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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:14 pm

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Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:25 am
Is this the same crowd that was worried about ETSU? Coastal may be better, but they aren't going to beat us.
They are better and I agree they are not as talented as us but there is not a game we can't lose. We can't be like Michigan. Don't disrespect any opponent.

The goal this week is to go 1-0 in the SBC and overall. Nothing matters for the next 5 days besides the fact we have to beat Coastal Carolina.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by PhillyApp » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Anyone have a scouting report or insights into Coastal? I haven’t seen them play and haven’t heard much about schemes with the new staff there, so I’m curious what they’ve been doing that’s made such an impact in their first few games.
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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by Rekdiver » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:23 pm

They sling the ball all over the field. Good receivers.....prone to interceptions but that doesnt stop them

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by Rick83 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:24 pm

Didn't someone say they go for it a lot on 4th downs?

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:29 pm

Rick83 wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:24 pm
Didn't someone say they go for it a lot on 4th downs?
Yes. They are 8 for 8. We have to be focused on this part especially. The fact they are so good on 4th down does scare me a little.

https://sunbeltsports_ftp.sidearmsports.com/custompages/fbstats/2019/ccu.htm

I feel confident we will have 1-2 INTs but still don't want to overlook them.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by PhillyApp » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:07 pm

Are they quick hit throws or longer developing plays? Curious if Roof decides to attack the QB or play coverage.
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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by hapapp » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:11 pm

Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:25 am
Is this the same crowd that was worried about ETSU? Coastal may be better, but they aren't going to beat us.
Fair point, but no games had been played yet. There is a body of work for Coastal and it is pretty decent. One can quibble with the quality of competition but nonetheless their defense is nationally ranked in several categories. It has the makings of a competitive game. I like our chances obviously, but I don't anticipate a pushover.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by hapapp » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:15 pm

Rekdiver wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:23 pm
They sling the ball all over the field. Good receivers.....prone to interceptions but that doesnt stop them
They run the ball 60% of the time and have a solid RB. The QB has thrown 5 INTs but he threw four in game one. He has only one in the last three games.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by Black Saturday » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:27 pm

hapapp wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:11 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:25 am
Is this the same crowd that was worried about ETSU? Coastal may be better, but they aren't going to beat us.
Fair point, but no games had been played yet. There is a body of work for Coastal and it is pretty decent. One can quibble with the quality of competition but nonetheless their defense is nationally ranked in several categories. It has the makings of a competitive game. I like our chances obviously, but I don't anticipate a pushover.
No problem agreeing that The SunBelt is improved just by seeing the outcome of the schedule played each week. Haven't seen any rankings, but I'd say APPs defensive rank isn't very flattering, but is taking on its personality by being very opportunistic thus far, which has had an influence in the wins.
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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:49 pm

My question is, how can we ever get ranked if we keep being 1-0?

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by Trock44 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:57 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:49 pm
My question is, how can we ever get ranked if we keep being 1-0?
1-0 mentality every week. Who cares if we are ranked, because none of it matters if we don’t have the results at the end of the season.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by AppAlum1 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:14 pm

NattyBumppo'sRevenge wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:49 pm
My question is, how can we ever get ranked if we keep being 1-0?
Just beat who they set in front of you.

If we do, we will be fine.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by ericsaid » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:16 pm

Rekdiver wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:23 pm
They sling the ball all over the field. Good receivers.....prone to interceptions but that doesnt stop them
They are a run first team out of some wonky version of the veer, similar to Georgia Southern's shotgun spread option they ran with Fritz. It really is unique to Coastal. Their primary choice would be to run the ball 50 times a game and only throw 10 to 15 times, ala Scott Satterfield when Sun Belt play came around.

They want to run the ball and stop the run. They want to force a team to beat them passing and gas the opposing defense by lengthening the game for that side of the ball. Look at what they did to Kansas, holding them to 7 points the week before Kansas went and dropped a 50 burger on Boston College (who isn't about average to slightly less than average for the ACC these days). By all accounts, their defense is finally catching up to where their offense has been since moving to FBS, thanks in large part to their defensive line play. The trench game when moving from the Big South to the Sun Belt was a much bigger leap than it was for App or Southern and it showed. Last year they finished 5-7, losing a game they had no business losing in Mobile 31-28.

