Wisconsin game in jeopardy

[BeauFoster]

Testing problem??? You decide.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/cobb-c ... ours-apart

The same thing happened to a PGA Tour golfer 2 weeks ago. One of the biggest problems with this whole thing is that even the “experts” seem to have no damn clue what is going on, and their story changes day to day/week to week, and it’s leading John Q Public (like me) to have no confidence in them whatsoever.

To your point, the esteemed Dr. Tony Fauci has reversed himself from one week 'til the next to one day 'til the next on quite a few of his pronouncements or predictions going back three or four months. I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't so brash with his proclamations and so dismissive of his complete misses. I realize he's trying to stay scientific with an unpredictable force of nature--but so many times he seems to be making calls with his well-worn Ouija board. I've stopped watching/listening to him. Johns-Hopkins U. researchers have become my go-to Covid-19 source.

Couldn’t agree more, Chuck. There’s too many varying opinions out there, and Fauci is one I have completely given up on.

[T-Dog]

Herd immunity and a soft response has been tried in Sweden and the virus by all accounts has been a certified failure. Also, it's possible to get the virus more than once.

Being OK with young people being more at risk for the virus because of their perceived health is, quite frankly horrifying.

The moment one football player dies or almost dies from COVID-19, fall sports will be done.

[boonetown1]

Testing problem??? You decide.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/cobb-c ... ours-apart

The same thing happened to a PGA Tour golfer 2 weeks ago. One of the biggest problems with this whole thing is that even the “experts” seem to have no damn clue what is going on, and their story changes day to day/week to week, and it’s leading John Q Public (like me) to have no confidence in them whatsoever.

To your point, the esteemed Dr. Tony Fauci has reversed himself from one week 'til the next to one day 'til the next on quite a few of his pronouncements or predictions going back three or four months. I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't so brash with his proclamations and so dismissive of his complete misses. I realize he's trying to stay scientific with an unpredictable force of nature--but so many times he seems to be making calls with his well-worn Ouija board. I've stopped watching/listening to him. Johns-Hopkins U. researchers have become my go-to Covid-19 source.

“him if he wasn't so brash with his proclamations and so dismissive of his complete misses.”......... Sounds like someone else in government

[AppSt94]

Herd immunity and a soft response has been tried in Sweden and the virus by all accounts has been a certified failure. Also, it's possible to get the virus more than once.

Being OK with young people being more at risk for the virus because of their perceived health is, quite frankly horrifying.

The moment one football player dies or almost dies from COVID-19, fall sports will be done.

So what is your answer to the problem? And I’m not talking in terms of football, rather in terms of life continuing in a somewhat normal capacity. Use schools as an example. Opening schools doesn’t really create an inherent risk to kids, but it does to older educators or those with compromised situations. Keeping schools closed to a formal educational setting has the potential to set our kids back for years. Not to mention, increasing the already existing educational gaps among the socioeconomic and racial lines. Back to football, cancelling the season will have, not only devastating effects to universities, but even games with no fans will likely cripple businesses that depend on crowds. Point is, there isn’t a likely outcome from this that isn’t, “frankly horrifying”.

[BUTCH1991]

“him if he wasn't so brash with his proclamations and so dismissive of his complete misses.”......... Sounds like someone else in government

Actually, sounds like everyone else in government!

[T-Dog]

[T-Dog]

So what is your answer to the problem? And I’m not talking in terms of football, rather in terms of life continuing in a somewhat normal capacity. Use schools as an example. Opening schools doesn’t really create an inherent risk to kids, but it does to older educators or those with compromised situations. Keeping schools closed to a formal educational setting has the potential to set our kids back for years. Not to mention, increasing the already existing educational gaps among the socioeconomic and racial lines. Back to football, cancelling the season will have, not only devastating effects to universities, but even games with no fans will likely cripple businesses that depend on crowds. Point is, there isn’t a likely outcome from this that isn’t, “frankly horrifying”.

I'll go with the answers that prioritize health and wellbeing over business and profits, just to keep it simple.

