Top 25 Watch (real thread)

[AppStFan1]

Memphis seems to be the school getting the hype in the AAC this year as their best team. App had one common opponent with them, ULM...App won 52-7, Memphis won 52-33

Can't go by transitive property but I do think the top 3 in the SBC are right with them. The AAC has more money and bigger stadiums but I think SBC coaches do a great job of recruiting and evaluating talent for what they should be getting.

[APP93]

Memphis seems to be the school getting the hype in the AAC this year as their best team. App had one common opponent with them, ULM...App won 52-7, Memphis won 52-33

Can't go by transitive property but I do think the top 3 in the SBC are right with them. The AAC has more money and bigger stadiums but I think SBC coaches do a great job of recruiting and evaluating talent for what they should be getting.

Not talking about transitive property, point is we all know that AAC top to bottom is much better conference than SB. But this year, in 2019, App would be right up their competing for a conference title in any G5 conference. Regardless of current ranking, Memphis is considered by many to be the best team in the AAC and the one with the inside track to NY6 game. But I would argue If App played them this year it would be a toss-up game. Fact of the matter is that the one common opponent between the two teams App beat by 45 (in Boone) and Memphis beat by 19 (at ULM). So does that mean App beats Memphis by 26 (45-19), of course that is not my point. But anyone suggesting App would have 2 or 3 losses in the AAC this year has not been paying attention.

[Mjohn1988]

Memphis seems to be the school getting the hype in the AAC this year as their best team. App had one common opponent with them, ULM...App won 52-7, Memphis won 52-33

Can't go by transitive property but I do think the top 3 in the SBC are right with them. The AAC has more money and bigger stadiums but I think SBC coaches do a great job of recruiting and evaluating talent for what they should be getting.

Not talking about transitive property, point is we all know that AAC top to bottom is much better conference than SB. But this year, in 2019, App would be right up their competing for a conference title in any G5 conference. Regardless of current ranking, Memphis is considered by many to be the best team in the AAC and the one with the inside track to NY6 game. But I would argue If App played them this year it would be a toss-up game. Fact of the matter is that the one common opponent between the two teams App beat by 45 (in Boone) and Memphis beat by 19 (at ULM). So does that mean App beats Memphis by 26 (45-19), of course that is not my point. But anyone suggesting App would have 2 or 3 losses in the AAC this year has not been paying attention.

I think our D would keep us in games agains Memphis or SMU. Odd thing to say considering how the season started.

[APP93]

I'm not sure this is the appropriate place to post this thought, but: I feel very confident in saying, if we're not in this week's CFP poll the NY6 dream is dead.

App will not be in the CFP top 25 this week and NY6 is not dead. Who gets the NY6 game under the following scenario?:

SBC: App st. wins conference with 12-1 record and 2 P5 wins
MWC: San Diego State beats Boise St. in MWC conference title game, finishes season 11-2
CUSA: La Tech loses 1 more game or does not win CUSA
AAC: The loser of the Memphis/Cincy regular season game returns the favor the following week in conference championship game. AAC conference champ is 11-2.

Under that scenario, App would have the best record out of all G5 conference champs. That would not guarantee a NY6 game, but they would have a strong argument...Beat GSU

[bigdaddyg]

I'm not sure this is the appropriate place to post this thought, but: I feel very confident in saying, if we're not in this week's CFP poll the NY6 dream is dead.

App will not be in the CFP top 25 this week and NY6 is not dead. Who gets the NY6 game under the following scenario?:

SBC: App st. wins conference with 12-1 record and 2 P5 wins
MWC: San Diego State beats Boise St. in MWC conference title game, finishes season 11-2
CUSA: La Tech loses 1 more game or does not win CUSA
AAC: The loser of the Memphis/Cincy regular season game returns the favor the following week in conference championship game. AAC conference champ is 11-2.

Under that scenario, App would have the best record out of all G5 conference champs. That would not guarantee a NY6 game, but they would have a strong argument...Beat GSU

The outcome of last Saturday night should keep us in the discussion. A lot has to happen but...

[appgrad95&97]

I'm not sure this is the appropriate place to post this thought, but: I feel very confident in saying, if we're not in this week's CFP poll the NY6 dream is dead.

App will not be in the CFP top 25 this week and NY6 is not dead. Who gets the NY6 game under the following scenario?:

SBC: App st. wins conference with 12-1 record and 2 P5 wins
MWC: San Diego State beats Boise St. in MWC conference title game, finishes season 11-2
CUSA: La Tech loses 1 more game or does not win CUSA
AAC: The loser of the Memphis/Cincy regular season game returns the favor the following week in conference championship game. AAC conference champ is 11-2.

Under that scenario, App would have the best record out of all G5 conference champs. That would not guarantee a NY6 game, but they would have a strong argument...Beat GSU

Ummm, no one. There would be no G5 rep in the NY6.

