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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:27 am

UNC Charlotte's football program is on the up and up. They will be a power to be reckoned with on the field and in recruiting in the Charlotte market.

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Unread post by diehardapp18 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:02 am

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:27 am
UNC Charlotte's football program is on the up and up. They will be a power to be reckoned with on the field and in recruiting in the Charlotte market.
No they won’t

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Unread post by bardenc » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:20 am

McLeansvilleAppFan wrote:
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Players touching a sign shaped like the state that says "Today I Give My All..." (TIGMA) actually came from the Tennessee football program
Is that an opinion or a statement of fact?
Opinion, until proven with facts...
Rumor has it Coach Dale Jones inspired the App version in the mid-90s, reminiscent of his time at Tennessee.

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Unread post by StatesboroBluesman » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:22 am

Gonzo wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:30 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:14 am
T-Dog wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:01 am
The whole "sandpaper their asses" line was fun and awesome, but I don't want it to become any kind of slogan going forward as it'll become cringe worthy.
Agree 1,000%. We're better than that and it's also too much like the low-class, tacky GATA thing Ga Southern has. Looks like we're trying to copy them on something.
GATA was actually something started by the early/mid 90's App team and was stolen by Georgia Southern when they rekindled the rivalry. I have had more than one former player explain that to me.
The drainage ditch dunk is the only GaSo tradition I've ever heard of that isn't stolen from another program. From their uniforms to their mascot, GaSo might be the most generic football team in America.
Sources? Erk brought GATA to Southern in the early 80s when he left UGA to start the program. That’s a FACT. Uniforms and school busses are a hat tip to our days when we didn’t have two pennies to rub and even had to use tape for the stripes on our helmet and the county donated the busses. Also, we have had a raptor rehabilitation center on campus for years so why not let a Bald Eagle that wouldn’t survive in the wild stretch his wings on Saturday some? Other programs may have live mascots as well and less dressed up uni’s like we do but I would say our traditions came about organically.

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Unread post by AppSt12 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:24 am

Unpopular opinions to trigger young and old alike:

1. We should have a marketing task force similar to NBA and MLS teams who help build attendance (call former season ticket holders, better deals for season tickets, increase student yosef club and fraternity involvement). We need to average 30k per game.

2. White Block A on black helmets 10 of 12 games. Branding matters, we arnt oregon. You wont see Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame change it up. Branding is sooooo important.

3. Talking about Ice and concession food is weak. Who eats that much? It's about the game.

4. Trophy room should be open to all fans, not the privileged. Some our fans dont know how historically amazing we are. Showcasing that grows Pride in more people.

5. Band on the east side.

6. Stop wishing for a regional conference with ODU, ECU, Charlotte, ect. Think bigger, yet enjoy where we are for now.

7. Host an annual meeting where we educate App State fans on recruiting rankings. They dont know the formulas and it gets so old hearing the confusion every year.

8. Take better care of older fans. Boone and KBS is tough to navigate. Have people hired to escort older or disabled fans. We want them there too.

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Unread post by StatesboroBluesman » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:41 am

Gonzo wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:30 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:14 am
T-Dog wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:01 am
The whole "sandpaper their asses" line was fun and awesome, but I don't want it to become any kind of slogan going forward as it'll become cringe worthy.
Agree 1,000%. We're better than that and it's also too much like the low-class, tacky GATA thing Ga Southern has. Looks like we're trying to copy them on something.
GATA was actually something started by the early/mid 90's App team and was stolen by Georgia Southern when they rekindled the rivalry. I have had more than one former player explain that to me.
The drainage ditch dunk is the only GaSo tradition I've ever heard of that isn't stolen from another program. From their uniforms to their mascot, GaSo might be the most generic football team in America.
Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.

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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:56 am

The concourse area of Kid Brewer is well designed and the concession layout could not be any more efficiently planned. Also, the hot chocolate is amazing!

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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:58 am

StatesboroBluesman wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:41 am
Gonzo wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:30 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:14 am
T-Dog wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:01 am
The whole "sandpaper their asses" line was fun and awesome, but I don't want it to become any kind of slogan going forward as it'll become cringe worthy.
Agree 1,000%. We're better than that and it's also too much like the low-class, tacky GATA thing Ga Southern has. Looks like we're trying to copy them on something.
GATA was actually something started by the early/mid 90's App team and was stolen by Georgia Southern when they rekindled the rivalry. I have had more than one former player explain that to me.
The drainage ditch dunk is the only GaSo tradition I've ever heard of that isn't stolen from another program. From their uniforms to their mascot, GaSo might be the most generic football team in America.
Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.
"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."

"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."

