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Who stays, who goes?

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by Stonewall » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:46 am

If Shawn is passed over , does he stay? Probably yes ,if it's TR .If not I'm not certain he won't be looking at other opportunities.

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by ericsaid » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:49 am

mountaineerman wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:39 am
Isn’t Roofs son on the team? I think he transferred.
TD is on the team. Had to sit out this year due to Transfer rules.

Would suggest going and watching his high school highlight tape. If he was 6'2 he probably would've been a 4-star recruit.

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:50 am

appstatealum wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:45 am
WVAPPeer wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:39 am
I would rephrase your comment from "the defense came around" to "the defensive coordinator finally came around" -
I came around on Roof, but I promise you, Roof was not solely responsible for the turn around. There were a couple of “field generals” that were making adjustments and new calls on the fly for this defense. Roof came around on the kids....
Under the right circumstances and understandings, I could see Roof sticking around and mentoring Clark and Gas.

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by 97APP » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:55 am

AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:50 am
appstatealum wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:45 am
WVAPPeer wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:39 am
I would rephrase your comment from "the defense came around" to "the defensive coordinator finally came around" -
I came around on Roof, but I promise you, Roof was not solely responsible for the turn around. There were a couple of “field generals” that were making adjustments and new calls on the fly for this defense. Roof came around on the kids....
Under the right circumstances and understandings, I could see Roof sticking around and mentoring Clark and Gas.
I could see this:
Clark as HC
keep Roof as DC/Assoc. HC (I think he may stay to coach his son)
Gas as Co-DC.
OC? if Clark is chosen as HC it will be interesting to see who he wants here.
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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:57 am

97APP wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:55 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:50 am
appstatealum wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:45 am
WVAPPeer wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:39 am
I would rephrase your comment from "the defense came around" to "the defensive coordinator finally came around" -
I came around on Roof, but I promise you, Roof was not solely responsible for the turn around. There were a couple of “field generals” that were making adjustments and new calls on the fly for this defense. Roof came around on the kids....
Under the right circumstances and understandings, I could see Roof sticking around and mentoring Clark and Gas.
I could see this:
Clark as HC
keep Roof as DC/Assoc. HC (I think he may stay to coach his son)
Gas as Co-DC.
OC? if Clark is chosen as HC it will be interesting to see who he wants here.
Maybe promote Riley to OC. See if he bites?

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by Trock44 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:13 pm

ASUchipman wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:17 am
I’ll be the first to admit I doubted Roof at first. After the Charlotte game, I was ready to run him out of town, but the defense came around. They played lights out in both Carolina games and the first ULaLa game. The players seem to like him. He has done a commendable job this year as DC. Some people just don’t like to admit they were wrong.
I give most of the credit to the players. Even Jordan Fehr said that there were a ton of Player-only meetings for the defense after the few couple of games. We have so much NFL talent on defense that the credit should go to them.

Also, with how the fans treated Roof early in the year I just think it would be good to part ways. I would rather have Coach Gas or DJ Smith leading the defense.

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by Yosef » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:18 pm

I could easily see Shawn Clark keeping OC and playing a dual hat like other coaches have been doing. It's been successful here and frees up budget for other hires.

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by JMappfan5 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:24 pm

Trock44 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:13 pm
ASUchipman wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:17 am
I’ll be the first to admit I doubted Roof at first. After the Charlotte game, I was ready to run him out of town, but the defense came around. They played lights out in both Carolina games and the first ULaLa game. The players seem to like him. He has done a commendable job this year as DC. Some people just don’t like to admit they were wrong.
I give most of the credit to the players. Even Jordan Fehr said that there were a ton of Player-only meetings for the defense after the few couple of games. We have so much NFL talent on defense that the credit should go to them.

Also, with how the fans treated Roof early in the year I just think it would be good to part ways. I would rather have Coach Gas or DJ Smith leading the defense.
The Defensive players love Coach Roof. I have had the privilege to sit with several parents and they love their Coach. Last year's Defensive recruits all sing his praises. Keep Roof and in a couple of years Coach Gas can run with this Defense!!!

