The D played well against Wake. It was the special teams and kicking mishaps that did us in.
Agreed, like the stupid off-sides penalty when our guy took a step forward before dropping back when Wake was punting that gave them a first down which led to a touchdown if I recall correctly.
I about lost my mind at that point. My wife had to calm me down since I sit up near the players’ parents section.
You want madness, watch this 4th and 2 play against Penn State. I've watched it 25 times and there is no reason app shouldn't have stopped this. Duck followed the man he was lined up on up the field a bit and then broke when McSorley threw the ball. The guy duck followed was covered underneath and over top by the outside guy. McSorley saw Duck playing underneath expecting to undercut the quick out but he threw it over top. Good throw by McSorley but Duck should've been on this man like white on rice.

A better play may have been man considering it was going to be a quick play. They stopped the verticals and it looked like the idea was to keep Penn State from scoring, not cover the distance to a first down.


4th and 2



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by Yosef10 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:27 pm

There was a Wake game? I didn’t think this loss could be outdone until Penn State came along. It physically hurts to think about.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by Appster99 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:51 pm

ericsaid wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:59 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:22 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:17 pm
Appftw wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:53 pm
Gonzo wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:47 pm


We relied on the D to close out the Wake game also and it didn’t work out.
The D played well against Wake. It was the special teams and kicking mishaps that did us in.
Agreed, like the stupid off-sides penalty when our guy took a step forward before dropping back when Wake was punting that gave them a first down which led to a touchdown if I recall correctly.
I about lost my mind at that point. My wife had to calm me down since I sit up near the players’ parents section.
You want madness, watch this 4th and 2 play against Penn State. I've watched it 25 times and there is no reason app shouldn't have stopped this. Duck followed the man he was lined up on up the field a bit and then broke when McSorley threw the ball. The guy duck followed was covered underneath and over top by the outside guy. McSorley saw Duck playing underneath expecting to undercut the quick out but he threw it over top. Good throw by McSorley but Duck should've been on this man like white on rice.

A better play may have been man considering it was going to be a quick play. They stopped the verticals and it looked like the idea was to keep Penn State from scoring, not cover the distance to a first down.


4th and 2
I sit next to one of our best ILBs dad at games and he used to loose his sh!t when it was 3rd and really long and we would go nickle. Partly because his son got pulled off the field, but our DBs lined up so deep its like we forgot how to be aggressive. 3rd and 25 and we would give up 24. We usually stooped them, but a more aggressive approach (our regular scheme) would just as likely have stopped them 20 yards sooner giving us better field position. I understand the philosophy, don't get me wrong, but it freaks us out as fans.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by The Rock » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:35 pm

Appster99 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:51 pm
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:59 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:22 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:17 pm
Appftw wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:53 pm


The D played well against Wake. It was the special teams and kicking mishaps that did us in.
Agreed, like the stupid off-sides penalty when our guy took a step forward before dropping back when Wake was punting that gave them a first down which led to a touchdown if I recall correctly.
I about lost my mind at that point. My wife had to calm me down since I sit up near the players’ parents section.
You want madness, watch this 4th and 2 play against Penn State. I've watched it 25 times and there is no reason app shouldn't have stopped this. Duck followed the man he was lined up on up the field a bit and then broke when McSorley threw the ball. The guy duck followed was covered underneath and over top by the outside guy. McSorley saw Duck playing underneath expecting to undercut the quick out but he threw it over top. Good throw by McSorley but Duck should've been on this man like white on rice.

A better play may have been man considering it was going to be a quick play. They stopped the verticals and it looked like the idea was to keep Penn State from scoring, not cover the distance to a first down.


4th and 2
I sit next to one of our best ILBs dad at games and he used to loose his sh!t when it was 3rd and really long and we would go nickle. Partly because his son got pulled off the field, but our DBs lined up so deep its like we forgot how to be aggressive. 3rd and 25 and we would give up 24. We usually stooped them, but a more aggressive approach (our regular scheme) would just as likely have stopped them 20 yards sooner giving us better field position. I understand the philosophy, don't get me wrong, but it freaks us out as fans.
That’s the point in those situations. Guard the line to gain and keep everything in front of you. I don’t care if we give up 24 yards as long as it results in a turnover or punt.
The only time this wouldn’t work is in a cas like GA southern’s bowl game. 4th and long with a QB who can’t throw.
The brought a 3 man rush and dropped everyone else into coverage which left their highly mobile QB wide open to run for a 1st down.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by WASU 93 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:17 pm

The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:35 pm
Appster99 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:51 pm
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:59 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:22 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:17 pm

Agreed, like the stupid off-sides penalty when our guy took a step forward before dropping back when Wake was punting that gave them a first down which led to a touchdown if I recall correctly.
I about lost my mind at that point. My wife had to calm me down since I sit up near the players’ parents section.
You want madness, watch this 4th and 2 play against Penn State. I've watched it 25 times and there is no reason app shouldn't have stopped this. Duck followed the man he was lined up on up the field a bit and then broke when McSorley threw the ball. The guy duck followed was covered underneath and over top by the outside guy. McSorley saw Duck playing underneath expecting to undercut the quick out but he threw it over top. Good throw by McSorley but Duck should've been on this man like white on rice.

A better play may have been man considering it was going to be a quick play. They stopped the verticals and it looked like the idea was to keep Penn State from scoring, not cover the distance to a first down.