I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen

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Unread post by NashvilleNeer » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:15 am

CLTneers wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:55 pm
NashvilleNeer wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 1:31 pm
I don't know if it's unpopular by this board, but these are unpopular with a few of my friends:
- I hate the gold pants & helmets (actually more yellow than gold)
- I've never enjoyed sitting on the hill. Sorry, but i don't like grass stains or mud stains on my pants.
- Taylor Lamb was average and held us back from winning more games.
- The Yosef logo should be used less.
Definitely agree with ya on the hill, but sounds like they are going to improve upon it a lot in the off-season (hopefully they do bc that's where I'll be sitting in 2020 :lol: )
What are they going to do and is this for sure going to happen this offseason? I feel like the hill can be utilized so much better, kind of like Missouri hill (hate to say it) where it's closer to the field and raised up a bit and goes blends in smoothly with the rest of the stadium. Clemson as well does a solid job with their hill. SMU as well. Other than getting stuck to stand or sit over there when it's rainy and muddy, which isn't ideal, it just felt too far away from the action. I was never a fan of it.
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Unread post by Chaz » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:15 am

Here's one I'm sure will go over well:

I'm absolutely sick of hearing about the Michigan game.

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Unread post by CLTneers » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:20 am

Definitely agree with ya on the hill, but sounds like they are going to improve upon it a lot in the off-season (hopefully they do bc that's where I'll be sitting in 2020 :lol: )
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What are they going to do and is this for sure going to happen this offseason? I feel like the hill can be utilized so much better, kind of like Missouri hill (hate to say it) where it's closer to the field and raised up a bit and goes blends in smoothly with the rest of the stadium. Clemson as well does a solid job with their hill. SMU as well. Other than getting stuck to stand or sit over there when it's rainy and muddy, which isn't ideal, it just felt too far away from the action. I was never a fan of it.
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From what DG has been saying: it will be closer to the field (unsure by how much, but at least to the black 9-square box), will make the grade less steep so it is easier to maneuver (and safer), and they are going to expand the walkway behind the scoreboard.

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Unread post by Yosef84 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:24 am

Chaz wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:15 am
Here's one I'm sure will go over well:

I'm absolutely sick of hearing about the Michigan game.
I'm actually in agreement with this one. I love the memory of the Michigan game, but I have gotten to the point that I cringe every time they mention it during a game, especially when it's part of the opening introduction of the team. Saying "this is the team that beat Michigan" just isn't accurate anymore. With all due respect, the oldest player on our current roster was probably about 10 when that game was played. We've accomplished a lot since then and I'd like to have more emphasis on our FBS accomplishments. The Michigan game is great for historical retrospectives, but we need to let it rest.

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Unread post by CLTneers » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:25 am

AppSt12 wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:24 am
Unpopular opinions to trigger young and old alike:

1. We should have a marketing task force similar to NBA and MLS teams who help build attendance (call former season ticket holders, better deals for season tickets, increase student yosef club and fraternity involvement). We need to average 30k per game.

2. White Block A on black helmets 10 of 12 games. Branding matters, we arnt oregon. You wont see Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame change it up. Branding is sooooo important.

3. Talking about Ice and concession food is weak. Who eats that much? It's about the game.

4. Trophy room should be open to all fans, not the privileged. Some our fans dont know how historically amazing we are. Showcasing that grows Pride in more people.

5. Band on the east side.

6. Stop wishing for a regional conference with ODU, ECU, Charlotte, ect. Think bigger, yet enjoy where we are for now.

7. Host an annual meeting where we educate App State fans on recruiting rankings. They dont know the formulas and it gets so old hearing the confusion every year.

8. Take better care of older fans. Boone and KBS is tough to navigate. Have people hired to escort older or disabled fans. We want them there too.
We also need a class for students (could also add some videos for fans that are no longer students) on App State sports tradition (mostly football). Almost every home game this year you heard "APP. STATE." chant while we were on offense, so annoying.

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Unread post by StatesboroBluesman » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:37 am

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:58 am
StatesboroBluesman wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:41 am
Gonzo wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:30 pm
Rick83 wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:14 am

Agree 1,000%. We're better than that and it's also too much like the low-class, tacky GATA thing Ga Southern has. Looks like we're trying to copy them on something.
GATA was actually something started by the early/mid 90's App team and was stolen by Georgia Southern when they rekindled the rivalry. I have had more than one former player explain that to me.
The drainage ditch dunk is the only GaSo tradition I've ever heard of that isn't stolen from another program. From their uniforms to their mascot, GaSo might be the most generic football team in America.
Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.
"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."

"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."

I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen
Think I’m alright here pal

Organically: used in this sense of the word means to come about naturally and not by force

Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means.

Exactly where did I miss on these terms sir/m’am?

