NY6

[AppSt12]

Now before you guys jump down my throat like a pack of hyenas let me first say this...I personally feel like our NY6 hopes our done...in fact I think South Carolina will beat our boys into the dirt

But...that being said...if San Jose State holds on to beat Boise tonight....combined with the SMU loss....does anyone think we still have a shot IF we win out? Yeah the AAC presents a tougher conference schedule than the sun belt...but I could see them all beating each other up plus....wouldnt North Carolina and South Carolina give us the 2 best victories between us, SMU, Cincinnati and Memphis?

Just a thought....but again....South Carolina will likely maul us. The team is undoubtedly devestated after they let it happen again this year. I'm sure they are too fragile after that to win an SEC night game....but in the event something crazy happened and we won....I feel like our Hope's arnt done (of course assuming GA Southern doesnt win out)

[hotrod2001]

I'd think Memphis is probably the favorite now at the moment.

There's still a lot of football to be played, USC isn't Clemson and maybe the guys will have a little bit of a chip on their shoulder...like all the other G5's we're going to need help, seeing that there isn't a clear front runner if you look at records. I mean, Cincinnati's probably up there too but they almost lost to ECU tonight.

[AppStFan1]

We blew our chance and aren’t anywhere near Memphis and SMU anyway.

Just so people will stop asking though here is a list of what would have to happen.

1. App State must win out and go 12-1, including wins over Georgia State and South Carolina.
2. Georgia Southern will have to lose one more. That would allow us to go to the SBC title game. They do play Troy and Georgia State. Keep an eye on Troy game because it would not shock me if they lay an egg there. If not, Georgia State is our only shot in my mind to get back to the title game.
3. Memphis will have to lose one more. They play Cincinnati.
4. SMU will have to lose one more. They play Navy.
5. Cincinnati will have to lose one more. They play Memphis.
6. Boise State will have to either lose tonight or one more. If they win out they likely play SDSU in the title game.
7. San Diego State will have to lose one more. Safest thing would be for them to lose one more in regular season and then beat Boise State in the MWC title game.
8. UCF lose one more. They have two losses but are a big name and there would be a debate unless they lose one more. They have Tulsa left who has almost pulled a couple upsets and Tulane.
9. Navy can't win out and win the AAC. They play Notre Dame and SMU so I don't think they win out.
10. Louisiana Tech lose one more. This one is the one we need to happen the least but I say it because many media still think CUSA is better than SBC but it is not. Their remaining schedule is weak with UAB being the best team left so they could end up 11-1. They would be ranked, even though they are clearly not a top 25 caliber team.

What do you think the odds of all that happening are? My guess is 5%, at best. Really too much to worry about.

With that said, we really need to win out and win the SBC title regardless of what others do because we could still finish ranked, like many of you are worried about, and set us up to be considered a top 2 G5 team next year with a real shot for the NY6 with 2 P5s who will likely be ranked in the preseason next year.

[AppStFan1]

I'd think Memphis is probably the favorite now at the moment.

There's still a lot of football to be played, USC isn't Clemson and maybe the guys will have a little bit of a chip on their shoulder...like all the other G5's we're going to need help, seeing that there isn't a clear front runner if you look at records. I mean, Cincinnati's probably up there too but they almost lost to ECU tonight.

Memphis is the best team in G5 with SMU just behind them. If SMU wins out and Memphis loses a regular season game then Boise State or SMU would be the top team.

[yosefshat]

If any of you watched the SMU vs Memphis game and think we are on the same level as them you have rocks in your head.

[AppStFan1]

If any of you watched the SMU vs Memphis game and think we are on the same level as them you have rocks in your head.

Agreed. I hope we can get to that level over the next 3 years. We would get beat by 17-20 by Memphis or SMU. Some did not like me saying we aren’t top 25 caliber but honestly I think SMU and Memphis are 20-25 range teams. We aren’t at their level yet.

[AppSt12]

We blew our chance and aren’t anywhere near Memphis and SMU anyway.

Just so people will stop asking though here is a list of what would have to happen.

