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What about Mayfield isn't likeable? Dude went from Walk-on to Heisman Trophy winner and first overall pick. He then proceeds to break Payton Manning's rookie record for touchdown passes.The Rock wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:11 pmhttps://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/25-mos ... ssion=true
While I think ZT is a much more humble and likeable person, it’s a good mention and says he has draftable arm talent.
He’s cocky, arrogant, walked the side lines grabbing his crotch, tried to run from the cops while drunk, stared down a former coach during a game...ericsaid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:16 pmWhat about Mayfield isn't likeable? Dude went from Walk-on to Heisman Trophy winner and first overall pick. He then proceeds to break Payton Manning's rookie record for touchdown passes.The Rock wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:11 pmhttps://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/25-mos ... ssion=true
While I think ZT is a much more humble and likeable person, it’s a good mention and says he has draftable arm talent.
But he backs all of it up. I would dislike him if his confidence was unfounded but that's his edge. He's 6 feet tall, a walk-on at two schools, Heisman trophy winner, and broke a NFL record his rookie season. If I'm a Browns fan, grab your crotch, butt, tongue, I don't care.The Rock wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:54 pmHe’s cocky, arrogant, walked the side lines grabbing his crotch, tried to run from the cops while drunk, stared down a former coach during a game...ericsaid wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:16 pmWhat about Mayfield isn't likeable? Dude went from Walk-on to Heisman Trophy winner and first overall pick. He then proceeds to break Payton Manning's rookie record for touchdown passes.The Rock wrote: ↑Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:11 pmhttps://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/25-mos ... ssion=true
While I think ZT is a much more humble and likeable person, it’s a good mention and says he has draftable arm talent.
There are many great athletes who do not appreciate their ability and what it could afford them in life. I dont get the impression that Zac will ever display that sense of entitlement, shown through arrogance or lack of respect for others or the law. Athletic ability is a fleeting gift. Appreciate it while you have it and make the most of it. But use the attention it gives you to contribute to society in a positive way. That is the difference to me in Zac Thomas and Corey Sutton. Your actions affect your team, your university, and most importantly your family. That is what makes Zac Thomas special.
Making a whole lot of judgements about Sutton based on one incident with a substance that's legal in almost half of the country. Corey has represented himself and App very well off the field in every other circumstance, and plays extremely hard on the field too. No reason to throw one Mountaineer under the bus to lift up another.Appster99 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:44 amThere are many great athletes who do not appreciate their ability and what it could afford them in life. I dont get the impression that Zac will ever display that sense of entitlement, shown through arrogance or lack of respect for others or the law. Athletic ability is a fleeting gift. Appreciate it while you have it and make the most of it. But use the attention it gives you to contribute to society in a positive way. That is the difference to me in Zac Thomas and Corey Sutton. Your actions affect your team, your university, and most importantly your family. That is what makes Zac Thomas special.
I respect and understand your point about throwing one Mountaineer under the bus to lift up another. Yes, in hindsight I could have chosen a better example. However, I dont buy your "legal in almost half the country" defense. I am all for the legalization of pot, but the fact is it is not legal in North Carolina. He broke the law. Period. As a tax payer and Proud Yosef Club member I hold student athletes, whose scholarships are provided in part by my hard earned dollars, to a higher standard. My wish for Corey is that he learns from this incident and changes his behavior. I truly wish him well...if he gets his head right. His action affect a lot of people, not just him.BurlingtonApp wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:10 amMaking a whole lot of judgements about Sutton based on one incident with a substance that's legal in almost half of the country. Corey has represented himself and App very well off the field in every other circumstance, and plays extremely hard on the field too. No reason to throw one Mountaineer under the bus to lift up another.Appster99 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:44 amThere are many great athletes who do not appreciate their ability and what it could afford them in life. I dont get the impression that Zac will ever display that sense of entitlement, shown through arrogance or lack of respect for others or the law. Athletic ability is a fleeting gift. Appreciate it while you have it and make the most of it. But use the attention it gives you to contribute to society in a positive way. That is the difference to me in Zac Thomas and Corey Sutton. Your actions affect your team, your university, and most importantly your family. That is what makes Zac Thomas special.