[AppSt94]

So what is your answer to the problem? And I’m not talking in terms of football, rather in terms of life continuing in a somewhat normal capacity. Use schools as an example. Opening schools doesn’t really create an inherent risk to kids, but it does to older educators or those with compromised situations. Keeping schools closed to a formal educational setting has the potential to set our kids back for years. Not to mention, increasing the already existing educational gaps among the socioeconomic and racial lines. Back to football, cancelling the season will have, not only devastating effects to universities, but even games with no fans will likely cripple businesses that depend on crowds. Point is, there isn’t a likely outcome from this that isn’t, “frankly horrifying”.

I'll go with the answers that prioritize health and wellbeing over business and profits, just to keep it simple.

Fair enough. I don’t think any of us are taking a, “if he dies, he dies approach.” Just pointing out the underlying affects of either scenario.

[BeauFoster]

So what is your answer to the problem? And I’m not talking in terms of football, rather in terms of life continuing in a somewhat normal capacity. Use schools as an example. Opening schools doesn’t really create an inherent risk to kids, but it does to older educators or those with compromised situations. Keeping schools closed to a formal educational setting has the potential to set our kids back for years. Not to mention, increasing the already existing educational gaps among the socioeconomic and racial lines. Back to football, cancelling the season will have, not only devastating effects to universities, but even games with no fans will likely cripple businesses that depend on crowds. Point is, there isn’t a likely outcome from this that isn’t, “frankly horrifying”.

I'll go with the answers that prioritize health and wellbeing over business and profits, just to keep it simple.

That’s a cop out answer at this point, because every bit of it is completely intertwined. It’s not necessarily prioritizing business and profits when you look at it from a “being able to provide for your family and provide an education to children” perspective. Not to mention the increased rates of suicide and domestic violence that have spiked over the last 4 months.

This isn’t a singular issue, it is the entirety of society.

[bigdaddyg]

Big 10 conference games only. We are gonna lose our ass.

[Yosef10]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... ports-fall

[Yosef10]

Herd immunity and a soft response has been tried in Sweden and the virus by all accounts has been a certified failure. Also, it's possible to get the virus more than once.

Being OK with young people being more at risk for the virus because of their perceived health is, quite frankly horrifying.

The moment one football player dies or almost dies from COVID-19, fall sports will be done.

So what is your answer to the problem? And I’m not talking in terms of football, rather in terms of life continuing in a somewhat normal capacity. Use schools as an example. Opening schools doesn’t really create an inherent risk to kids, but it does to older educators or those with compromised situations. Keeping schools closed to a formal educational setting has the potential to set our kids back for years. Not to mention, increasing the already existing educational gaps among the socioeconomic and racial lines. Back to football, cancelling the season will have, not only devastating effects to universities, but even games with no fans will likely cripple businesses that depend on crowds. Point is, there isn’t a likely outcome from this that isn’t, “frankly horrifying”.

There were answers, other countries will be having fans in stands soon. We will not. I’ll let you draw your own conclusions as to why not. One hint: leadership from the top.

[AppinVA]

If someone can get it multiple times, a vaccine will do little good. There comes a time when we are going to have to suck it up and deal.

[NashvilleNeer]

Testing problem??? You decide.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/cobb-c ... ours-apart

The same thing happened to a PGA Tour golfer 2 weeks ago. One of the biggest problems with this whole thing is that even the “experts” seem to have no damn clue what is going on, and their story changes day to day/week to week, and it’s leading John Q Public (like me) to have no confidence in them whatsoever.

To your point, the esteemed Dr. Tony Fauci has reversed himself from one week 'til the next to one day 'til the next on quite a few of his pronouncements or predictions going back three or four months. I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't so brash with his proclamations and so dismissive of his complete misses. I realize he's trying to stay scientific with an unpredictable force of nature--but so many times he seems to be making calls with his well-worn Ouija board. I've stopped watching/listening to him. Johns-Hopkins U. researchers have become my go-to Covid-19 source.

Couldn’t agree more, Chuck. There’s too many varying opinions out there, and Fauci is one I have completely given up on.

HA you think Fauci is the problem?

[BeauFoster]

Testing problem??? You decide.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/cobb-c ... ours-apart

The same thing happened to a PGA Tour golfer 2 weeks ago. One of the biggest problems with this whole thing is that even the “experts” seem to have no damn clue what is going on, and their story changes day to day/week to week, and it’s leading John Q Public (like me) to have no confidence in them whatsoever.