1. App State must win out and go 12-1, including wins over Georgia State and South Carolina.
2. Georgia Southern will have to lose one more. That would allow us to go to the SBC title game. They do play Troy and Georgia State. Keep an eye on Troy game because it would not shock me if they lay an egg there. If not, Georgia State is our only shot in my mind to get back to the title game.
3. Memphis will have to lose one more. They play Cincinnati.
4. SMU will have to lose one more. They play Navy.
5. Cincinnati will have to lose one more. They play Memphis.
6. Boise State will have to either lose tonight or one more. If they win out they likely play SDSU in the title game.
7. San Diego State will have to lose one more. Safest thing would be for them to lose one more in regular season and then beat Boise State in the MWC title game.
8. UCF lose one more. They have two losses but are a big name and there would be a debate unless they lose one more. They have Tulsa left who has almost pulled a couple upsets and Tulane.
9. Navy can't win out and win the AAC. They play Notre Dame and SMU so I don't think they win out.
10. Louisiana Tech lose one more. This one is the one we need to happen the least but I say it because many media still think CUSA is better than SBC but it is not. Their remaining schedule is weak with UAB being the best team left so they could end up 11-1. They would be ranked, even though they are clearly not a top 25 caliber team.

What do you think the odds of all that happening are? My guess is 5%, at best. Really too much to worry about.

With that said, we really need to win out and win the SBC title regardless of what others do because we could still finish ranked, like many of you are worried about, and set us up to be considered a top 2 G5 team next year with a real shot for the NY6 with 2 P5s who will likely be ranked in the preseason next year.

Thank you for your reply. Reasonable. Concise. Actual information. No disrespect.

One of the best comments I've ever read on this board. AND I agree with most of all of it....except maybe 8 and 10...I think we could jump a 2 loss UCF with our p5 wins and I dont think LA Tech could jump us....but good stuff. I hope I'm wrong. Beating South Carolina would be big for us...

[AppStFan1]

We blew our chance and aren’t anywhere near Memphis and SMU anyway.

Just so people will stop asking though here is a list of what would have to happen.

1. App State must win out and go 12-1, including wins over Georgia State and South Carolina.
2. Georgia Southern will have to lose one more. That would allow us to go to the SBC title game. They do play Troy and Georgia State. Keep an eye on Troy game because it would not shock me if they lay an egg there. If not, Georgia State is our only shot in my mind to get back to the title game.
3. Memphis will have to lose one more. They play Cincinnati.
4. SMU will have to lose one more. They play Navy.
5. Cincinnati will have to lose one more. They play Memphis.
6. Boise State will have to either lose tonight or one more. If they win out they likely play SDSU in the title game.
7. San Diego State will have to lose one more. Safest thing would be for them to lose one more in regular season and then beat Boise State in the MWC title game.
8. UCF lose one more. They have two losses but are a big name and there would be a debate unless they lose one more. They have Tulsa left who has almost pulled a couple upsets and Tulane.
9. Navy can't win out and win the AAC. They play Notre Dame and SMU so I don't think they win out.
10. Louisiana Tech lose one more. This one is the one we need to happen the least but I say it because many media still think CUSA is better than SBC but it is not. Their remaining schedule is weak with UAB being the best team left so they could end up 11-1. They would be ranked, even though they are clearly not a top 25 caliber team.

What do you think the odds of all that happening are? My guess is 5%, at best. Really too much to worry about.

With that said, we really need to win out and win the SBC title regardless of what others do because we could still finish ranked, like many of you are worried about, and set us up to be considered a top 2 G5 team next year with a real shot for the NY6 with 2 P5s who will likely be ranked in the preseason next year.

Thank you for your reply. Reasonable. Concise. Actual information. No disrespect.

One of the best comments I've ever read on this board. AND I agree with most of all of it....except maybe 8 and 10...I think we could jump a 2 loss UCF with our p5 wins and I dont think LA Tech could jump us....but good stuff. I hope I'm wrong. Beating South Carolina would be big for us...

2 loss UCF if conference champ would jump us if Pitt finishes well and we struggle in our games. AAC is much stronger than any G5 right now.

I pretty much agree Louisiana Tech isn’t a definite but they could jump us. Voters think the CUSA is better than the SBC. They possibly could jump us but they wouldn’t jump a 1 or 2 loss AAC champ.

I think some on this board get way too excited at thinking of a NY6 or ranking when in reality nothing around the country effects us at all if we don’t handle our business.

[/\PP ST/\TE GRAD 09]

I'm just going to keep it short and sweet. What I've seen from this team, we are not ready for a NY6 game. Would have rather that been proven against USC than Southern, but nonetheless we aren't on the level of SMU, Natti, or Memphis. At this point, I'm just hoping for Georgia Southern to take another L and we win out to be able to host the Sun Belt title game. Then of course move on to New Orleans Bowl.