This is Year 3 for them and they are now only 3 wins from getting to that magical 6 for the first time. They had their WTF game against EMU and have been improving every since. They lost to EMU by 7 in a game that they were down by 3 with 8 minutes left. They gave up a big 3rd quarter forcing them to abandon the run and begin throwing, resulting in 43 pass attempts and 4 interceptions. Against Kansas you saw them get back to where they want to be, running the ball, only throwing for 98 yards. Then against Norfolk State they throw for 65 and against UMass they saw an opportunity to tinker with the offense and fine tune some things, throwing for 302 yards and rushing for 334 (against the worst team in FBS and a team that may actually lose to Norfolk State if they were to play).

Overall, Coastal is who they have been but with better execution thanks, in part, to their talent from their transition year coming into maturity, Chadwell being given the reigns of the program and getting buy in, and a culture change that needed to occur this off-season.

If fans aren't prepared for what could happen, let me warn you, this could look a lot like the Charlotte game in terms of it being closer, for longer, than we would like. Coastal could play UNC close and maybe win. They likely get to a bowl game this season in a situation where 4 out of 5 teams in the Sun Belt East could probably win the West. If Roof doesn't get input from Gasparato and Smith on how to play this option offense, we could be in for a long day. Look to Georgia Tech's performance against Georgia Southern in 2014 while they were running that shotgun spread option look under Fritz for comparison.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by ericsaid » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:17 pm

hapapp wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:11 pm
Black Saturday wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:25 am
Is this the same crowd that was worried about ETSU? Coastal may be better, but they aren't going to beat us.
Fair point, but no games had been played yet. There is a body of work for Coastal and it is pretty decent. One can quibble with the quality of competition but nonetheless their defense is nationally ranked in several categories. It has the makings of a competitive game. I like our chances obviously, but I don't anticipate a pushover.
Every teams defense is nationally ranked....

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by yosef69 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:31 pm

Anything can happen, but I think the spread on this one is about right.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by AppRolls » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:42 pm

Agree that Coastal is improved but not convinced that they can match up with us for 60 minutes.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:45 pm

In looking at their offensive and defensive stats, this game is going to go along way in showing us how good Coastal is as a unit on both sides of the ball. There is no doubt that they can execute their schemes but what is interesting to me is how they have faired against the talent level. The goal is to win the game, and they beat Kansas but their offense struggled against them far moreso than with anyone else on their schedule. It will be interesting to see how/if we can slow them down.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by AppSt94 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:55 pm

I have to laugh at the comment above regarding Roof seeking input from Smith and Gas on how to defend this offense. I understand the reason for phrasing it this way but stop throwing shade. First, all coaches have input in the gameplan, week in and week out. Secondly, Roof has been doing this for over three decades and has seen just about everything. I'm sure their opinions will be sought but I doubt Roof needs to be taken to school. Come on man!

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by GoBoone » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:38 pm

Coastal can’t stop our offense. We win special teams and we walk out with a decisive W.

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Re: Coastal Carolina

Unread post by WASU 93 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:59 pm

GoBoone wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:38 pm
Coastal can’t stop our offense. We win special teams and we walk out with a decisive W.
I agree. Coastal is improved, but we won 23-7 last year and their only TD came off a three yard drive following a 60-yard interception return. ZT did not play and we ran a very conservative game plan with Huesman as the starter, in his first start.

If North Carolina couldn't stop our offense, Coastal will struggle as well. Plus, we gained a ton of defensive confidence last week.

Kansas is the best team they have played (96 in Sagarin). Eastern Michigan is 101. UMASS is 203 (20 places behind ETSU at 183) and Norfolk State is 235.

The letdown after Michigan means nothing. No one associated with the program then, is associated now and Armanti was injured for the Wofford game.

Sure, upsets happen and that's why they play the games on Saturday. But, if we play to our standards, we'll cover the 16/16.5 Spread.

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