[Mjohn1988]

I'm not sure this is the appropriate place to post this thought, but: I feel very confident in saying, if we're not in this week's CFP poll the NY6 dream is dead.

App will not be in the CFP top 25 this week and NY6 is not dead. Who gets the NY6 game under the following scenario?:

SBC: App st. wins conference with 12-1 record and 2 P5 wins
MWC: San Diego State beats Boise St. in MWC conference title game, finishes season 11-2
CUSA: La Tech loses 1 more game or does not win CUSA
AAC: The loser of the Memphis/Cincy regular season game returns the favor the following week in conference championship game. AAC conference champ is 11-2.

Under that scenario, App would have the best record out of all G5 conference champs. That would not guarantee a NY6 game, but they would have a strong argument...Beat GSU

Ummm, no one. There would be no G5 rep in the NY6.

There will be a G5 team in the cotton bowl. That much is a done deal.

[appgrad95&97]

I'm not sure this is the appropriate place to post this thought, but: I feel very confident in saying, if we're not in this week's CFP poll the NY6 dream is dead.

App will not be in the CFP top 25 this week and NY6 is not dead. Who gets the NY6 game under the following scenario?:

SBC: App st. wins conference with 12-1 record and 2 P5 wins
MWC: San Diego State beats Boise St. in MWC conference title game, finishes season 11-2
CUSA: La Tech loses 1 more game or does not win CUSA
AAC: The loser of the Memphis/Cincy regular season game returns the favor the following week in conference championship game. AAC conference champ is 11-2.

Under that scenario, App would have the best record out of all G5 conference champs. That would not guarantee a NY6 game, but they would have a strong argument...Beat GSU

Ummm, no one. There would be no G5 rep in the NY6.

There will be a G5 team in the cotton bowl. That much is a done deal.

What if there is not a G5 conference champion ranked in the CFP?

[EastHallApp]

I'm not sure this is the appropriate place to post this thought, but: I feel very confident in saying, if we're not in this week's CFP poll the NY6 dream is dead.

App will not be in the CFP top 25 this week and NY6 is not dead. Who gets the NY6 game under the following scenario?:

SBC: App st. wins conference with 12-1 record and 2 P5 wins
MWC: San Diego State beats Boise St. in MWC conference title game, finishes season 11-2
CUSA: La Tech loses 1 more game or does not win CUSA
AAC: The loser of the Memphis/Cincy regular season game returns the favor the following week in conference championship game. AAC conference champ is 11-2.

Under that scenario, App would have the best record out of all G5 conference champs. That would not guarantee a NY6 game, but they would have a strong argument...Beat GSU

Ummm, no one. There would be no G5 rep in the NY6.

There will be a G5 team in the cotton bowl. That much is a done deal.

What if there is not a G5 conference champion ranked in the CFP?

It's an automatic bid whether there's anyone in the top 25 or not. I guess they'd just deem whichever team they thought best to be the highest "ranked" even though they wouldn't technically be ranked.

Also in that scenario, I think it's likely both App and the AAC winner would be in the top 25.

[appgrad95&97]

App will not be in the CFP top 25 this week and NY6 is not dead. Who gets the NY6 game under the following scenario?:

SBC: App st. wins conference with 12-1 record and 2 P5 wins
MWC: San Diego State beats Boise St. in MWC conference title game, finishes season 11-2
CUSA: La Tech loses 1 more game or does not win CUSA
AAC: The loser of the Memphis/Cincy regular season game returns the favor the following week in conference championship game. AAC conference champ is 11-2.

Under that scenario, App would have the best record out of all G5 conference champs. That would not guarantee a NY6 game, but they would have a strong argument...Beat GSU

Ummm, no one. There would be no G5 rep in the NY6.

There will be a G5 team in the cotton bowl. That much is a done deal.

What if there is not a G5 conference champion ranked in the CFP?

It's an automatic bid whether there's anyone in the top 25 or not. I guess they'd just deem whichever team they thought best to be the highest "ranked" even though they wouldn't technically be ranked.

Also in that scenario, I think it's likely both App and the AAC winner would be in the top 25.

The rules for the access bowl spot are pretty clear: highest ranked G5 conference champion. I know a bunch of y'all think you can be "ranked" 26...

[EastHallApp]

Ummm, no one. There would be no G5 rep in the NY6.

There will be a G5 team in the cotton bowl. That much is a done deal.

What if there is not a G5 conference champion ranked in the CFP?

It's an automatic bid whether there's anyone in the top 25 or not. I guess they'd just deem whichever team they thought best to be the highest "ranked" even though they wouldn't technically be ranked.

Also in that scenario, I think it's likely both App and the AAC winner would be in the top 25.

The rules for the access bowl spot are pretty clear: highest ranked G5 conference champion. I know a bunch of y'all think you can be "ranked" 26...