[appstatealum]

If any of you watched the SMU vs Memphis game and think we are on the same level as them you have rocks in your head.

Don't get caught up in their stats against each other. SMUs defense is bad. Memphis has some players, but they aren't some juggernaut. To say we aren't on their level is just an assumption. Tennessee has been whooping up on teams lately and Georgia St beat them. I bet if they were playing this week, we would all be saying Georgia St isn't on their level. It's CFB, these are all kids and outside of the top 5-6 teams, everyone is vulnerable. I think the top 3-4 group of 5 teams (including App) could best the majority of the Pac 12.

[Mjohn1988]

A lot of what’s being said about our team right now sounds just like after the Charlotte game. Then we beat UNC and all the chest thumping was on again. No doubt, the last 3 games have been a struggle but good teams have bad games. To be the next G5 NY6 contender the coaches and players are going to have to learn how to perform at a higher level week in and week out. On any given Saturday we’re as good as anyone in the G5.

[AppInDC]

We blew our chance and aren’t anywhere near Memphis and SMU anyway.

Just so people will stop asking though here is a list of what would have to happen.

1. App State must win out and go 12-1, including wins over Georgia State and South Carolina.
2. Georgia Southern will have to lose one more. That would allow us to go to the SBC title game. They do play Troy and Georgia State. Keep an eye on Troy game because it would not shock me if they lay an egg there. If not, Georgia State is our only shot in my mind to get back to the title game.
3. Memphis will have to lose one more. They play Cincinnati.
4. SMU will have to lose one more. They play Navy.
5. Cincinnati will have to lose one more. They play Memphis.
6. Boise State will have to either lose tonight or one more. If they win out they likely play SDSU in the title game.
7. San Diego State will have to lose one more. Safest thing would be for them to lose one more in regular season and then beat Boise State in the MWC title game.
8. UCF lose one more. They have two losses but are a big name and there would be a debate unless they lose one more. They have Tulsa left who has almost pulled a couple upsets and Tulane.
9. Navy can't win out and win the AAC. They play Notre Dame and SMU so I don't think they win out.
10. Louisiana Tech lose one more. This one is the one we need to happen the least but I say it because many media still think CUSA is better than SBC but it is not. Their remaining schedule is weak with UAB being the best team left so they could end up 11-1. They would be ranked, even though they are clearly not a top 25 caliber team.

What do you think the odds of all that happening are? My guess is 5%, at best. Really too much to worry about.

With that said, we really need to win out and win the SBC title regardless of what others do because we could still finish ranked, like many of you are worried about, and set us up to be considered a top 2 G5 team next year with a real shot for the NY6 with 2 P5s who will likely be ranked in the preseason next year.

Don't forget Georgia Southern has to also go on the road to Arkansas State. That's their biggest risk of loss in my opinion. If I had to guess, I think they go 2-2 down the stretch.

[WVAPPeer]

If any of you watched the SMU vs Memphis game and think we are on the same level as them you have rocks in your head.

Yep - all of that Defense just was overwhelming ---

[AppInDC]

If any of you watched the SMU vs Memphis game and think we are on the same level as them you have rocks in your head.

Don't get caught up in their stats against each other. SMUs defense is bad. Memphis has some players, but they aren't some juggernaut. To say we aren't on their level is just an assumption. Tennessee has been whooping up on teams lately and Georgia St beat them. I bet if they were playing this week, we would all be saying Georgia St isn't on their level. It's CFB, these are all kids and outside of the top 5-6 teams, everyone is vulnerable. I think the top 3-4 group of 5 teams (including App) could best the majority of the Pac 12.

Everybody only wants to judge teams based on their highest or lowest level. SMU has looked good at times this year, but what about when they needed triple OT to beat a two win Tulsa? They won by touchdown on the road against Arkansas State. We played Arkansas State on the road and won by 26 last year. Memphis dropped a game to Temple.

Right now on a neutral field, I think App is probably as good or within a field goal of any team in the G5 outside UCF.

[Mjohn1988]

If any of you watched the SMU vs Memphis game and think we are on the same level as them you have rocks in your head.

