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Nic !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:45 pm
by Stonewall
Is back!!!

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:09 pm
by VNova
What's the word on his role with the offense?

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:12 pm
by ASUchipman
Who’s gonna be the first one to gripe about this?

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:14 pm
by Mikebibbyforthreeeee
Offensive line

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:25 pm
by The Rock
Mikebibbyforthreeeee wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:14 pm
Offensive line
Know that or is it a guess? I wonder if he takes back TE and watts moves to OL. One of these 2 probably takes ST

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:38 pm
by AppSt94
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:25 pm
Mikebibbyforthreeeee wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:14 pm
Offensive line
Know that or is it a guess? I wonder if he takes back TE and watts moves to OL. One of these 2 probably takes ST
He is coaching the OL.

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:51 pm
by The Rock
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:38 pm
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:25 pm
Mikebibbyforthreeeee wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:14 pm
Offensive line
Know that or is it a guess? I wonder if he takes back TE and watts moves to OL. One of these 2 probably takes ST
He is coaching the OL.
Cool. Thanks.

Now that we have a better idea of what we are looking at, lets summarize.

Shawn Clark- HC
Petersen- OC/QB(?)
RB- _____________
WR- Pat Washington
TE- Justin Watts
OL- Nic Cardwell
Defense
Dale Jones- DC/Lbs
Cort Braswell- DL (?)
James Rowe- CBs (?)
Debastini- Lbs
_________ Safeties
__________ Special Teams

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:02 pm
by DoesntEvenGoHere
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:51 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:38 pm
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:25 pm
Mikebibbyforthreeeee wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:14 pm
Offensive line
Know that or is it a guess? I wonder if he takes back TE and watts moves to OL. One of these 2 probably takes ST
He is coaching the OL.
Cool. Thanks.

Now that we have a better idea of what we are looking at, lets summarize.

Shawn Clark- HC
Petersen- OC/QB(?)
RB- _____________
WR- Pat Washington
TE- Justin Watts
OL- Nic Cardwell
Defense
Dale Jones- DC/Lbs
Cort Braswell- DL (?)
James Rowe- CBs (?)
Debastini- Lbs
_________ Safeties
__________ Special Teams
We almost have to assume whoever we hire as RB coach is going to be our Special Teams Coordinator. Similar to how Holt was. RB coach is an easy position to pair Special Teams Coordinator with all things considered.

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:12 pm
by The Rock
DoesntEvenGoHere wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:02 pm
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:51 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:38 pm
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:25 pm
Mikebibbyforthreeeee wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:14 pm
Offensive line
Know that or is it a guess? I wonder if he takes back TE and watts moves to OL. One of these 2 probably takes ST
He is coaching the OL.
Cool. Thanks.

Now that we have a better idea of what we are looking at, lets summarize.

Shawn Clark- HC
Petersen- OC/QB(?)
RB- _____________
WR- Pat Washington
TE- Justin Watts
OL- Nic Cardwell
Defense
Dale Jones- DC/Lbs
Cort Braswell- DL (?)
James Rowe- CBs (?)
Debastini- Lbs
_________ Safeties
__________ Special Teams
We almost have to assume whoever we hire as RB coach is going to be our Special Teams Coordinator. Similar to how Holt was. RB coach is an easy position to pair Special Teams Coordinator with all things considered.
One would assume Ware may fill those gaps, but I can’t understand when he was already on staff and still recruiting for us, why the announcement has been mad yet.

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:39 am
by SpeedkingATL
Certainly know Nic is a high character, high energy type of guy. Glad to see him back at The Rock!!

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:14 am
by AppSt94
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:12 pm
DoesntEvenGoHere wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:02 pm
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:51 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:38 pm
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:25 pm


Know that or is it a guess? I wonder if he takes back TE and watts moves to OL. One of these 2 probably takes ST
He is coaching the OL.
Cool. Thanks.

Now that we have a better idea of what we are looking at, lets summarize.

Shawn Clark- HC
Petersen- OC/QB(?)
RB- _____________
WR- Pat Washington
TE- Justin Watts
OL- Nic Cardwell
Defense
Dale Jones- DC/Lbs
Cort Braswell- DL (?)
James Rowe- CBs (?)
Debastini- Lbs
_________ Safeties
__________ Special Teams
We almost have to assume whoever we hire as RB coach is going to be our Special Teams Coordinator. Similar to how Holt was. RB coach is an easy position to pair Special Teams Coordinator with all things considered.
One would assume Ware may fill those gaps, but I can’t understand when he was already on staff and still recruiting for us, why the announcement has been mad yet.
He isn’t talking to players. He is representing App as a relationship builder. He isn’t allowed to speak directly to kids.

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:40 pm
by Mjohn1988
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:14 am
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:12 pm
DoesntEvenGoHere wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:02 pm
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:51 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:38 pm

He is coaching the OL.
Cool. Thanks.

Now that we have a better idea of what we are looking at, lets summarize.

Shawn Clark- HC
Petersen- OC/QB(?)
RB- _____________
WR- Pat Washington
TE- Justin Watts
OL- Nic Cardwell
Defense
Dale Jones- DC/Lbs
Cort Braswell- DL (?)
James Rowe- CBs (?)
Debastini- Lbs
_________ Safeties
__________ Special Teams
We almost have to assume whoever we hire as RB coach is going to be our Special Teams Coordinator. Similar to how Holt was. RB coach is an easy position to pair Special Teams Coordinator with all things considered.
One would assume Ware may fill those gaps, but I can’t understand when he was already on staff and still recruiting for us, why the announcement has been mad yet.
He isn’t talking to players. He is representing App as a relationship builder. He isn’t allowed to speak directly to kids.
Would that be current players, recruits, or both?