This isn't about the semantics of the word "ranked." It's about the fact that the G5 bid is guaranteed. It seems you do not believe that point, but it is true nonetheless.

[appgrad95&97]

There will be a G5 team in the cotton bowl. That much is a done deal.

What if there is not a G5 conference champion ranked in the CFP?

It's an automatic bid whether there's anyone in the top 25 or not. I guess they'd just deem whichever team they thought best to be the highest "ranked" even though they wouldn't technically be ranked.

Also in that scenario, I think it's likely both App and the AAC winner would be in the top 25.

The rules for the access bowl spot are pretty clear: highest ranked G5 conference champion. I know a bunch of y'all think you can be "ranked" 26...

This isn't about the semantics of the word "ranked." It's about the fact that the G5 bid is guaranteed. It seems you do not believe that point, but it is true nonetheless.

You're right, I don't believe that at all. It is highest ranked G5 conference champion. That is not semantics. That is the rule. Now if we are in the CFP top 25 tomorrow, the dream lives. I personally am looking forward to a game in NOLA v. a very good LA Tech.

[EastHallApp]

What if there is not a G5 conference champion ranked in the CFP?

It's an automatic bid whether there's anyone in the top 25 or not. I guess they'd just deem whichever team they thought best to be the highest "ranked" even though they wouldn't technically be ranked.

Also in that scenario, I think it's likely both App and the AAC winner would be in the top 25.

The rules for the access bowl spot are pretty clear: highest ranked G5 conference champion. I know a bunch of y'all think you can be "ranked" 26...

This isn't about the semantics of the word "ranked." It's about the fact that the G5 bid is guaranteed. It seems you do not believe that point, but it is true nonetheless.

You're right, I don't believe that at all. It is highest ranked G5 conference champion. That is not semantics. That is the rule. Now if we are in the CFP top 25 tomorrow, the dream lives. I personally am looking forward to a game in NOLA v. a very good LA Tech.

"The previous format mandated a minimum threshold for non-AQ teams: top 12, or in some circumstances, top 16. So what happens if the selection committee ranks its top 20 teams and there's no Group of Five member to be found?

'Keep ranking,' said BCS executive director Bill Hancock."

https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... -six-bowls

[appgrad95&97]

It's an automatic bid whether there's anyone in the top 25 or not. I guess they'd just deem whichever team they thought best to be the highest "ranked" even though they wouldn't technically be ranked.

Also in that scenario, I think it's likely both App and the AAC winner would be in the top 25.

The rules for the access bowl spot are pretty clear: highest ranked G5 conference champion. I know a bunch of y'all think you can be "ranked" 26...

This isn't about the semantics of the word "ranked." It's about the fact that the G5 bid is guaranteed. It seems you do not believe that point, but it is true nonetheless.

You're right, I don't believe that at all. It is highest ranked G5 conference champion. That is not semantics. That is the rule. Now if we are in the CFP top 25 tomorrow, the dream lives. I personally am looking forward to a game in NOLA v. a very good LA Tech.

"The previous format mandated a minimum threshold for non-AQ teams: top 12, or in some circumstances, top 16. So what happens if the selection committee ranks its top 20 teams and there's no Group of Five member to be found?

'Keep ranking,' said BCS executive director Bill Hancock."

https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... -six-bowls

I literally laughed out loud when you referenced an article so old the Big East still existed. #keephopealive #iguess #seeyainnoaifallgoeswell #...

[EastHallApp]

The rules for the access bowl spot are pretty clear: highest ranked G5 conference champion. I know a bunch of y'all think you can be "ranked" 26...

This isn't about the semantics of the word "ranked." It's about the fact that the G5 bid is guaranteed. It seems you do not believe that point, but it is true nonetheless.

You're right, I don't believe that at all. It is highest ranked G5 conference champion. That is not semantics. That is the rule. Now if we are in the CFP top 25 tomorrow, the dream lives. I personally am looking forward to a game in NOLA v. a very good LA Tech.

"The previous format mandated a minimum threshold for non-AQ teams: top 12, or in some circumstances, top 16. So what happens if the selection committee ranks its top 20 teams and there's no Group of Five member to be found?

'Keep ranking,' said BCS executive director Bill Hancock."

https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... -six-bowls

I literally laughed out loud when you referenced an article so old the Big East still existed. #keephopealive #iguess #seeyainnoaifallgoeswell #...

It's literally an article about the formation of the CFP. Feel free to cite anything supporting your claim that a G5 bid is NOT guaranteed.

I know it's tough to admit you're wrong when you've doubled down over and over and been super-condescending. But you're wrong.

[appgrad95&97]

This isn't about the semantics of the word "ranked." It's about the fact that the G5 bid is guaranteed. It seems you do not believe that point, but it is true nonetheless.