4th and 2
I sit next to one of our best ILBs dad at games and he used to loose his sh!t when it was 3rd and really long and we would go nickle. Partly because his son got pulled off the field, but our DBs lined up so deep its like we forgot how to be aggressive. 3rd and 25 and we would give up 24. We usually stooped them, but a more aggressive approach (our regular scheme) would just as likely have stopped them 20 yards sooner giving us better field position. I understand the philosophy, don't get me wrong, but it freaks us out as fans.
That’s the point in those situations. Guard the line to gain and keep everything in front of you. I don’t care if we give up 24 yards as long as it results in a turnover or punt.
The only time this wouldn’t work is in a cas like GA southern’s bowl game. 4th and long with a QB who can’t throw.
The brought a 3 man rush and dropped everyone else into coverage which left their highly mobile QB wide open to run for a 1st down.
I think prevent defenses (with the mindset of preventing the big play, but giving up easy chunk yardage) are the worst thing an aggressive defense can do.

However, our scheme of guarding the line to gain on 3rd and forever situations with 5, 6, or 7 defenders has a high success rate and is effective.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by APPdiesel » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:18 am

ericsaid wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:56 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:08 pm
The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:07 pm
It seems like Drink is really making an effort to get out to a lot of the other sports’ outings as well. I know he has been to basketball games and I think he was at a wrestling match earlier this week.
Good to see him supporting other sports and getting out in the community too.
I live in Greenville, SC (Furman country). Furman's football and lacrosse teams have made it a priority over the last 3 seasons to be at every single men's and women's basketball games. Prior to this Furman basketball had no atmosphere. The players go, have fun, get loud, do chants and cheers, and the fans love it. Football players asked their social media followers to come to games. Students started coming to join in and now their games are packed.

Why can't we get our players to do the same?
You have a Podcast. Invite some players on your Podcast and bring up the idea. You may want to find someone in a leadership position on the team like Zac or Cory and float the idea to them. Let them know of the impact it has had at Furman and see how receptive they are.
I don't have a podcast, I'm on a sports talk show in a market 3 hours from Boone.


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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by hapapp » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:21 am

Appster99 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:51 pm
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:59 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:22 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:17 pm
Appftw wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:53 pm


The D played well against Wake. It was the special teams and kicking mishaps that did us in.
Agreed, like the stupid off-sides penalty when our guy took a step forward before dropping back when Wake was punting that gave them a first down which led to a touchdown if I recall correctly.
I about lost my mind at that point. My wife had to calm me down since I sit up near the players’ parents section.
You want madness, watch this 4th and 2 play against Penn State. I've watched it 25 times and there is no reason app shouldn't have stopped this. Duck followed the man he was lined up on up the field a bit and then broke when McSorley threw the ball. The guy duck followed was covered underneath and over top by the outside guy. McSorley saw Duck playing underneath expecting to undercut the quick out but he threw it over top. Good throw by McSorley but Duck should've been on this man like white on rice.

A better play may have been man considering it was going to be a quick play. They stopped the verticals and it looked like the idea was to keep Penn State from scoring, not cover the distance to a first down.


4th and 2
I sit next to one of our best ILBs dad at games and he used to loose his sh!t when it was 3rd and really long and we would go nickle. Partly because his son got pulled off the field, but our DBs lined up so deep its like we forgot how to be aggressive. 3rd and 25 and we would give up 24. We usually stooped them, but a more aggressive approach (our regular scheme) would just as likely have stopped them 20 yards sooner giving us better field position. I understand the philosophy, don't get me wrong, but it freaks us out as fans.
We seemed more effective stopping third and 4 than we did third and 15. In our section, we joked that the opposition had us were they wanted us in third and more than 10.



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Unread post by diehardapp18 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:22 am

AppStFan1 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:52 pm
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Drink is going to bring us two things this year that we couldn't have under Satterfield: a Spring game and a P5 win.
I agree and believe that in a couple years from now folks will realize Satt was real conservative. He will be considered a good coach that we appreciate but folks will finally acknowledge that we could have been better under him.
Satterfield is a slightly better Ron Rivera. Ron RIvera is terrible at coaching. Satterfield was great at a lot of things, but his conservatism was really going to come back to bite us at some point.



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Re: Drink on Mac Attack

Unread post by ericsaid » Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:16 am

APPdiesel wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:18 am
ericsaid wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:56 pm
APPdiesel wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:08 pm
The Rock wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:07 pm
It seems like Drink is really making an effort to get out to a lot of the other sports’ outings as well. I know he has been to basketball games and I think he was at a wrestling match earlier this week.
Good to see him supporting other sports and getting out in the community too.
I live in Greenville, SC (Furman country). Furman's football and lacrosse teams have made it a priority over the last 3 seasons to be at every single men's and women's basketball games. Prior to this Furman basketball had no atmosphere. The players go, have fun, get loud, do chants and cheers, and the fans love it. Football players asked their social media followers to come to games. Students started coming to join in and now their games are packed.

Why can't we get our players to do the same?
You have a Podcast. Invite some players on your Podcast and bring up the idea. You may want to find someone in a leadership position on the team like Zac or Cory and float the idea to them. Let them know of the impact it has had at Furman and see how receptive they are.
I don't have a podcast, I'm on a sports talk show in a market 3 hours from Boone.
Is the market in NC? Obviously the odds of you reaching students is low but getting players on, communicating that to the student paper, and having the student paper spread the word could be done. We live in an infinitely connected world now where 3 hours might as well be 3 minutes.



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