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by ggasu » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:30 pm

Missouri wants a coaching staff with SEC experience....They are not giving Drink his choices automatically.

This was one of the reasons a couple other coaches turned down the interviews.

Not worried at all

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by AppSt94 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:31 pm

Yosef wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:18 pm
I could easily see Shawn Clark keeping OC and playing a dual hat like other coaches have been doing. It's been successful here and frees up budget for other hires.
That would concern me. Asking a guy to be both OC and HC is difficult enough, but especially when he hasn’t ever done either one at the FBS level. One time for a bowl game doesn’t count.

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by appchicago » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 pm

Nugget49 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:16 am
I am a little surprised that you guys think 3-6 current assistants would stay. That is about half the staff. Unless someone already at App gets the HC job I would have guessed they would bring in their own people. Of course there is the argument that you don't mess with what is already working, but most coaches don't seem to do that. Probably an ego thing--you have to have a pretty healthy one to become a HC.
Oh. Right on. Wow. Thanks for the explanation.

So by that logic, 100 percent of our assistants came in with Drink, right?

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by Nugget49 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:42 pm

appchicago wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 pm
Nugget49 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:16 am
I am a little surprised that you guys think 3-6 current assistants would stay. That is about half the staff. Unless someone already at App gets the HC job I would have guessed they would bring in their own people. Of course there is the argument that you don't mess with what is already working, but most coaches don't seem to do that. Probably an ego thing--you have to have a pretty healthy one to become a HC.
Oh. Right on. Wow. Thanks for the explanation.

So by that logic, 100 percent of our assistants came in with Drink, right?
You seem a little touchy, and are clearly not here for a conversation. I guess I can understand why. Good luck keeping your assistants, getting new assistants, or whatever puts you in a happy place.

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by MountaineerChemist10 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:50 pm

Nugget49 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:42 pm
appchicago wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 pm
Nugget49 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:16 am
I am a little surprised that you guys think 3-6 current assistants would stay. That is about half the staff. Unless someone already at App gets the HC job I would have guessed they would bring in their own people. Of course there is the argument that you don't mess with what is already working, but most coaches don't seem to do that. Probably an ego thing--you have to have a pretty healthy one to become a HC.
Oh. Right on. Wow. Thanks for the explanation.

So by that logic, 100 percent of our assistants came in with Drink, right?
You seem a little touchy, and are clearly not here for a conversation. I guess I can understand why. Good luck keeping your assistants, getting new assistants, or whatever puts you in a happy place.
Good luck beating us at SOMETHING. Not sure what that could be though :D

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by WASU 93 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:10 pm

97APP wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:55 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:50 am
appstatealum wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:45 am
WVAPPeer wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:39 am
I would rephrase your comment from "the defense came around" to "the defensive coordinator finally came around" -
I came around on Roof, but I promise you, Roof was not solely responsible for the turn around. There were a couple of “field generals” that were making adjustments and new calls on the fly for this defense. Roof came around on the kids....
Under the right circumstances and understandings, I could see Roof sticking around and mentoring Clark and Gas.
I could see this:
Clark as HC
keep Roof as DC/Assoc. HC (I think he may stay to coach his son)
Gas as Co-DC.
OC? if Clark is chosen as HC it will be interesting to see who he wants here.
Ted Roof has had a lot of stops in his coaching career: 14 in 33 years (including a second stint at both Duke and Georgia Tech). Maybe, he's ready to settle down in the NC Mountains for a few years.

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by Nugget49 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:17 pm

MountaineerChemist10 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:50 pm
Nugget49 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:42 pm
appchicago wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 pm
Nugget49 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:16 am
I am a little surprised that you guys think 3-6 current assistants would stay. That is about half the staff. Unless someone already at App gets the HC job I would have guessed they would bring in their own people. Of course there is the argument that you don't mess with what is already working, but most coaches don't seem to do that. Probably an ego thing--you have to have a pretty healthy one to become a HC.
Oh. Right on. Wow. Thanks for the explanation.