You're right, I don't believe that at all. It is highest ranked G5 conference champion. That is not semantics. That is the rule. Now if we are in the CFP top 25 tomorrow, the dream lives. I personally am looking forward to a game in NOLA v. a very good LA Tech.

"The previous format mandated a minimum threshold for non-AQ teams: top 12, or in some circumstances, top 16. So what happens if the selection committee ranks its top 20 teams and there's no Group of Five member to be found?

'Keep ranking,' said BCS executive director Bill Hancock."

https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... -six-bowls

I literally laughed out loud when you referenced an article so old the Big East still existed. #keephopealive #iguess #seeyainnoaifallgoeswell #...

It's literally an article about the formation of the CFP. Feel free to cite anything supporting your claim that a G5 bid is NOT guaranteed.

I know it's tough to admit you're wrong when you've doubled down over and over and been super-condescending. But you're wrong.

Given the access bowl slot goes to the highest ranked G5 conference champion. And the CFP only ranks 25 teams. Please explain how a G5 conference champion that isn't in the CFP top 25 gets the bid. Never mind it wouldn't be App. And now, for the first time, I'll be condescending: you're effing flat wrong.

[EastHallApp]

You're right, I don't believe that at all. It is highest ranked G5 conference champion. That is not semantics. That is the rule. Now if we are in the CFP top 25 tomorrow, the dream lives. I personally am looking forward to a game in NOLA v. a very good LA Tech.

"The previous format mandated a minimum threshold for non-AQ teams: top 12, or in some circumstances, top 16. So what happens if the selection committee ranks its top 20 teams and there's no Group of Five member to be found?

'Keep ranking,' said BCS executive director Bill Hancock."

https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... -six-bowls

I literally laughed out loud when you referenced an article so old the Big East still existed. #keephopealive #iguess #seeyainnoaifallgoeswell #...

It's literally an article about the formation of the CFP. Feel free to cite anything supporting your claim that a G5 bid is NOT guaranteed.

I know it's tough to admit you're wrong when you've doubled down over and over and been super-condescending. But you're wrong.

Given the access bowl slot goes to the highest ranked G5 conference champion. And the CFP only ranks 25 teams. Please explain how a G5 conference champion that isn't in the CFP top 25 gets the bid. Never mind it wouldn't be App. And now, for the first time, I'll be condescending: you're effing flat wrong.

I don't have to explain it; one of the creators of the CFP explained it very concisely in the quote above. You just don't want to accept that answer.

[EastHallApp]

You're right, I don't believe that at all. It is highest ranked G5 conference champion. That is not semantics. That is the rule. Now if we are in the CFP top 25 tomorrow, the dream lives. I personally am looking forward to a game in NOLA v. a very good LA Tech.

"The previous format mandated a minimum threshold for non-AQ teams: top 12, or in some circumstances, top 16. So what happens if the selection committee ranks its top 20 teams and there's no Group of Five member to be found?

'Keep ranking,' said BCS executive director Bill Hancock."

https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... -six-bowls

I literally laughed out loud when you referenced an article so old the Big East still existed. #keephopealive #iguess #seeyainnoaifallgoeswell #...

It's literally an article about the formation of the CFP. Feel free to cite anything supporting your claim that a G5 bid is NOT guaranteed.

I know it's tough to admit you're wrong when you've doubled down over and over and been super-condescending. But you're wrong.

Given the access bowl slot goes to the highest ranked G5 conference champion. And the CFP only ranks 25 teams. Please explain how a G5 conference champion that isn't in the CFP top 25 gets the bid. Never mind it wouldn't be App. And now, for the first time, I'll be condescending: you're effing flat wrong.

From the official CFP website:

4. Number of Teams to Be Ranked

The committee will rank 25 teams. If no champion of a non‐contract conference is among that group on Selection Day, then the committee will compare the five conference champions against each other. The highest ranked of those five teams will be the representative.

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/spor ... tocol.aspx


You're welcome!

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Regardless, if we are “26” now at 8-1, anyone who doesn’t think we will be in the top 25 at 12-1, I don’t really have any time for their opinions. If we are 12-1 with a conference championship and 2 P5 wins, we will be in the top 25.

[APP93]

Regardless, if we are “26” now at 8-1, anyone who doesn’t think we will be in the top 25 at 12-1, I don’t really have any time for their opinions. If we are 12-1 with a conference championship and 2 P5 wins, we will be in the top 25.

Agree 100%...but it also does not matter. The G5 conferences are guaranteed a spot in NY6 game...so App needs to just keep winning and then championship weekend will be very fun to watch.

All of that being said, I would be thrilled with a 13-1 season, beating the holes and SC, 4th straight SBC title, another NOLA bowl win and a final top 25 ranking...a NY6 bowl is out of Apps hands right now, but it's definitely not dead and will not be even after CFP rankings come out this week...lots of games left, lots to be decided.