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:19 pm
by AppSt94
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:40 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:14 am
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:12 pm
DoesntEvenGoHere wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:02 pm
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:51 pm


Cool. Thanks.

Now that we have a better idea of what we are looking at, lets summarize.

Shawn Clark- HC
Petersen- OC/QB(?)
RB- _____________
WR- Pat Washington
TE- Justin Watts
OL- Nic Cardwell
Defense
Dale Jones- DC/Lbs
Cort Braswell- DL (?)
James Rowe- CBs (?)
Debastini- Lbs
_________ Safeties
__________ Special Teams
We almost have to assume whoever we hire as RB coach is going to be our Special Teams Coordinator. Similar to how Holt was. RB coach is an easy position to pair Special Teams Coordinator with all things considered.
One would assume Ware may fill those gaps, but I can’t understand when he was already on staff and still recruiting for us, why the announcement has been mad yet.
He isn’t talking to players. He is representing App as a relationship builder. He isn’t allowed to speak directly to kids.
Would that be current players, recruits, or both?
Both I believe. I know that he isn’t allowed to speak directly with recruits. Only FT coaches are allowed to do that. I also believe that football staff, outside of coaches are limited to non instructional contact with current players. That includes QC coaches. I do believe that they can be temporaryily elevated under certain circumstances, such as to fill in for departed coaches for bowl games. Someone with more Compliance knowledge can better inform the masses.

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:55 pm
by VNova
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:19 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:40 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:14 am
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:12 pm
DoesntEvenGoHere wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:02 pm


We almost have to assume whoever we hire as RB coach is going to be our Special Teams Coordinator. Similar to how Holt was. RB coach is an easy position to pair Special Teams Coordinator with all things considered.
One would assume Ware may fill those gaps, but I can’t understand when he was already on staff and still recruiting for us, why the announcement has been mad yet.
He isn’t talking to players. He is representing App as a relationship builder. He isn’t allowed to speak directly to kids.
Would that be current players, recruits, or both?
Both I believe. I know that he isn’t allowed to speak directly with recruits. Only FT coaches are allowed to do that. I also believe that football staff, outside of coaches are limited to non instructional contact with current players. That includes QC coaches. I do believe that they can be temporaryily elevated under certain circumstances, such as to fill in for departed coaches for bowl games. Someone with more Compliance knowledge can better inform the masses.
I didn't know it was this complex. Time to go learn something new.

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:20 pm
by AppSt94
VNova wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:55 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:19 pm
Mjohn1988 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:40 pm
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:14 am
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:12 pm


One would assume Ware may fill those gaps, but I can’t understand when he was already on staff and still recruiting for us, why the announcement has been mad yet.
He isn’t talking to players. He is representing App as a relationship builder. He isn’t allowed to speak directly to kids.
Would that be current players, recruits, or both?
Both I believe. I know that he isn’t allowed to speak directly with recruits. Only FT coaches are allowed to do that. I also believe that football staff, outside of coaches are limited to non instructional contact with current players. That includes QC coaches. I do believe that they can be temporaryily elevated under certain circumstances, such as to fill in for departed coaches for bowl games. Someone with more Compliance knowledge can better inform the masses.
I didn't know it was this complex. Time to go learn something new.
That is what I believe to be correct. My brother’s roommate at App is the offensive QC at Clemson. I believe that I read that condition of the role in the news article on his move.

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:51 pm
by The Rock
So is safe to assume he isn’t going to be a position coach next year? If not, that surprises me

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:57 pm
by AppSt94
The Rock wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:51 pm
So is safe to assume he isn’t going to be a position coach next year? If not, that surprises me
No one is saying that. Run toward the light man.

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:37 pm
by The Rock
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:57 pm
The Rock wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:51 pm
So is safe to assume he isn’t going to be a position coach next year? If not, that surprises me
No one is saying that. Run toward the light man.
Thought that meant you were dying...?

But seriously, it doesn’t make sense that we can announce hires from outside weeks earlier than we could someone internally.
He seems like a good guy with a resume of success at the HS ranks. Seems like a guy you would want recruiting for us.

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:27 pm
by TheMackAttack
The Rock wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:37 pm

Thought that meant you were dying...?

But seriously, it doesn’t make sense that we can announce hires from outside weeks earlier than we could someone internally.
He seems like a good guy with a resume of success at the HS ranks. Seems like a guy you would want recruiting for us.
I don't think it's a done deal that he gets a spot on the coaching staff. Getting somebody to coordinate Special Teams is the first priority, if that person is a RB Coach then it's possible that Ware stays in an administrative role.

Re: Nic !!!

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:39 pm
by DoesntEvenGoHere
AppSt94 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:14 am
He isn’t talking to players. He is representing App as a relationship builder. He isn’t allowed to speak directly to kids.
When you do not have a full staff, you can temporarily bump others into recruiting roles. Ware was bumped to that role and was able to recruit while the staff was incomplete.
The Rock wrote:
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:12 pm
One would assume Ware may fill those gaps, but I can’t understand when he was already on staff and still recruiting for us, why the announcement has been mad yet.
Don't think he'll be a FT coach this coming year. Nothing too say that will technically back that up, just a hunch.