So finishing ranked ahead of Memphis is the most important thing for the season? Even though they got in the cotton bowl and we didn’t?AppInDC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:22 pmI'm pulling for Penn State too. Not sure if the pollsters will drop Memphis below App if they lose but they definitely won't if they win. It would be very cool to finish with the best record of any team not in the playoff. And since we talk about setting up for potential NY6 appearances in the future, it would help preseason expectations if some of App's main contenders are knocked down a peg.
Also I don't think we are in desperate need of G5 wins in the NY6. The group is 3-2 under the current format The two losses were by one score. The top tier G5 teams have repeatedly proved they can beat major programs. If Memphis loses today, that doesn't change at all.
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I don't recall saying that finishing ranked ahead of Memphis was "the most important thing for the season". I said it would be cool to finish in the final poll ahead of them and all other G5 teams and that doing so could marginally improve our chances of a good poll start for next year.Seattleapp wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:33 pmSo finishing ranked ahead of Memphis is the most important thing for the season? Even though they got in the cotton bowl and we didn’t?AppInDC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:22 pmI'm pulling for Penn State too. Not sure if the pollsters will drop Memphis below App if they lose but they definitely won't if they win. It would be very cool to finish with the best record of any team not in the playoff. And since we talk about setting up for potential NY6 appearances in the future, it would help preseason expectations if some of App's main contenders are knocked down a peg.
Also I don't think we are in desperate need of G5 wins in the NY6. The group is 3-2 under the current format The two losses were by one score. The top tier G5 teams have repeatedly proved they can beat major programs. If Memphis loses today, that doesn't change at all.
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Well I do believe we could have fared better than Memphis. We should be highest ranked G5 in final poll. Would be heresy if not. Looking forward to an exciting 2020.
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It’s going to be interesting to see how the ranking committee deals with that big old 13-1 and 2-0 vs P5 record of ours. Will they rank Memphis one over us? What if Cincy beats up a bad BC team that finishes 6-7?
This is a new and good “problem” for the Belt, and it may be a while before it comes up again. However, one way or another, we will find out how much of a proponent our new SBC commissioner is.
This is a new and good “problem” for the Belt, and it may be a while before it comes up again. However, one way or another, we will find out how much of a proponent our new SBC commissioner is.
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Maybe so. The Memphis run defense was deplorable. My first takeaway was that our defense is better than both of those on the field today.
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I noticed the same thing about the defense. Go look at all of their scores. I mean didn't ECU put like 43 on Cincy?
Look at the scoring defense. Only 3 teams give up less than 25 per game and 5 teams give up more than 30.
SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
1. Cincinnati 13 33 18 28 1 0 0 282 21.7
2. Navy 12 34 12 33 0 0 0 273 22.8
3. UCF 13 36 16 31 2 0 0 299 23.0
4. Temple 13 43 10 41 0 1 3 337 25.9
5. Memphis 14 45 18 38 4 0 0 370 26.4
6. Tulane 12 41 16 35 0 0 0 329 27.4
7. USF 12 45 11 42 1 0 0 347 28.9
8. Tulsa 12 48 14 44 0 0 1 376 31.3
9. SMU 13 53 20 50 2 0 1 434 33.4
10. ECU 12 53 10 50 2 0 1 404 33.7
11. Houston 12 54 10 52 0 0 1 408 34.0
12. UConn 12 67 6 66 0 0 0 486 40.5
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There are no more committee rankings left for the 2019-2020 season.MAD Doctor wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 5:12 pmIt’s going to be interesting to see how the ranking committee deals with that big old 13-1 and 2-0 vs P5 record of ours. Will they rank Memphis one over us? What if Cincy beats up a bad BC team that finishes 6-7?
This is a new and good “problem” for the Belt, and it may be a while before it comes up again. However, one way or another, we will find out how much of a proponent our new SBC commissioner is.
The question is if App can continue having good performances against Top 10 P5 teams in the first few weeks of the season. If App performs to what has become the norm since 2015 - against teams who don't make the CFP - App will be in solid position to get ranked again. The second question is how will the committee interpret the results of the AAC bowl games in future rankings? They had a weak out of conference schedule as a collective and their best P5 win was a 4-8 Ole Miss; meanwhile Memphis lost to Temple and we know how Temple played UNC. We also know how App played Penn State in 2018, UNC and USC in 2019.
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"Its because the AAC plays awesome offense! Defenses can't keep up!"AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:30 pmI noticed the same thing about the defense. Go look at all of their scores. I mean didn't ECU put like 43 on Cincy?
Look at the scoring defense. Only 3 teams give up less than 25 per game and 5 teams give up more than 30.
SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
1. Cincinnati 13 33 18 28 1 0 0 282 21.7
2. Navy 12 34 12 33 0 0 0 273 22.8
3. UCF 13 36 16 31 2 0 0 299 23.0
4. Temple 13 43 10 41 0 1 3 337 25.9
5. Memphis 14 45 18 38 4 0 0 370 26.4
6. Tulane 12 41 16 35 0 0 0 329 27.4
7. USF 12 45 11 42 1 0 0 347 28.9
8. Tulsa 12 48 14 44 0 0 1 376 31.3
9. SMU 13 53 20 50 2 0 1 434 33.4
10. ECU 12 53 10 50 2 0 1 404 33.7
11. Houston 12 54 10 52 0 0 1 408 34.0
12. UConn 12 67 6 66 0 0 0 486 40.5
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LOL. Well Memphis did put 39 on Penn State who gave up just 16ppg in the Big Ten. I would say Memphis has a very good offense. I do feel safe in saying the Memphis defense is nowhere near as good as ours.ericsaid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:37 pm"Its because the AAC plays awesome offense! Defenses can't keep up!"AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:30 pmI noticed the same thing about the defense. Go look at all of their scores. I mean didn't ECU put like 43 on Cincy?
Look at the scoring defense. Only 3 teams give up less than 25 per game and 5 teams give up more than 30.
SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
1. Cincinnati 13 33 18 28 1 0 0 282 21.7
2. Navy 12 34 12 33 0 0 0 273 22.8
3. UCF 13 36 16 31 2 0 0 299 23.0
4. Temple 13 43 10 41 0 1 3 337 25.9
5. Memphis 14 45 18 38 4 0 0 370 26.4
6. Tulane 12 41 16 35 0 0 0 329 27.4
7. USF 12 45 11 42 1 0 0 347 28.9
8. Tulsa 12 48 14 44 0 0 1 376 31.3
9. SMU 13 53 20 50 2 0 1 434 33.4
10. ECU 12 53 10 50 2 0 1 404 33.7
11. Houston 12 54 10 52 0 0 1 408 34.0
12. UConn 12 67 6 66 0 0 0 486 40.5
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For comparison, only 2 SunBelt teams give you less than 25 and 7 give up more than 30.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:30 pmI noticed the same thing about the defense. Go look at all of their scores. I mean didn't ECU put like 43 on Cincy?
Look at the scoring defense. Only 3 teams give up less than 25 per game and 5 teams give up more than 30.
SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
1. Cincinnati 13 33 18 28 1 0 0 282 21.7
2. Navy 12 34 12 33 0 0 0 273 22.8
3. UCF 13 36 16 31 2 0 0 299 23.0
4. Temple 13 43 10 41 0 1 3 337 25.9
5. Memphis 14 45 18 38 4 0 0 370 26.4
6. Tulane 12 41 16 35 0 0 0 329 27.4
7. USF 12 45 11 42 1 0 0 347 28.9
8. Tulsa 12 48 14 44 0 0 1 376 31.3
9. SMU 13 53 20 50 2 0 1 434 33.4
10. ECU 12 53 10 50 2 0 1 404 33.7
11. Houston 12 54 10 52 0 0 1 408 34.0
12. UConn 12 67 6 66 0 0 0 486 40.5
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The two leagues are comparable and I don't think the talent at the top is far apart, if much at all. I'm pretty sure not only App but Louisiana could have competed with the top 3-4 in the AAC.citroknight wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:34 pmFor comparison, only 2 SunBelt teams give you less than 25 and 7 give up more than 30.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:30 pmI noticed the same thing about the defense. Go look at all of their scores. I mean didn't ECU put like 43 on Cincy?
Look at the scoring defense. Only 3 teams give up less than 25 per game and 5 teams give up more than 30.
SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
1. Cincinnati 13 33 18 28 1 0 0 282 21.7
2. Navy 12 34 12 33 0 0 0 273 22.8
3. UCF 13 36 16 31 2 0 0 299 23.0
4. Temple 13 43 10 41 0 1 3 337 25.9
5. Memphis 14 45 18 38 4 0 0 370 26.4
6. Tulane 12 41 16 35 0 0 0 329 27.4
7. USF 12 45 11 42 1 0 0 347 28.9
8. Tulsa 12 48 14 44 0 0 1 376 31.3
9. SMU 13 53 20 50 2 0 1 434 33.4
10. ECU 12 53 10 50 2 0 1 404 33.7
11. Houston 12 54 10 52 0 0 1 408 34.0
12. UConn 12 67 6 66 0 0 0 486 40.5
After seeing Memphis today I think it would be a good game if we played them. They are very good but I think we have a little more depth, which could be the difference. They deserved what they got but it is a shame that we could not play them just to settle who the top G5 is for sure. I have a feeling the polls will drop them to just 1-2 spots ahead of us but not below and I really am not sure who would win.
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Crazy, just think, here we are at the end of the 2019 season talking about how good our defense was.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:44 pmLOL. Well Memphis did put 39 on Penn State who gave up just 16ppg in the Big Ten. I would say Memphis has a very good offense. I do feel safe in saying the Memphis defense is nowhere near as good as ours.ericsaid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:37 pm"Its because the AAC plays awesome offense! Defenses can't keep up!"AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:30 pmI noticed the same thing about the defense. Go look at all of their scores. I mean didn't ECU put like 43 on Cincy?
