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APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

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APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by Black Saturday » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:22 pm

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:00 pm

I have seen one that has us as a -21. We really need a good 3-4 TD win in this game. ULM has some talent and I think a 42-14 type win would look great this week. A game like that is what you expect a ranked team to do.

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by appstate77 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:15 pm

1-0, beat ULM

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by Ncmtn » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:37 pm

Not gonna lie that seems super high. Must be based off the fact we are nationally ranked again. ULM is much better than that

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by WASU 93 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:03 pm

Ncmtn wrote:
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Not gonna lie that seems super high. Must be based off the fact we are nationally ranked again. ULM is much better than that
That's what happens when you are ranked and you just turned in a solid defensive effort. As long as we stop their running game, we'll be close to beating the spread. With that said, all I care about is another W.

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by NoLongerLurking » Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:14 pm

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:18 pm

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by InFor6More » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:46 pm

Do just enough to win and then shift the focus to the next game.

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:56 pm

InFor6More wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:46 pm
Do just enough to win and then shift the focus to the next game.
If we truly want to climb we need to beat the spread. We need wins that voters won't just leapfrog others over us for. We need something like 42-13 or 35-0, 38-7, etc. so voters will feel more confident in moving us up.

I say this because of the comments made by this AP voter when he posted his ballot today.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46654958/jo ... -in-top-10

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:13 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:56 pm
InFor6More wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:46 pm
Do just enough to win and then shift the focus to the next game.
If we truly want to climb we need to beat the spread. We need wins that voters won't just leapfrog others over us for. We need something like 42-13 or 35-0, 38-7, etc. so voters will feel more confident in moving us up.

I say this because of the comments made by this AP voter when he posted his ballot today.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46654958/jo ... -in-top-10
I don’t agree with your assessment. It is one guy’s methodology and based on his comment that the schedule is weak enough that he can’t promise to keep them ranked, I doubt margin of victory will assuage his vote. Margin of victory won’t matter to this guy. I get that you are big on the ranking thing, but it really means nothing if we don’t win the conference.

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:30 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:13 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:56 pm
InFor6More wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:46 pm
Do just enough to win and then shift the focus to the next game.
If we truly want to climb we need to beat the spread. We need wins that voters won't just leapfrog others over us for. We need something like 42-13 or 35-0, 38-7, etc. so voters will feel more confident in moving us up.

I say this because of the comments made by this AP voter when he posted his ballot today.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46654958/jo ... -in-top-10
I don’t agree with your assessment. It is one guy’s methodology and based on his comment that the schedule is weak enough that he can’t promise to keep them ranked, I doubt margin of victory will assuage his vote. Margin of victory won’t matter to this guy. I get that you are big on the ranking thing, but it really means nothing if we don’t win the conference.
Read other posts from me in the top 25 thread. I have only replied to folks for most part after telling them I'm not big on rankings. None of them matter still and all today did was getting us some publicity. It has zero effect on bowls and the CFP, which is most important, is not out for a few more weeks.

My point is that if we just get by 3-6 points every week in the SBC we will eventually slide or stay the same no matter if 11-0 or 13-0. I have direct messaged on message boards with at least 3 voters in FCS or FBS over the last 10 years and all 3 of them said that if you play a lesser team they want to see a score that reflects it.

Example, when San Diego was dominating the Pioneer League or Harvard dominated the Ivy League and were beating teams by 20-30 or more every week they would vote as high as say 12-15 range but if they were barely getting by they would never let them go higher than 20-22 range on their ballot. There was a ceiling but it was a little higher with the bigger margins of victory.

For that voter I'm sure if we beat ULM by 24 and his 23-25 range teams lose he will have no hesitation putting us 24-25.

Some of these voters will DM on Twitter or message boards if you are polite to them. No matter the schedule there is a margin of victory that would get their attention and usually it is beating the spread significantly.

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:47 pm

So if you’re not big on the rankings, then why keep pontificating on them?

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by MountainMan2020 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:46 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:56 pm
InFor6More wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:46 pm
Do just enough to win and then shift the focus to the next game.
If we truly want to climb we need to beat the spread. We need wins that voters won't just leapfrog others over us for. We need something like 42-13 or 35-0, 38-7, etc. so voters will feel more confident in moving us up.

I say this because of the comments made by this AP voter when he posted his ballot today.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46654958/jo ... -in-top-10

Win big like Baylor or SMU? Baylor scraped by on a blown call (and moved up four spots) and SMU didn’t even play (but moved up two spots). Those are two very weak top 20 resumes. Margin of victory and style points might help, but not a prerequisite. Just win baby.

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by Longrifle28 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:57 am

ULM is gonna be a different animal this week. By stats, prolific offense, non existent defense. However their three losses are to FSU in OT, Memphis, and ISU. They put points up on Memphis and FSU.

I remember them putting it on us a few years ago. Their QB is mobile and a gunslinger.

Gonna need for the defense to be sharp and for our offense to control clock and score efficiently.
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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by Yosef10 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:06 am

I’m sure Drink and Co. are pouring over the film of the 72-20 beating ISU put on ULM and the 20 point win by Memphis. This game shouldn’t be close.

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by NewApp » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:32 am

Yosef10 wrote:
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I’m sure Drink and Co. are pouring over the film of the 72-20 beating ISU put on ULM and the 20 point win by Memphis. This game shouldn’t be close.

They should be. Both games show how to beat the Hades out of UL-M.
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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by /\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:45 am

If our defense plays like they did against Louisiana, I don't see ULM getting more than 17 points
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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by Yosef77 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:47 am

Why are people saying we have a week schedule. I can't remember another year where at this point everyone we beat had a winning record (or 500 record). No losers on our schedule.

ETSU 0-0
Charlotte 1-0
Carolina 2-1
Coastal 3-1
Louisiana 4-1
Louisiana Monroe 3-3

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Re: APP 17.5 favorite over ULM

Unread post by NewApp » Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:01 am

Yosef77 wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:47 am
Why are people saying we have a week schedule. I can't remember another year where at this point everyone we beat had a winning record (or 500 record). No losers on our schedule.

ETSU 0-0
Charlotte 1-0
Carolina 2-1
Coastal 3-1
Louisiana 4-1
Louisiana Monroe 3-3

ETSU is 2-4.

Charlotte is 1-4
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