If I'd been arrested for every law I broke while a college student, I'd be serving a life sentence.
Our region has long had a history of growing/making/consuming drugs that were illegal at times.Appster99 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:31 amI respect and understand your point about throwing one Mountaineer under the bus to lift up another. Yes, in hindsight I could have chosen a better example. However, I dont buy your "legal in almost half the country" defense. I am all for the legalization of pot, but the fact is it is not legal in North Carolina. He broke the law. Period. As a tax payer and Proud Yosef Club member I hold student athletes, whose scholarships are provided in part by my hard earned dollars, to a higher standard. My wish for Corey is that he learns from this incident and changes his behavior. I truly wish him well...if he gets his head right. His action affect a lot of people, not just him.BurlingtonApp wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:10 amMaking a whole lot of judgements about Sutton based on one incident with a substance that's legal in almost half of the country. Corey has represented himself and App very well off the field in every other circumstance, and plays extremely hard on the field too. No reason to throw one Mountaineer under the bus to lift up another.Appster99 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2019 8:44 amThere are many great athletes who do not appreciate their ability and what it could afford them in life. I dont get the impression that Zac will ever display that sense of entitlement, shown through arrogance or lack of respect for others or the law. Athletic ability is a fleeting gift. Appreciate it while you have it and make the most of it. But use the attention it gives you to contribute to society in a positive way. That is the difference to me in Zac Thomas and Corey Sutton. Your actions affect your team, your university, and most importantly your family. That is what makes Zac Thomas special.
Dayum, did you kill someone?NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:42 amIf I'd been arrested for every law I broke while a college student, I'd be serving a life sentence.
Thankfully I am not a College Athlete with a Full Scholarship, nor do I have teammates who depend on me to do my job and not be a distraction to a new coaching staff. But if I were in that situation, I would like to think I would act in a manner that respected the gifts I was given. For the love of pete, if you are going to smoke weed do it in the privacy of your home and not in your car in case you get stopped.
Appster99 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:35 pmThankfully I am not a College Athlete with a Full Scholarship, nor do I have teammates who depend on me to do my job and not be a distraction to a new coaching staff. But if I were in that situation, I would like to think I would act in a manner that respected the gifts I was given. For the love of pete, if you are going to smoke weed do it in the privacy of your home and not in your car in case you get stopped.
Sure. It's not the best move. Pot is illegal--whether or not we think it should be. But your comments about Zac, for which you selected Corey as the counter-example, are below:Appster99 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:35 pmThankfully I am not a College Athlete with a Full Scholarship, nor do I have teammates who depend on me to do my job and not be a distraction to a new coaching staff. But if I were in that situation, I would like to think I would act in a manner that respected the gifts I was given. For the love of pete, if you are going to smoke weed do it in the privacy of your home and not in your car in case you get stopped.
Corey may have broken the law. But I don't think that means he has a sense of entitlement, that he is arrogant, that he lacks respect for others, that he doesn't appreciate his gifts, or that he isn't contributing to society in a positive way.I dont get the impression that Zac will ever display that sense of entitlement, shown through arrogance or lack of respect for others or the law. Athletic ability is a fleeting gift. Appreciate it while you have it and make the most of it. But use the attention it gives you to contribute to society in a positive way.
Black Saturday wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:02 pmDayum, did you kill someone?NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:42 amIf I'd been arrested for every law I broke while a college student, I'd be serving a life sentence.
Not for the extent of the crimes, but for the number of them, all minor. "sentences to run consecutively"NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:13 pmBlack Saturday wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:02 pmDayum, did you kill someone?NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:42 amIf I'd been arrested for every law I broke while a college student, I'd be serving a life sentence.