To your point, the esteemed Dr. Tony Fauci has reversed himself from one week 'til the next to one day 'til the next on quite a few of his pronouncements or predictions going back three or four months. I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't so brash with his proclamations and so dismissive of his complete misses. I realize he's trying to stay scientific with an unpredictable force of nature--but so many times he seems to be making calls with his well-worn Ouija board. I've stopped watching/listening to him. Johns-Hopkins U. researchers have become my go-to Covid-19 source.

Couldn’t agree more, Chuck. There’s too many varying opinions out there, and Fauci is one I have completely given up on.

HA you think Fauci is the problem?

I don’t recall saying he is THE problem, but I don’t have a lot of trust in what he says at this point.

[ArmantiWaterSafety]

Do you guys remember the days when you could go to a university sports forum, open up a thread titled something about football, and read about football? That was fun.

[EastHallApp]

Big 10 conference games only. We are gonna lose our ass.

Bad for us to be sure, but many others will be in the same boat. Chris Vannini from The Athletic just mentioned in particular how much this will hammer the MAC financially; most of those teams schedule three money games, many against the B1G.

Also there's no way the B1G cancels conference games and everyone else goes on as normal. If they're going to conference-only, I feel pretty safe in saying everyone else will too.

Of course assuming those conference games will happen is a pretty big leap too...

[NashvilleNeer]

The same thing happened to a PGA Tour golfer 2 weeks ago. One of the biggest problems with this whole thing is that even the “experts” seem to have no damn clue what is going on, and their story changes day to day/week to week, and it’s leading John Q Public (like me) to have no confidence in them whatsoever.

To your point, the esteemed Dr. Tony Fauci has reversed himself from one week 'til the next to one day 'til the next on quite a few of his pronouncements or predictions going back three or four months. I'd feel sorry for him if he wasn't so brash with his proclamations and so dismissive of his complete misses. I realize he's trying to stay scientific with an unpredictable force of nature--but so many times he seems to be making calls with his well-worn Ouija board. I've stopped watching/listening to him. Johns-Hopkins U. researchers have become my go-to Covid-19 source.

Couldn’t agree more, Chuck. There’s too many varying opinions out there, and Fauci is one I have completely given up on.

HA you think Fauci is the problem?

I don’t recall saying he is THE problem, but I don’t have a lot of trust in what he says at this point.

He has more experience studying these matters than the rest of the administration, so maybe let's go with what he says. There's reasons why we're in this mess and it's not because of him.

[EastHallApp]

Herd immunity and a soft response has been tried in Sweden and the virus by all accounts has been a certified failure. Also, it's possible to get the virus more than once.

Being OK with young people being more at risk for the virus because of their perceived health is, quite frankly horrifying.

The moment one football player dies or almost dies from COVID-19, fall sports will be done.

So what is your answer to the problem? And I’m not talking in terms of football, rather in terms of life continuing in a somewhat normal capacity. Use schools as an example. Opening schools doesn’t really create an inherent risk to kids, but it does to older educators or those with compromised situations. Keeping schools closed to a formal educational setting has the potential to set our kids back for years. Not to mention, increasing the already existing educational gaps among the socioeconomic and racial lines. Back to football, cancelling the season will have, not only devastating effects to universities, but even games with no fans will likely cripple businesses that depend on crowds. Point is, there isn’t a likely outcome from this that isn’t, “frankly horrifying”.

There were answers, other countries will be having fans in stands soon. We will not. I’ll let you draw your own conclusions as to why not. One hint: leadership from the top.

This is, frankly, inarguable. A lot of us try to talk about this without "getting political," but there's only so many ways to say it euphamistically.

This is a problem that absolutely requires a competent, focused, coordinated national response, and the US hasn't had one at any point.

[AtlAppMan]

Some people when they get old, my Dad is 87 for example, they say, to heck with it, I am going to live how I want to, eat what I want to, etc. If that kills me then so be it I am going to live as I want and go out happy. He decides what risk is appropriate for his situation. The others that don't want to live like this can shelter at home and should, if they feel unsafe for whatever reason. This is actually the way it has been forever. The risk for anyone under 70 is extremely minimal with the exception of some specific individuals with pre-existing conditions.