Look at the scoring defense. Only 3 teams give up less than 25 per game and 5 teams give up more than 30.
SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
1. Cincinnati 13 33 18 28 1 0 0 282 21.7
2. Navy 12 34 12 33 0 0 0 273 22.8
3. UCF 13 36 16 31 2 0 0 299 23.0
4. Temple 13 43 10 41 0 1 3 337 25.9
5. Memphis 14 45 18 38 4 0 0 370 26.4
6. Tulane 12 41 16 35 0 0 0 329 27.4
7. USF 12 45 11 42 1 0 0 347 28.9
8. Tulsa 12 48 14 44 0 0 1 376 31.3
9. SMU 13 53 20 50 2 0 1 434 33.4
10. ECU 12 53 10 50 2 0 1 404 33.7
11. Houston 12 54 10 52 0 0 1 408 34.0
12. UConn 12 67 6 66 0 0 0 486 40.5
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Our defense was suppose to be good just like the standard should be high next year with all the speed we have returning. I know from a leadership standpoint and with new faces there might be an early adjustment period but by game 4-5 I expect to see a top tier G5 defense. We got a lot of speed.Mjohn1988 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 29, 2019 12:50 amCrazy, just think, here we are at the end of the 2019 season talking about how good our defense was.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:44 pmLOL. Well Memphis did put 39 on Penn State who gave up just 16ppg in the Big Ten. I would say Memphis has a very good offense. I do feel safe in saying the Memphis defense is nowhere near as good as ours.ericsaid wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:37 pm"Its because the AAC plays awesome offense! Defenses can't keep up!"AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:30 pmI noticed the same thing about the defense. Go look at all of their scores. I mean didn't ECU put like 43 on Cincy?
Look at the scoring defense. Only 3 teams give up less than 25 per game and 5 teams give up more than 30.
SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
1. Cincinnati 13 33 18 28 1 0 0 282 21.7
2. Navy 12 34 12 33 0 0 0 273 22.8
3. UCF 13 36 16 31 2 0 0 299 23.0
4. Temple 13 43 10 41 0 1 3 337 25.9
5. Memphis 14 45 18 38 4 0 0 370 26.4
6. Tulane 12 41 16 35 0 0 0 329 27.4
7. USF 12 45 11 42 1 0 0 347 28.9
8. Tulsa 12 48 14 44 0 0 1 376 31.3
9. SMU 13 53 20 50 2 0 1 434 33.4
10. ECU 12 53 10 50 2 0 1 404 33.7
11. Houston 12 54 10 52 0 0 1 408 34.0
12. UConn 12 67 6 66 0 0 0 486 40.5
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They lost to Temple who couldn't compete with a lowly 6-6 ACC team *sarcasm*.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:25 pmThe two leagues are comparable and I don't think the talent at the top is far apart, if much at all. I'm pretty sure not only App but Louisiana could have competed with the top 3-4 in the AAC.citroknight wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:34 pmFor comparison, only 2 SunBelt teams give you less than 25 and 7 give up more than 30.AppStFan1 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:30 pmI noticed the same thing about the defense. Go look at all of their scores. I mean didn't ECU put like 43 on Cincy?
Look at the scoring defense. Only 3 teams give up less than 25 per game and 5 teams give up more than 30.
SCORING DEFENSE G TD FG XPT 2XP DXP Saf Points Avg/G
1. Cincinnati 13 33 18 28 1 0 0 282 21.7
2. Navy 12 34 12 33 0 0 0 273 22.8
3. UCF 13 36 16 31 2 0 0 299 23.0
4. Temple 13 43 10 41 0 1 3 337 25.9
5. Memphis 14 45 18 38 4 0 0 370 26.4
6. Tulane 12 41 16 35 0 0 0 329 27.4
7. USF 12 45 11 42 1 0 0 347 28.9
8. Tulsa 12 48 14 44 0 0 1 376 31.3
9. SMU 13 53 20 50 2 0 1 434 33.4
10. ECU 12 53 10 50 2 0 1 404 33.7
11. Houston 12 54 10 52 0 0 1 408 34.0
12. UConn 12 67 6 66 0 0 0 486 40.5
After seeing Memphis today I think it would be a good game if we played them. They are very good but I think we have a little more depth, which could be the difference. They deserved what they got but it is a shame that we could not play them just to settle who the top G5 is for sure. I have a feeling the polls will drop them to just 1-2 spots ahead of us but not below and I really am not sure who would win.
Memphis and Boise State both won the perception game in 2019 and thats is why they are ranked above App. Each teams most impressive wins came in conference and neither conference had a win against a ranked P5 out of conference. Yet, some how, each conference managed to get multiple teams ranked throughout the season based on playing and beating each other? Its circular logic and it only makes sense to me when you're looking to believe that the committee is positioning Boise or the AAC for NY6.