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Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by AppStFan1 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:24 pm

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If Baylor can beat Oklahoma, it all but guarantees LSU and Georgia get into the playoff. Auburn would go to the Sugar Bowl and Alabama would likely go to the Cotton. Three of the six remaining go to Florida bowls. Which leaves three to fill out the remaining six.
Here is a scenario. Say Georgia loses by 24. Baylor beats Oklahoma and then Utah indeed goes down. Who gets the final spot then?

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:32 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:24 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:16 pm
If Baylor can beat Oklahoma, it all but guarantees LSU and Georgia get into the playoff. Auburn would go to the Sugar Bowl and Alabama would likely go to the Cotton. Three of the six remaining go to Florida bowls. Which leaves three to fill out the remaining six.
Here is a scenario. Say Georgia loses by 24. Baylor beats Oklahoma and then Utah indeed goes down. Who gets the final spot then?
I don’t think so because I would guess the committee would feel that Georgia would beat Baylor. Just my opinion.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by appst89 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:47 pm

AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:24 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:16 pm
If Baylor can beat Oklahoma, it all but guarantees LSU and Georgia get into the playoff. Auburn would go to the Sugar Bowl and Alabama would likely go to the Cotton. Three of the six remaining go to Florida bowls. Which leaves three to fill out the remaining six.
Here is a scenario. Say Georgia loses by 24. Baylor beats Oklahoma and then Utah indeed goes down. Who gets the final spot then?
Baylor. The committee is not taking a two loss team.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:04 pm

appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:47 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:24 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:16 pm
If Baylor can beat Oklahoma, it all but guarantees LSU and Georgia get into the playoff. Auburn would go to the Sugar Bowl and Alabama would likely go to the Cotton. Three of the six remaining go to Florida bowls. Which leaves three to fill out the remaining six.
Here is a scenario. Say Georgia loses by 24. Baylor beats Oklahoma and then Utah indeed goes down. Who gets the final spot then?
Baylor. The committee is not taking a two loss team.
Unless that two loss team is Georgia.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by EastHallApp » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:10 pm

Don’t see any reason to think UGA could get in with two losses, especially when one was the dreadful home loss to SC.

If they lose, #4 goes to either Utah (if they come back obvs) or the Big 12 winner.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by appst89 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:14 pm

AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:04 pm
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:47 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:24 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:16 pm
If Baylor can beat Oklahoma, it all but guarantees LSU and Georgia get into the playoff. Auburn would go to the Sugar Bowl and Alabama would likely go to the Cotton. Three of the six remaining go to Florida bowls. Which leaves three to fill out the remaining six.
Here is a scenario. Say Georgia loses by 24. Baylor beats Oklahoma and then Utah indeed goes down. Who gets the final spot then?
Baylor. The committee is not taking a two loss team.
Unless that two loss team is Georgia.
I've learned to never say never, but I can't see any scenario where they take a two loss team when a one loss P5 conference champion is available.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by appstatealum » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:19 pm

In that scenario, Baylor goes
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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by AppSt94 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:24 pm

appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:14 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:04 pm
appst89 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:47 pm
AppStFan1 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:24 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:16 pm
If Baylor can beat Oklahoma, it all but guarantees LSU and Georgia get into the playoff. Auburn would go to the Sugar Bowl and Alabama would likely go to the Cotton. Three of the six remaining go to Florida bowls. Which leaves three to fill out the remaining six.
Here is a scenario. Say Georgia loses by 24. Baylor beats Oklahoma and then Utah indeed goes down. Who gets the final spot then?
Baylor. The committee is not taking a two loss team.
Unless that two loss team is Georgia.
I've learned to never say never, but I can't see any scenario where they take a two loss team when a one loss P5 conference champion is available.
Can’t argue with you there as you never know what they do. The only thing that I can think of that would lock a one loss Baylor team out would be how they win. I think a shootout win works against them. They gained notoriety for their defense. But you give up 30 + twice to the best team you played may be an issue for their case.

