How App State can still get the NY6 Bowl.

[hotrod2001]

Curious... Do ya'll think a "bad win" ever plays into things?

Georgia lost to South Carolina and they're currently in the playoff picture at #4. Depends on the team I guess.

[bigdaddyg]

Curious... Do ya'll think a "bad win" ever plays into things?

Ask Clemson

Correct. Committee is actually studying SOC and win differentials. It may be a stretch, but I think we would’ve ranked higher had we put another TD or two on SC. Just look at UGA going in the top 4 over Bama. Bama hasn’t beat a Top 25 and they held that against them.

And there is “bad wins” in the eyes of the committee, just look at Baylor- there is a reason they haven’t cracked the Top 10 as an undefeated team.

Baylor had to go to double OT in one game and triple OT in the other to beat bad teams. They still have to play Oklahoma and Texas. That is the meat of their schedule. Everyone is so worried about Clemson. They are in right now. This is a week to week deal. A team can look great up til now and look bad after next week. You have to impress and survive. Everyone acts like the next 3-4 weeks don’t matter. The teams will change. I really can’t imagine that there is a bad win. Even with the OT wins Baylor controls their fate. They really have three tough games remaining which might include two with Oklahoma. Minnesota also controls their fate. They got past one hurdle but if they beat OSU and go undefeated they are in. This deal just has to play out. I don’t believe that style points are as big for the other polls but you gotta look impressive from here on out.

[YesAppCan]

Curious... Do ya'll think a "bad win" ever plays into things?

Ask Clemson

Correct. Committee is actually studying SOC and win differentials. It may be a stretch, but I think we would’ve ranked higher had we put another TD or two on SC. Just look at UGA going in the top 4 over Bama. Bama hasn’t beat a Top 25 and they held that against them.

And there is “bad wins” in the eyes of the committee, just look at Baylor- there is a reason they haven’t cracked the Top 10 as an undefeated team.

This is what I was thinking too.

[Yosef84]

Didn't SMU drop out of the poll after an ugly loss to a 3 win ECU?

It does appear that performance relative to "expectations" is a factor.

[TomA415]

Didn't SMU drop out of the poll after an ugly loss to a 3 win ECU?

It does appear that performance relative to "expectations" is a factor.

They didn't lose but they won by 8 and gave up 51 point. The week before that they lost to Memphis and the week before that they beat a pretty average Houston team by 3

[Yosefus]

La Tech was not ranked but lurking behind us. Got 2nd loss to Marshall last night. 1 down 4-5 more to go. I have a feeling there will be at least 1 more lose besides Navy today. Just hope it's not us, feel like we should handle GState.

Go App!

[NattyBumppo'sRevenge]

Talking about the NY6 possibilities is a good use of time and fun to talk about. That being said, I think it’d be pretty awesome to play Marshal in the NO Bowl. I miss hating those guys. They were Georgia Southern before Georgia Southern was.

[appbio91]

We have to beat Georgia State, Texas State, Troy and UL again.

Not a cake walk for sure and our offense has some work to do.

[appbio91]

Curious... Do ya'll think a "bad win" ever plays into things?

Ask Clemson

I’d love to see SC beat them or at least push them like UNC did. That would certainly help us in a toss up situation.

[ah59396]

I’m feeling positive.

App wins and everyone goes down.

Navy loses to Notre Dame.
Boise loses in a shocker to NMSU.
Cincinnati loses to USF.
Memphis loses to Houston.

App back in the driver seat. I can feel it. Chaos week.

[citroknight]

Looks like the only outside domino to fall for you guys was Navy. Which counts but is a minor one because there was still a chance they didn't make the AAC championship game so right away then being ranked higher wouldn't matter since they'd be boxed out of being a conference champ.

But there's still plenty of football to go. In my opinion, if Memphis and Cincy make it to their regular season finale unscathed and Memphis wins, it's as close to a lock as it could be for the AAC.

Memphis then winning the championship game is pretty self explanatory, they'd get the spot no questions asked. But the chaos is if Cincy wins the rematch. It all depends on how far they drop after the Memphis loss. But even if they drop behind both Boise and App, they'd have the opportunity to knock out a likely top 15 Memphis in the championship game. A resume builder better than whoever the likely challengers will be for App and Boise in the respective title games.