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Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:55 am

AppSt12 wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:24 am

2. White Block A on black helmets 10 of 12 games. Branding matters, we arnt oregon. You wont see Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame change it up. Branding is sooooo important.
Lots of good bad takes here, but this is my favorite. Branding DOES matter - and the brand we’ve worn for our entire FBS existence is the black A.

Also the implication that while we aren’t Oregon, we’re somehow more comparable to Clemson, Notre Dame and Bama.

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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:56 am

StatesboroBluesman wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:37 am
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:58 am
StatesboroBluesman wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:41 am
Gonzo wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 pm
appstatealum wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:30 pm

GATA was actually something started by the early/mid 90's App team and was stolen by Georgia Southern when they rekindled the rivalry. I have had more than one former player explain that to me.
The drainage ditch dunk is the only GaSo tradition I've ever heard of that isn't stolen from another program. From their uniforms to their mascot, GaSo might be the most generic football team in America.
Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.
"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."

"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."

I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen
Think I’m alright here pal

Organically: used in this sense of the word means to come about naturally and not by force

Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means.

Exactly where did I miss on these terms sir/m’am?
You said it came about organically, PAL, then said it was taken from UGA. That is not organic, organic would be if it were created at Georgia Southern. Pretty simple to understand if you ask me, PAL. Regardless, whether it was taken from UGA or App, it was taken from someone you have serious envy towards. You're welcome.

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Unread post by Chaz » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:07 am

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:56 am
StatesboroBluesman wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:37 am
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:58 am
StatesboroBluesman wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:41 am
Gonzo wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:32 pm


The drainage ditch dunk is the only GaSo tradition I've ever heard of that isn't stolen from another program. From their uniforms to their mascot, GaSo might be the most generic football team in America.
Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.
"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."

"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."

I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen
Think I’m alright here pal

Organically: used in this sense of the word means to come about naturally and not by force

Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means.

Exactly where did I miss on these terms sir/m’am?
You said it came about organically, PAL, then said it was taken from UGA. That is not organic, organic would be if it were created at Georgia Southern. Pretty simple to understand if you ask me, PAL. Regardless, whether it was taken from UGA or App, it was taken from someone you have serious envy towards. You're welcome.
The justification he used to argue it wasn't stolen was that it wasn't done illegally. Wow.

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Unread post by StatesboroBluesman » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:18 am

I never said it was taken from UGA. I said Erk brought it with him from UGA. He came up with it by rearranging GTAA during the GT vs UGA game one year. GTAA stood for Georgia tech athletic association and he switched them around and told everyone it stood for Get after Their Asses. Given that he was the one that created it and started our program and used it as a team mantra before we ever played a game I would hardly say it’s stolen.

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Unread post by StatesboroBluesman » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:22 am

Chaz wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:07 am
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:56 am
StatesboroBluesman wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:37 am
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:58 am
StatesboroBluesman wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:41 am


Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”. GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days. Way back in the early 80s...not mid 90s. Our School busses and uniforms were a result of not having two pennies to rub against each other (athletic tape had to be used to add a white line to the helmets and the busses had to be donated by bullock county for a dollar each). We have a raptor rehabilitation center on campus with several bald eagles that would not survive in the wild...why not let one of them stretch their wings? Some things may be similar but stolen is not true, they came about organically if not by necessity, and we have decided not to veer far from our roots.
"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."

"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."

I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen
Think I’m alright here pal

Organically: used in this sense of the word means to come about naturally and not by force

Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means.

Exactly where did I miss on these terms sir/m’am?
You said it came about organically, PAL, then said it was taken from UGA. That is not organic, organic would be if it were created at Georgia Southern. Pretty simple to understand if you ask me, PAL. Regardless, whether it was taken from UGA or App, it was taken from someone you have serious envy towards. You're welcome.
The justification he used to argue it wasn't stolen was that it wasn't done illegally. Wow.
Please outline clearly where is said that. Wow

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Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:35 am

StatesboroBluesman wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:22 am
Chaz wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:07 am
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:56 am
StatesboroBluesman wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:37 am
NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:58 am


"Our traditions came about organically and were not “stolen”."

"GATA with out a doubt was brought to Statesboro by Erk Russell from his UGA days."

I don't think you understand the meaning of organically and stolen
Think I’m alright here pal

Organically: used in this sense of the word means to come about naturally and not by force

Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means.

Exactly where did I miss on these terms sir/m’am?
You said it came about organically, PAL, then said it was taken from UGA. That is not organic, organic would be if it were created at Georgia Southern. Pretty simple to understand if you ask me, PAL. Regardless, whether it was taken from UGA or App, it was taken from someone you have serious envy towards. You're welcome.
The justification he used to argue it wasn't stolen was that it wasn't done illegally. Wow.
Please outline clearly where is said that. Wow
"Stolen: something taken into possession via illegal means."

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