So by that logic, 100 percent of our assistants came in with Drink, right?
You seem a little touchy, and are clearly not here for a conversation. I guess I can understand why. Good luck keeping your assistants, getting new assistants, or whatever puts you in a happy place.
Good luck beating us at SOMETHING. Not sure what that could be though :D
Thanks. 21-12 against App in basketball. Congratulations on your recent win. Too bad none of your fans showed up to see it.

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by Chaz » Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:17 pm

WASU 93 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:10 pm
97APP wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:55 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:50 am
appstatealum wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:45 am
WVAPPeer wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:39 am
I would rephrase your comment from "the defense came around" to "the defensive coordinator finally came around" -
I came around on Roof, but I promise you, Roof was not solely responsible for the turn around. There were a couple of “field generals” that were making adjustments and new calls on the fly for this defense. Roof came around on the kids....
Under the right circumstances and understandings, I could see Roof sticking around and mentoring Clark and Gas.
I could see this:
Clark as HC
keep Roof as DC/Assoc. HC (I think he may stay to coach his son)
Gas as Co-DC.
OC? if Clark is chosen as HC it will be interesting to see who he wants here.
Ted Roof has had a lot of stops in his coaching career: 14 in 33 years (including a second stint at both Duke and Georgia Tech). Maybe, he's ready to settle down in the NC Mountains for a few years.
I was arguably the loudest critic of Roof after the first couple games this season, but I now absolutely understand why Drinkwitz brought Roof with him, and, for the same reasons, think he would be a valuable asset to Clark and the team if Clark were to get the HC job. Maybe Clark wouldn't even want him. I don't know.

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by Yosef » Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:18 pm

MountaineerChemist10 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:50 pm
Nugget49 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:42 pm
appchicago wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:42 pm
Nugget49 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:16 am
I am a little surprised that you guys think 3-6 current assistants would stay. That is about half the staff. Unless someone already at App gets the HC job I would have guessed they would bring in their own people. Of course there is the argument that you don't mess with what is already working, but most coaches don't seem to do that. Probably an ego thing--you have to have a pretty healthy one to become a HC.
Oh. Right on. Wow. Thanks for the explanation.

So by that logic, 100 percent of our assistants came in with Drink, right?
You seem a little touchy, and are clearly not here for a conversation. I guess I can understand why. Good luck keeping your assistants, getting new assistants, or whatever puts you in a happy place.
Good luck beating us at SOMETHING. Not sure what that could be though :D
Basketball is a pretty good guess...

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by biggie » Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:18 pm

Does Roof stay only to coach his son and is gone after that (doesn't his son only have 1 year left?).

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by Saint3333 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:23 pm

The number of assistants that join Drink will be telling. If he only takes 2-3 (who will get significant raises) that will say a lot about the stability they feel they’ll get from Missouri. Most assistant coach contracts are one year.

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Re: Who stays, who goes?

Unread post by NattyBumppo'sRevenge » Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:31 pm

Chaz wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:17 pm
WASU 93 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:10 pm
97APP wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:55 am
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:50 am
appstatealum wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:45 am

I came around on Roof, but I promise you, Roof was not solely responsible for the turn around. There were a couple of “field generals” that were making adjustments and new calls on the fly for this defense. Roof came around on the kids....
Under the right circumstances and understandings, I could see Roof sticking around and mentoring Clark and Gas.
I could see this:
Clark as HC
keep Roof as DC/Assoc. HC (I think he may stay to coach his son)
Gas as Co-DC.
OC? if Clark is chosen as HC it will be interesting to see who he wants here.
Ted Roof has had a lot of stops in his coaching career: 14 in 33 years (including a second stint at both Duke and Georgia Tech). Maybe, he's ready to settle down in the NC Mountains for a few years.
I was arguably the loudest critic of Roof after the first couple games this season, but I now absolutely understand why Drinkwitz brought Roof with him, and, for the same reasons, think he would be a valuable asset to Clark and the team if Clark were to get the HC job. Maybe Clark wouldn't even want him. I don't know.
That goes without saying... :lol:

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