[AppStFan1]

Looks like the only outside domino to fall for you guys was Navy. Which counts but is a minor one because there was still a chance they didn't make the AAC championship game so right away then being ranked higher wouldn't matter since they'd be boxed out of being a conference champ.

But there's still plenty of football to go. In my opinion, if Memphis and Cincy make it to their regular season finale unscathed and Memphis wins, it's as close to a lock as it could be for the AAC.

Memphis then winning the championship game is pretty self explanatory, they'd get the spot no questions asked. But the chaos is if Cincy wins the rematch. It all depends on how far they drop after the Memphis loss. But even if they drop behind both Boise and App, they'd have the opportunity to knock out a likely top 15 Memphis in the championship game. A resume builder better than whoever the likely challengers will be for App and Boise in the respective title games.

Basically the easiest path for us is whoever wins the Cincy vs Memphis game to lose the rematch in the AAC title game, Boise State to fall at any time, and then for App State to win out. It would also be good if SMU loses one just to be safe.

[T-Dog]

The AAC schedule is beneficial to App with Memphis and Cincy playing in the final week. There should be no cross-divisional games in the last week of the regular season.

We don't need all the one-loss AAC teams to lose, just the team that wins the championship.

Boise plays at Utah State in a big game next week, then would likely play San Diego State in the MWC Title game if they win that one. More beneficial scheduling.

If App goes 12-1 and doesn't finish as the top G5 team, then that means whoever is would have deserved it.

[AppStFan1]

The AAC schedule is beneficial to App with Memphis and Cincy playing in the final week. There should be no cross-divisional games in the last week of the regular season.

We don't need all the one-loss AAC teams to lose, just the team that wins the championship.

Boise plays at Utah State in a big game next week, then would likely play San Diego State in the MWC Title game if they win that one. More beneficial scheduling.

If App goes 12-1 and doesn't finish as the top G5 team, then that means whoever is would have deserved it.

As long as the AAC champ loses then yes that is all we need but it would be nice if they all took a loss prior to the game except for the team that loses in the AAC title game so that way none of them can complain. If you have 2 losses as a G5 you should not get the NY6 bid for sure.

Boise State is looking much better. It would still not surprise me if they slip up late.

A G5 playoff would be fun to see. Could you imagine a scenario where say Cincinnati vs App State and Memphis vs Boise State then the winners face for the NY6 bid? That would be big time games.

[citroknight]

The AAC schedule is beneficial to App with Memphis and Cincy playing in the final week. There should be no cross-divisional games in the last week of the regular season.

We don't need all the one-loss AAC teams to lose, just the team that wins the championship.

Boise plays at Utah State in a big game next week, then would likely play San Diego State in the MWC Title game if they win that one. More beneficial scheduling.

If App goes 12-1 and doesn't finish as the top G5 team, then that means whoever is would have deserved it.

As long as the AAC champ loses then yes that is all we need but it would be nice if they all took a loss prior to the game except for the team that loses in the AAC title game so that way none of them can complain. If you have 2 losses as a G5 you should not get the NY6 bid for sure.

Boise State is looking much better. It would still not surprise me if they slip up late.

A G5 playoff would be fun to see. Could you imagine a scenario where say Cincinnati vs App State and Memphis vs Boise State then the winners face for the NY6 bid? That would be big time games.

Those games would be fantastic. But never give the P5 another opportunity to break apart from us and turn the G5 into another subdivision between P5 and FCS.

[citroknight]

The AAC schedule is beneficial to App with Memphis and Cincy playing in the final week. There should be no cross-divisional games in the last week of the regular season.

We don't need all the one-loss AAC teams to lose, just the team that wins the championship.

Boise plays at Utah State in a big game next week, then would likely play San Diego State in the MWC Title game if they win that one. More beneficial scheduling.

If App goes 12-1 and doesn't finish as the top G5 team, then that means whoever is would have deserved it.

As long as the AAC champ loses then yes that is all we need but it would be nice if they all took a loss prior to the game except for the team that loses in the AAC title game so that way none of them can complain. If you have 2 losses as a G5 you should not get the NY6 bid for sure.

Boise State is looking much better. It would still not surprise me if they slip up late.