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Unread post by asu7 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:24 am

We really need this to happen now for some good news!
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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by Rick83 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:58 am

EJ article in today's paper on the Belk Bowl possibility:

Could No. 21 App State go to the Belk Bowl? The scenario that could make it happen
https://www.greensboro.com/news/local_n ... 302d7.html

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by ASUTodd » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:29 am

Rick83 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:58 am
EJ article in today's paper on the Belk Bowl possibility:

Could No. 21 App State go to the Belk Bowl? The scenario that could make it happen
https://www.greensboro.com/news/local_n ... 302d7.html
I say pi$$ on Gill and the Sunbelt. If that moron wants us to headline a bowl because he wants to flex muscle then screw it. I understand political/business speak....but he seems arrogant and ignorant. Sending App to the Belk Bowl would be the best thing ever. I hate to think that the Sunbelt admin would want to shoot their best team in the foot...but it sure sounds like it. We saved the Sunbelt, they owe us.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by Appstrong » Sat Dec 07, 2019 7:32 am

Yeah, just read the article by EJ, and Gill appears to be standing by his allegiances to SBC bowl tie-ins more than his institutional members. After reading that article I'm feeling a little pessimistic as to the possibility of Belk Bowl. Time to focus on today. #BeatLouisiana

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by ericsaid » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:13 am

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Yeah, just read the article by EJ, and Gill appears to be standing by his allegiances to SBC bowl tie-ins more than his institutional members. After reading that article I'm feeling a little pessimistic as to the possibility of Belk Bowl. Time to focus on today. #BeatLouisiana
Its double speak. He's saying there are contracts and we are "working with all 5 Bowls". There is nothing to work on other than selection. It sounds like they are working on getting this scenario to happen.

The Belk Bowl isn't just an improvement for App. I'm not sure of the payout for Arizona but the net gain is greater because we all subsidize the travel to Arizona for whomever goes. Louisiana and App would have no travel costs to speak of if going to Belk and NOLA.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by AppfaninCAALand » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:18 am

I thought I read somewhere that the SBC will be ending its tie in w/ Arizona and switching to Myrtle Beach/ESPN Bowl Pool. If thats true, what would be the harm in sending App to Belk, and sending the other 4 teams to the 4 bowls we will still have next year and leaving Arizona to pick up a MAC school. Everyone wins. What does it matter to Arizona if they have Ga State or Eastern Michigan, neither teams is bringing fans to Tucson anyway.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by Appstrong » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:29 am

I interpreted the comments by Gill to mean that he is working "exclusively" with the 5 SBC bowl ties and had no interest in involving himself in any efforts to support App to Belk, but the conversations about App to Belk were positive for the conference.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by bigdaddyg » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:38 am

I hate when a plan, scenario just makes TOO much sense and the powers that be crap all over it. It could be that he is saying what he’s supposed to say for the sake of the stated obligations and contractual tie ins but if something happens that is beyond his control- like the Mothership stepping in he can’t do anything about it. App to Charlotte just makes too much sense to me. I’ll make that drive and pay for nice seats but New Orleans is not in the picture more than likely.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by hotrod2001 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:07 am

Well I guess Oregon answered the Utah question...


Pretty sure LSU, OSU, Clemson and Georgia are locked in to the top 4 spots. The only two ways one of them gets knocked out is if either LSU or Georgia gets throttled by 40+ points over the other in the SEC championship game, or an unlikely situation where one of these teams assume they're locked in decides to rest their starters and plays their second-stringers through their championship game. The CFP committee might take that as gaming the system and stick the winner of Oklahoma/Baylor in that spot instead to send a message that this isn't NASCAR.

App v. Alabama in the Cotton Bowl...that would be horrifying, lol.

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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by asu7 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:13 am

Gill can’t publicly support a bowl that isn’t tied to the Belt for contractual obligations. So maybe behind there scenes he is trying to make this happen? That’s my hope anyways. I also think ESPN wants this to happen and Belk Bowl wants it. They have more power than Gill.

Gill’s comments were a lot of saving face yesterday. Can’t read much into them.
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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by ah59396 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:50 am

If the chips fall our way and we still get sent to New Orleans, we will know why. Failure of Sunbelt leadership to get it done.

I’ve been a pretty big fan of the Sunbelt but if Gill botches this for us, we need out of this conference immediately.
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Re: Apparently App has legitimately been considered in Belk Bowl talks.

Unread post by AppSt94 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:57 am

ah59396 wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 9:50 am
If the chips fall our way and we still get sent to New Orleans, we will know why. Failure of Sunbelt leadership to get it done.

I’ve been a pretty big fan of the Sunbelt but if Gill botches this for us, we need out of this conference immediately.
And go where?

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