Don't get caught up in their stats against each other. SMUs defense is bad. Memphis has some players, but they aren't some juggernaut. To say we aren't on their level is just an assumption. Tennessee has been whooping up on teams lately and Georgia St beat them. I bet if they were playing this week, we would all be saying Georgia St isn't on their level. It's CFB, these are all kids and outside of the top 5-6 teams, everyone is vulnerable. I think the top 3-4 group of 5 teams (including App) could best the majority of the Pac 12.

Everybody only wants to judge teams based on their highest or lowest level. SMU has looked good at times this year, but what about when they needed triple OT to beat a two win Tulsa? They won by touchdown on the road against Arkansas State. We played Arkansas State on the road and won by 26 last year. Memphis dropped a game to Temple.

Right now on a neutral field, I think App is probably as good or within a field goal of any team in the G5 outside UCF.

I watched the SMU vs Memphis game and yes I think we could beat either of them or we could get blown of the field by either of them. If the team that played N.C. showed up we win. If the team that played USA showed for the game we lose. ECU took Cincinnati to the wire last night. So is ECU good or is Cincinnati bad? At 7 and 1 with wins against UNC and ULL ,I would say we’re a good team. GSU only has one bad loss and that was to LSU.GSU isn’t a bad team.

[AppSt94]

You guys need to step back from the keyboards and take a good long look at what you are saying. Yes the offense has not looked great the last two weeks but have you stopped the drama long enough to ask yourselves what has been different in the last two weeks? The weather. The last two games have been played in some horrible conditions for a team with a passing game. Look at the constants and then look at the variables. The constant is that these are the same coaches, players and plays that worked well the first 6 games. Did they suddenly regress? No. So now look at the variables. What was different? The weather. Gusting, swirling winds are no bueno for a team that has a passing game. The difference between the two teams that played us are better players and a better DC.

[APP93]

App is better than SC, game will be tough on the road, but I would not be surprised if App won. If any good can come out of last Thursday it is that the loss to GS will light a fire under them.

GS is a decent team, but they have 4 conference games left and would not be surprised if they lost one or more.

So win next 4 regular season games, get into the SBC game and win it and that is one heck of a season NY6 or no NY6.

[WataugaMan]

If memory serves me correct the weather for Homecoming wasn't all that great either.

[AppStFan1]

We blew our chance and aren’t anywhere near Memphis and SMU anyway.

Just so people will stop asking though here is a list of what would have to happen.

1. App State must win out and go 12-1, including wins over Georgia State and South Carolina.
2. Georgia Southern will have to lose one more. That would allow us to go to the SBC title game. They do play Troy and Georgia State. Keep an eye on Troy game because it would not shock me if they lay an egg there. If not, Georgia State is our only shot in my mind to get back to the title game.
3. Memphis will have to lose one more. They play Cincinnati.
4. SMU will have to lose one more. They play Navy.
5. Cincinnati will have to lose one more. They play Memphis.
6. Boise State will have to either lose tonight or one more. If they win out they likely play SDSU in the title game.
7. San Diego State will have to lose one more. Safest thing would be for them to lose one more in regular season and then beat Boise State in the MWC title game.
8. UCF lose one more. They have two losses but are a big name and there would be a debate unless they lose one more. They have Tulsa left who has almost pulled a couple upsets and Tulane.
9. Navy can't win out and win the AAC. They play Notre Dame and SMU so I don't think they win out.
10. Louisiana Tech lose one more. This one is the one we need to happen the least but I say it because many media still think CUSA is better than SBC but it is not. Their remaining schedule is weak with UAB being the best team left so they could end up 11-1. They would be ranked, even though they are clearly not a top 25 caliber team.

What do you think the odds of all that happening are? My guess is 5%, at best. Really too much to worry about.

With that said, we really need to win out and win the SBC title regardless of what others do because we could still finish ranked, like many of you are worried about, and set us up to be considered a top 2 G5 team next year with a real shot for the NY6 with 2 P5s who will likely be ranked in the preseason next year.

Don't forget Georgia Southern has to also go on the road to Arkansas State. That's their biggest risk of loss in my opinion. If I had to guess, I think they go 2-2 down the stretch.

They certainly could lose 1-2 games. They may go undefeated. What they do does not matter if we don't win though so no reason to worry about them until we win our game.

What is most important now is South Carolina. If we are anything more than the 2nd best team in the SBC we have to beat them. Nothing else matters but #BeatSC right now.

[Stonewall]

I watched Memphis struggle with Monroe. They are no powerhouse