A G5 playoff would be fun to see. Could you imagine a scenario where say Cincinnati vs App State and Memphis vs Boise State then the winners face for the NY6 bid? That would be big time games.

[AppStFan1]

The AAC schedule is beneficial to App with Memphis and Cincy playing in the final week. There should be no cross-divisional games in the last week of the regular season.

We don't need all the one-loss AAC teams to lose, just the team that wins the championship.

Boise plays at Utah State in a big game next week, then would likely play San Diego State in the MWC Title game if they win that one. More beneficial scheduling.

If App goes 12-1 and doesn't finish as the top G5 team, then that means whoever is would have deserved it.

As long as the AAC champ loses then yes that is all we need but it would be nice if they all took a loss prior to the game except for the team that loses in the AAC title game so that way none of them can complain. If you have 2 losses as a G5 you should not get the NY6 bid for sure.

Boise State is looking much better. It would still not surprise me if they slip up late.

A G5 playoff would be fun to see. Could you imagine a scenario where say Cincinnati vs App State and Memphis vs Boise State then the winners face for the NY6 bid? That would be big time games.

Those games would be fantastic. But never give the P5 another opportunity to break apart from us and turn the G5 into another subdivision between P5 and FCS.

I definitely don't want to break off and be separate. What would you guys think of eliminating about a dozen bowl games, make it so P5 should have 7 wins and G5 should have 8 to get in a bowl game, and then have a 12-team playoff with 4 teams getting a first round bye. If you give a guaranteed spot to every P5 conference champ and at least 1 G5 team. It would bring in more money than current setup and increase national attention to playoff.

[ah59396]

The AAC schedule is beneficial to App with Memphis and Cincy playing in the final week. There should be no cross-divisional games in the last week of the regular season.

We don't need all the one-loss AAC teams to lose, just the team that wins the championship.

Boise plays at Utah State in a big game next week, then would likely play San Diego State in the MWC Title game if they win that one. More beneficial scheduling.

If App goes 12-1 and doesn't finish as the top G5 team, then that means whoever is would have deserved it.

As long as the AAC champ loses then yes that is all we need but it would be nice if they all took a loss prior to the game except for the team that loses in the AAC title game so that way none of them can complain. If you have 2 losses as a G5 you should not get the NY6 bid for sure.

Boise State is looking much better. It would still not surprise me if they slip up late.

A G5 playoff would be fun to see. Could you imagine a scenario where say Cincinnati vs App State and Memphis vs Boise State then the winners face for the NY6 bid? That would be big time games.

Those games would be fantastic. But never give the P5 another opportunity to break apart from us and turn the G5 into another subdivision between P5 and FCS.

They pretty much have. I mean, you guys are the best example of that. You did everything right, won all your games (for two straight years, an incredible accomplishment), and still didn’t get a sniff. It’s really a crock.


The NY6 is becoming the defacto G5 “National Championship” whether we like it or not. Even ESPN is focusing more on the talking points of “which G5 team will make the NY6”.

Outside of a playoff expanding to 8 and doing the 5 P5 conference winners, 2 at large and the G5 champ, the ship has sailed and the split is on.

[bigdaddyg]

The entire bowl system is ridiculous. Watching 4-6 teams playing and hearing the announcers talk about how they need to win their last two games to become bowl eligible. If you are 4-6 and have to win 2 just to break even that’s a bad season. If the criteria was 7-5 minimum with some games eliminated that would help. The best thing to do is eliminate the conference championship games and just expand the playoff by 8 games. Let the committee select the top 4 who get a bye. Then the next 8 (including the top G5) play with the winners facing the bye teams in the 4 major bowls, then the semis and championship game. The initial losers go on and play the other bowl games as normal.

[ah59396]

Week 12 wasn’t quite the chaos week I’d hoped for, but what better a time than WEEK 13.

My predictions:

App State beats Texas State so badly they fold the entire program

Utah State shocks Boise State

USF, stilly salty from they close loss to Cincy, upsets Memphis

A pretty good Temple team beats Cincinnati (who has looked quite beatable)

And for good measure, Navy rebounds and beats SMU

Baylor beats Texas and WVU beats Oklahoma State. Illinois upsets Iowa.

After the dust settles, App State is ranked 16 and in the driver seat.

I’m giving this my “Lock of the week” guarantee.